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May 29, 2024
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Why did BYU NIL explode as soon as Young was named coach?

SoValleyCOUG

May 28, 10:26pm

I’ve had the same questions. Excited to hear some CB wisdom on this.

Soy Celeste

May 28, 10:36pm

My theory (no inside info)

byujdmba

May 28, 10:43pm

Or people with money didn’t want to donate to NIL while Pope was coach?

JohnnyC

May 28, 10:48pm

This is my guess. Pope was somewhat abrasive on top of not being a BYU guy

tacallaway

May 28, 11:41pm

Pope and Smith were besties. Don’t overthink this.

Cougarbib

May 29, 12:25am

Yeah, they were neighbors

icecougar

May 29, 1:07am

Not just neighbors. The Smith family went to Rupp Arena for Pope's introduction.

dYrtbYkerYder

May 29, 8:43am

KY isn’t a BYU guy and will probably also bolt when given the right chance-

Dwide_Schrude

May 29, 8:06am

Dude had an NBA job. He chose BYU.

cougaman

May 29, 8:08am

This hasn’t been proven. He interviewed for multiple, but didn’t have an offer

Dwide_Schrude

May 29, 8:11am

I’ll take Ryan Smiths word when he says he would have an NBA coaching job.

cougaman

May 29, 8:18am

Okay. That doesn’t mean he had an offer on the table.

Dwide_Schrude

May 29, 8:23am

Essentially it’s the same thing. He knew he could have been an NBA coach, but

cougaman

May 29, 9:22am

He was literally an assistant for the Phoenix suns, hence had an NBA job. I think what you're arguing is whether he

Bob Vance

May 29, 10:18am

KY literally said when asked about choosing BYU, "the Nets were waiting to hear back from him"

slatecoug

May 29, 12:15pm

KY has said that a big part of the decision is his family

Remigius

May 29, 8:17am

I agree with this, but at the same time, talk is cheap.

Dwide_Schrude

May 29, 8:22am

Unlike Pope or Pope's wife, KY's wife attended BYU, and KY spent a little time on BYU campus in the past

Bob Vance

May 29, 10:20am

More importantly, Pope left for dream job at his Alma mater. That is not an

Cougarbib

May 29, 11:38am

I suppose he may have been lying when he said it...

Eddie

May 29, 10:42am

I don't see KY bolting anytime soon because I imagine BYU will be a better fit for his family for the time being but...

greatbam

May 29, 2:36pm

I don’t think he signs a 7 year deal if he’s thinking about bolting at the first

Chase05

May 29, 11:25am

Seems obvious he took the job in part because his wife wants to be here

I'mBatman

May 29, 12:32pm

I disagree with this

palangi

May 29, 8:35am

Sounds like a BYU fan theory based only on hurt feelings from Pope leaving

Tricky

May 29, 12:51pm

My theory is that just like our kids get teased at school for being BYU fans, so we’re Ryan Smith’s. So he decided to

Blue2thebone

May 28, 11:13pm

RE: My theory is that just like our kids get teased at school for being BYU

bvp3us

May 29, 1:35am

There are people with money, and then there are people like Ryan Smith.

Diablo and Doc

May 29, 10:07am

That’s mine too. It was like “oh crap… we can’t take a step back without pope”

ballen

May 28, 11:58pm

I wouldn’t say freaking out. Definitely a determination to move forward though

palangi

May 29, 8:39am

I have a LITTLE inside info (I know someone who knows someone). Ryan Smith and

CougarScrub

May 29, 9:31am

Maybe KY's vision is more persuasive or seems more invested?

Dr T-bone

May 28, 10:44pm

I'm thinking this too. Young can talk with credibilty about getting kids to NBA

SoValleyCOUG

May 28, 11:15pm

Because Ryan Smith and Danny Ainge believe in KY

Yukon

May 28, 10:45pm

Now they need to believe in a BYU football coach.

JohnnyC

May 28, 10:49pm

Great, now go and get Kalani to take a new job.🍎 😉

brazilcoug

May 28, 10:50pm

I’ll start working on his Resume ASAP!

JohnnyC

May 28, 10:53pm

That’s the point they know Kalani

Blue2thebone

May 28, 11:14pm

Steve Young Ty Detmer chad Lewis why don’t they get football going

44C

May 29, 8:09am

I think it took the RBC some time to hit its stride not only with activating

Junior Deputy

May 28, 10:48pm

This might be the next phase of NIL growth for BYU...

icecougar

May 29, 1:10am

This is the correct answer.

Adrielle

May 29, 8:17am

Pope talked about collective/NIL being in a good place at the end of the season

cougfan03

May 28, 10:49pm

We did not need any “good additions” if Pope stayed. He had 13 guys already

Cougarbib

May 29, 12:34am

Didn't BYU fork out a ton for Hill as DC?

SUAVO

May 28, 10:49pm

Half a ton.

Cougarbib

May 29, 12:35am

BYU wants to play by the rules, a lot has been formally changed in the last year

kosmokramer

May 28, 10:49pm

Shane Reese

Remigius

May 28, 11:00pm

Hope so.

SoValleyCOUG

May 28, 11:16pm

Very underrated reason why imo

icecougar

May 29, 1:27am

Well - except as recently as yesterday in an interview, Coach Young reminded us

Cougarbib

May 29, 1:38am

Maybe the bigger question: which member of the

Hazzard

May 29, 11:42am

We finally have a Pres who gets it. Been a long time coming. Past few, terrible

fan32

May 29, 8:06am

I wouldn't go as far as to say "terrible" in their results...just not "optimal."

BYUHgrad

May 29, 9:46am

Worthen was fine. Cecil was terrible, toed the line of intentional sabotage

tacallaway

May 29, 10:10am

*toed the line

CougarScrub

May 29, 11:05am

Oof. Good catch, that's a CBism on my part.

tacallaway

May 29, 11:10am

Toad is another option.

Cougarbib

May 29, 11:40am

Last season was an eye opener re possibilities of Big 12 basketball. And

Cougarbib

May 29, 12:24am

My guess is it was part of the pitch from Smith/Ainge to KY. You come coach, and

Bluedarts

May 29, 12:47am

NIL has also changed since football season with the anyone can transfer anytime.

Michicoug

May 29, 5:01am

I think people are posting interesting theories, but in the end I think NIL was

cougarfan84

May 29, 7:39am

Don’t forget that NIL is a brand new thing. It wasn’t legal to pay players till

nitestal

May 29, 9:29am

FEAR

BYU Grounds

May 29, 10:43am

BYU Football will always have a hard time competing at the highest level.

Cthack1

May 29, 11:32am

It is easier to concentrate $$$ among 5 bb starters than ~24 fb starters. More

BrotherOfTheYear

May 29, 11:38am

A lot of factors. But a big one is that KY wouldn't take the job without

DirtyWater

May 29, 1:59pm

I really think it’s the flywheel concept.

Brighams

May 29, 2:54pm

Pope was very disliked by many donors.

Pride

May 29, 3:07pm

Source?

nitestal

May 29, 8:33pm

My friend is one of those boosters;)

Pride

May 30, 12:03am

Interesting! Any insight into what caused the rift?

nitestal

May 30, 7:06am

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garbonzuke

May 31, 11:55am

S&P has hit highs and donors ready to donate dividends

MajorZeus

May 31, 1:08pm

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