No. Not at all. There's no logical reason to think Utah's MBB will be anything more than mediocre. FB

Nov 29, 2023
5:31:44pm

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different because Utah has been more consistent than most B12 programs, has out recruited them, has more stable coaching and will return as much talent next year as anyone.

How that translates to struggling in the Big 12 is a mystery to me.

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Time

Accurate.

CPAcoug87

11/29/23 2:58pm

In before UtahfootballGM thumbs down

BYUheaven

11/29/23 3:01pm

Keeping you on your toes...he went with eyeroll this time

TaysomJimmerEraCoug

11/29/23 4:54pm

Meh. The picture would better depict Utes

CasualFan

11/29/23 3:02pm

Texas was the big fish in the small pond. Utah is now one

TFL

11/29/23 3:13pm

Big 12 fans expect Utah who has had P5 money for over a decade to perform the

VACougMD

11/29/23 3:16pm

Yes, that's the problem they have with the Utah base. The narrative that the Pac 12

TFL

11/29/23 3:25pm

Utah fans continue to conflate conference inclusion with talent.

Madam Pattirini

11/29/23 3:48pm

Both P12 and B12 inclusions have several things in common though

TFL

11/29/23 4:20pm

Why don't you go police your own fans and their terrible realignment opinions?

CPAcoug87

11/29/23 4:35pm

Well said. I agree.

TFL

11/29/23 5:11pm

And most of us knew B12 was Utahs floor.

kiyoshige

11/29/23 6:16pm

Yes, but both come from a small population state shared by another P5

TFL

11/29/23 10:59pm

Your first point was plenty for TFL to try to comprehend. He should answer it.

Atmospheric_Cougar

11/29/23 10:19pm

It works both ways - every Utah loss will be nice

jetycns

11/29/23 3:54pm

Agreed. That adds to the fun on both sides and having someone play the role as conf villain.

TFL

11/29/23 4:59pm

Not “villain, but…

Robbinoburrito

11/29/23 5:06pm

Utah barely came away with a win against a very pitiful Baylor team.

Lefty24

11/29/23 5:10pm

A win is a win.

Big-Q

11/29/23 7:21pm

The pac 12 accd to Sagarin is exactly the same conference in ‘23 it has been

BYU '80

11/29/23 8:46pm

Stop playing the victim card. No big12 fans think Utah will perform like the 4

BYUheaven

11/29/23 3:26pm

No...just the BYU fans and online twitter Big 12 guys think that. That's what's so ironic

TFL

11/29/23 3:37pm

BYU fans and Twitter are only ones exposed to Utah fans' opinions. . .

Madam Pattirini

11/29/23 3:50pm

Not really. When Utah got invited, no one was surprised but this small, awkward group. That group lost any validity

TFL

11/29/23 4:22pm

Oh, you mean the small group of BOT and Administrators at BYU that wanted the Utes in the Big 12

coot20

11/29/23 4:44pm

Or b12 fans see Utah for what they are and utahs own prez clearly doesn’t

BYU '80

11/29/23 8:49pm

Big12 fans have varying opinions on how Utah will perform. But they all agree

bluesloth

11/29/23 3:42pm

Nah.. just the twitter guys who spent the summer splaining to Utah fans that they'd get left out.

TFL

11/29/23 3:51pm

RE: Nah.. just the twitter guys who spent the summer splaining to Utah fans that

Millhouse

11/29/23 4:00pm

For one, you won’t have to take on TX and OU

kiyoshige

11/29/23 6:21pm

Good point. TX killed Utah in 2019. Downside to the whole BYU Indy argument

TFL

11/29/23 6:30pm

I think the vocal minority of CB Utah haters

kiyoshige

11/29/23 8:05pm

That’s why they lost for three years in a horrid p12. Upward trajectory

BYU '80

11/29/23 8:53pm

Once upon a time the beat Alabama in a bowl game as a G5

kiyoshige

11/29/23 9:55pm

Then if what you say is true they should have taken the p12 by storm. They didn’

BYU '80

11/29/23 10:12pm

You wouldn’t have even won the south this year and it stunk

BYU '80

11/29/23 8:52pm

That's the whole point though. Utah is 22-4 the last 5 full seasons vs. the South. 4-1 this year despite

TFL

11/30/23 5:17pm

RE: Texas was the big fish in the small pond. Utah is now one

Longseason

11/29/23 3:56pm

Literally proving the X-post accurate. Never change Ute homers living on CB. LOL

Atmospheric_Cougar

11/29/23 4:09pm

Wow. If Utah performs much better than BYU next season, I will be surprised. 😲

Robbinoburrito

11/29/23 4:42pm

Are you as optimistic in basketball and other sports? Don't be

CLCougar

11/29/23 4:46pm

No. Not at all. There's no logical reason to think Utah's MBB will be anything more than mediocre. FB

TFL

11/29/23 5:31pm

Getting worked by one of the other teams joining

CasualFan

11/29/23 5:40pm

So...an injury plagued Utah in a down year is 3-1 vs. new Big 12 — and that means they'll struggle

TFL

11/29/23 6:02pm

Nice strawman argument. G5/Indy -> P5 is not the same as P5 -> P5

TaysomJimmerEraCoug

11/29/23 4:55pm

You get it. It's a silly argument. That's why it's so fun. Like when they all claimed Utah was out of B12

TFL

11/29/23 11:06pm

Texas is a Blueblood program & top 2-3 for fanbase size/financial value

BamaCoug

11/29/23 6:00pm

Utah is a top 40 - 60 program from a small populous state with no history in CFB and G5 origins

TFL

11/30/23 1:52pm

Let me sum it more simply. Ute fans online are viewed as arrogant jerks

Atmospheric_Cougar

11/30/23 10:36pm

Perennial 4 loss team. Decent, not great. Will compete in B12. Might win once

niqmadu

11/30/23 9:02am

The Big 12 will be fun. With Rising coming back along with what looks like a terrific team

TFL

11/30/23 6:09pm

Ever the optimist

niqmadu

11/30/23 6:48pm

Utah fans coming into the Big12

kccougar

11/29/23 3:18pm

RE: Accurate.

MrTootles

11/29/23 6:07pm

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