Guardian article. EV ecological disaster

May 3, 2024
5:35:07pm

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Child labour, toxic leaks: the price we could pay for a greener future

Our mission to create cleaner living using natural resources could itself cause widespread environmental harm, scientists now warn

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/03/child-labour-toxic-leaks-the-price-we-could-pay-for-a-greener-future

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I don't even know where to start with this post...

TheLost Parody account

5/3/24 4:04pm

Is that weight with the battery charged, or uncharged?

Ragnar Danneskjold

5/3/24 4:07pm

charged.. its so light when the battery is down to 30% its basicly unsafe.

TheLost

5/3/24 4:08pm

But on a more serious note, most EV drivers around here like to test their 0-60 at each red light. I'm sure that is

Ragnar Danneskjold

5/3/24 4:11pm

That only leaves the $$ tires on the road.

TheLost

5/3/24 4:25pm

RE: That only leaves the $$ tires on the road.

Ragnar Danneskjold

5/3/24 4:47pm

Someone sent up the bat signal

BYUMizzou

5/3/24 4:07pm

This didn't need a new thread.

Superkid

5/3/24 4:11pm

He responded to EVERY SINGLE POST in the linked thread and then sat looking at

BYUMizzou

5/3/24 4:15pm

Wait.. is there a limit?

TheLost

5/3/24 4:25pm

Only for those with self-awarenes.

whirl

5/3/24 5:10pm

That 10 years thing is conjecture right? Do we have any real world evidence of

NC CougarBear

5/3/24 4:13pm

I can believe it on the early EVs. Old Nissan Leafs are not worth the cost of a replacement battery pack.

John Doe

5/3/24 4:21pm

My 2016 Nissan Leaf is still going strong. Battery has degraded some, sure.

CPAcoug87

5/3/24 4:25pm

Cost of EV battery replacement shortens their life significantly. Hazardous

septicpumper

5/4/24 2:10pm

I agree on cars. The arguments I saw were specific to long-haul semi trucks. No idea whether they are valid or not.

John Doe

5/3/24 4:15pm

Why call out the whole post and only address one of the items listed?

Jericho

5/3/24 4:17pm

If you give me a short list of "facts" and one is suspect and I have knowledge

NC CougarBear

5/3/24 4:22pm

Because nobody really wants facts on CB...

TheLost

5/3/24 4:44pm

Save the world, rebuild a 50-year old classic car.

Division Bell

5/3/24 4:18pm

All or nothing reasoning isn’t reasonable (on either side of this issue)

RWaters

5/3/24 4:18pm

The BMW looks 1000% better.

Swag Kazekage

5/3/24 4:36pm

Which is especially funny because it's the ugliest M3 ever made.

Superkid

5/3/24 4:42pm

Pig snout grill, nuff said.

OnEMoReTrY

5/3/24 5:13pm

Why isn’t the Model 3 compared to something actually similar?

MarylandFan

5/3/24 5:08pm

WSJ: EVs emit WAY more particles

septicpumper

5/3/24 5:31pm

Guardian article. EV ecological disaster

septicpumper

5/3/24 5:35pm

EVs cause more than twice the road damage

septicpumper

5/3/24 5:37pm

Precisely why we need a universal weight tax. Unfortunately neither side seems

Yiowa

5/3/24 5:40pm

Fine but we need to recognize the total environmental impact of EVs includes

septicpumper

5/3/24 6:12pm

I agree, and that also applies to the size and weight of most trucks.

Yiowa

5/3/24 7:40pm

Now find a study from the US... because a Toyota Sienna Curb Weight = 4,610 lb.. Model Y Curb Weight = 4,398 lb

TheLost

5/4/24 9:31am

EVs weigh more than gas and that causes more road damage (ie environmental neg)

septicpumper

5/4/24 1:34pm

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