He was great. Very nice. We spoke for about 15 min and I came away liking a man I didn’t think much of before.

He gave a great talk at the service. Something he obviously prepared and gave significant thought. Not something he just got up and winged it.

There is a maturation that happens over 2 years. Certainly not great for the lack of playing those kids miss out on though. But most people don’t understand it. So I give him a pass.