I think Scalley will be given 3-4 years. That puts it 4-5 years out for us.

Oct 14, 2024
2:54:36pm

runnincoug Intervention Needed

By that point when they might make a run at Jay Hill, we should really know what Kalani can do in the Big12 and whether he needs to be encouraged to move on or not.

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Dark days ahead for Utah football. Probably

Jdoc

Oct 14, 1:23pm

RE: Dark days ahead for Utah football. Probably

LaVellIfIKnow

Oct 14, 1:24pm

RE: Dark days ahead for Utah football. Probably

Brandoblueblood

Oct 14, 1:25pm

If you guys really try to hang on to Rising after this year

2FarGone

Oct 14, 1:29pm

I hope we just go with Wilson. Even so, I

Jdoc

Oct 14, 1:30pm

Garff, Eccles and Huntsman money drying up already?

John Doe

Oct 14, 1:42pm

Do you not have any hope that Morgan Scalley will continue to be successful?

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 14, 2:06pm

I think Morgan is a good coach. Yet to be seen if he will be a good head coach.

Jdoc

Oct 14, 2:21pm

I worry that they take a hard run at Jay Hill if Scalley doesn't work out year 1

YankeeCoug

Oct 14, 2:33pm

I think Scalley will be given 3-4 years. That puts it 4-5 years out for us.

runnincoug

Oct 14, 2:54pm

I really hope you are right...

YankeeCoug

Oct 14, 3:35pm

Scalleywag has a minimum of 3yrs

Das_Countach

Oct 14, 3:52pm

Especially because he'll do well enough to give them continual hope that true

runnincoug

Oct 14, 4:23pm

My best to you. Fandom is hard. You're a good dude.

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

Oct 14, 2:53pm

Likewise to @Jdoc.

APowerfulY

Oct 14, 6:36pm

I hope he (and every other yewt) goes to hel* and never posts on here again.

indocoug

Oct 14, 9:35pm

He and a number of other Utes are solid contributors and are more than welcome

oxcoug

Oct 15, 3:27am

If they hang on to Rising they’ll keep falling. Stick with Wilson.

ImuaKahuku

Oct 14, 7:05pm

Maybe, we'll see. I do think the whole Cam Rising thing has been handled

kimdaddy35

Oct 14, 1:29pm

There will be a drop off when Kyle retires. I think that will happen at the end

Jdoc

Oct 14, 1:33pm

You always have women's gymnastics

Greg4BYU

Oct 14, 4:21pm

I don’t think so. Change is good for a program. It just seems like the whole

Lynk

Oct 14, 7:31pm

He’s looking at things through the eyes of someone whose basketball team went

Big Daddy D

Oct 14, 8:20pm

One big problem is the portal

Blue Heart

Oct 14, 10:22pm

I think Scalley could actually rejuvenate the program a bit. I think he will be

allaboutthegainz

Oct 14, 1:32pm

I think Morgan is a good coach and will do fine, but there will be a drop of in

Jdoc

Oct 14, 1:34pm

Why do you think that?

The 435

Oct 14, 2:58pm

Because replacing a legend without drop off is nearly impossible. See LaVell

Big Daddy D

Oct 14, 8:21pm

Oh I meant why does he think this is Whit’s last year

The 435

Oct 14, 8:27pm

I think how well they do hiring Whitt's successor will be massive

Still Blue

Oct 14, 1:32pm

RE: Dark days ahead for Utah football. Probably

ProvoY

Oct 14, 1:33pm

Well, at least you have the B1G invite in your pocket

Mikey

Oct 14, 1:33pm

Well, I never remotely believed that. It is comical that so many

Jdoc

Oct 14, 1:35pm

should win the next 2 with or without a QB, 6-2?? could be a bit worse, like

franklyvulgar

Oct 14, 1:34pm

Should win the next too. The last 4 will be pretty tough. 2-2 would be a good

Jdoc

Oct 14, 1:36pm

i think you finish with 3 or 4 total losses, not bad considering not having a QB

franklyvulgar

Oct 14, 1:42pm

Four losses including the bowl loss is the gold standard for Utah football

Greg4BYU

Oct 14, 4:23pm

I think they need to turn the page for good on Rising. Wilson is very talented

rivercitycoug

Oct 14, 1:34pm

Wilson keep y’all relevant for awhile. He looks to be a pretty good college QB

Squirt

Oct 14, 1:38pm

Unless he decides to jump off the sinking pirate ship and go elsewhere

WDaddy

Oct 14, 1:57pm

Utah enjoyed 11 years of being in a power conference over us...

Coug

Oct 14, 1:42pm

everything goes in waves. Utah is ending the best football run in their history

Cougarclaw

Oct 14, 1:52pm

I appreciate a Ute with open-minded takes on his program. My thoughts ...

runnincoug

Oct 14, 1:55pm

I agree with all of your points.

Jdoc

Oct 14, 2:01pm

I'm not sure BYU will be a whole lot better TBH, so rivalry games will be epic.

runnincoug

Oct 14, 2:07pm

Yes. Rivalry games should be fun, but I wouldn't be surprised if BYU starts to

Jdoc

Oct 14, 2:22pm

RE: Dark days ahead for Utah football. Probably

CougfromtheSouth

Oct 14, 1:59pm

Nah...BYU fans have been saying this since 2004. Utah will be fine.

TFL

Oct 14, 2:01pm

Utah had a clear financial and recruiting advantage for over a decade, and

ldssdl

Oct 14, 2:11pm

Like I said, every year for the past 20 years, including Utah's invite to the Pac-12, BYU fans

TFL

Oct 14, 2:18pm

I wasn't predicting a demise of the Utah program in any of those years.

ldssdl

Oct 14, 2:33pm

Yeah none of us really were but it's convenient for utes to misremember we were.

Brandoblueblood

Oct 14, 4:28pm

Because clearly BYU cannot or will not recruit non LDS athletes.

WillsPitStop

Oct 14, 3:36pm

Hasn't BYU done better now with the TP and the Big 12? It's more the naive assumption

TFL

Oct 14, 3:47pm

QB recruiting is considered a strength at Utah? I’ll give you TE, but given your

ldssdl

Oct 14, 4:34pm

Compare Utah recruiting at QB 10 years ago or 5 years ago, to the last 3-4

TFL

Oct 14, 5:35pm

I guess if all you care about is recruiting stars, then sure.

ldssdl

Oct 14, 9:34pm

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TFL

Oct 14, 10:46pm

Typical yewt fan, I literally didn’t say any of those things.

ldssdl

Oct 15, 12:35pm

To answer your question, BYU has a great thing going. Hopefully they continue to win and get to the CCG

TFL

Oct 15, 12:55pm

Like our starting and backup QBs

YOHONOMOTO

Oct 14, 6:40pm

Hahahahaha I love reading these messages from TFL... never give up TFL, don't be like the Utah basketball fans!

Atmospheric_Cougar

Oct 14, 4:40pm

I agree that they’ll be fine. But I don’t think they will differentiate themselves from any of the other Big 12 teams,

BYU Tar Heel

Oct 14, 7:51pm

Wow, I appreciate this honest opinion. Causes me to want to say: I hope things

Captain Barnacles

Oct 14, 2:09pm

I think each team is better when the other is at least decent

YankeeCoug

Oct 14, 2:35pm

seriously... the biggest problem BYU fans have with Utah is the obnoxious fans.

runnincoug

Oct 14, 2:56pm

Wrong. Utah sucks and I want them to suck more. But Jdoc is one of the good guys

Big Daddy D

Oct 14, 8:27pm

Don't worry Utah most teams have a hard time in 1st year of a power conference

baldcoug74

Oct 14, 2:20pm

RE: Dark days ahead for Utah football. Probably

ninja math

Oct 14, 2:31pm

They will still be a pretty good football team. I wouldn't count them out by any

conetah

Oct 14, 2:47pm

Embrace the light, Jdoc. Convert to BYU fandom.

Brandoblueblood

Oct 14, 2:47pm

This really is the best solution

SV72 Sale

Oct 14, 3:20pm

I think we might be writing off Utah a bit too soon.

SouthernCoug

Oct 14, 2:54pm

Agree ... too soon

ElmerAlbert

Oct 14, 4:05pm

Who is writing them off? But Ute fans saying Utah will never dip and go through tough years is the delusional viewpoint.

Atmospheric_Cougar

Oct 14, 4:42pm

Nope. Dance on their grave.

Brandoblueblood

Oct 14, 10:00pm

eyeroll for the yahtzee

Spiff

Oct 14, 3:08pm

I think its overstated. Utah will be fine. Maybe not great but...

DazeofBlue

Oct 14, 4:03pm

I appreciate your objective thoughts. Three reasons things may be different now:

seacougar

Oct 14, 4:20pm

They are a QB away from being a good team

deljdc

Oct 14, 4:20pm

I think they will do fine. They will never be as big as their X.com fans say they will be, but will always compete.

AltTabbins

Oct 14, 4:25pm

Admitting that about many in your fanbase earns a lot of good will.

LateToTheGame

Oct 14, 4:32pm

good luck with that (on both sides)

franklyvulgar

Oct 14, 4:51pm

So you are saying they went with some nice light blocking curtains for RES then?

Pangare

Oct 14, 4:39pm

You are way too logical. LOL

SeattleBYUfan

Oct 14, 4:54pm

Amen!

Atmospheric_Cougar

Oct 14, 4:58pm

Hang in there, Jdoc! One day, another BYU great will coach at Utah and raise them from the ashes!

Boomcannon

Oct 14, 6:08pm

There’s a chance, but it’s not like it’s destined. There’s also a chance Scalley

uteman13

Oct 14, 7:53pm

Good post JDOC. I’d love for this to go back to a spirited rivalry without all of the cultural insults.

BYU Tar Heel

Oct 14, 7:55pm

Will never get that toothpaste back in the tube bro.

Big Daddy D

Oct 14, 8:30pm

Nah, y'all will be fine once you get into the Big 10.

dfudge

Oct 14, 8:22pm

Don’t lost hope just yet. Yewtah always seems to find a way to fall up

Yucaterco

Oct 14, 8:45pm

What I honestly wish

VenomFarmer

Oct 14, 11:52pm

I respect Jdoc and few other Ute posters, but I want the U to suck so bad. I want it for all the crap they have done...

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