Well said. I agree.

Nov 29, 2023
5:11:39pm

TFL Political Junky

Well said. I agree.

I've been on the BYU as a Big 12 lock for a long time. Even when the Big 12 held their dog and pony show, I thought BYU's only weakness was the lack of a strong 2nd candidate (12th school).

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Accurate.

CPAcoug87

11/29/23 2:58pm

In before UtahfootballGM thumbs down

BYUheaven

11/29/23 3:01pm

Keeping you on your toes...he went with eyeroll this time

TaysomJimmerEraCoug

11/29/23 4:54pm

Meh. The picture would better depict Utes

CasualFan

11/29/23 3:02pm

Texas was the big fish in the small pond. Utah is now one

TFL

11/29/23 3:13pm

Big 12 fans expect Utah who has had P5 money for over a decade to perform the

VACougMD

11/29/23 3:16pm

Yes, that's the problem they have with the Utah base. The narrative that the Pac 12

TFL

11/29/23 3:25pm

Utah fans continue to conflate conference inclusion with talent.

Madam Pattirini

11/29/23 3:48pm

Both P12 and B12 inclusions have several things in common though

TFL

11/29/23 4:20pm

Why don't you go police your own fans and their terrible realignment opinions?

CPAcoug87

11/29/23 4:35pm

Well said. I agree.

TFL

11/29/23 5:11pm

And most of us knew B12 was Utahs floor.

kiyoshige

11/29/23 6:16pm

Yes, but both come from a small population state shared by another P5

TFL

11/29/23 10:59pm

Your first point was plenty for TFL to try to comprehend. He should answer it.

Atmospheric_Cougar

11/29/23 10:19pm

It works both ways - every Utah loss will be nice

jetycns

11/29/23 3:54pm

Agreed. That adds to the fun on both sides and having someone play the role as conf villain.

TFL

11/29/23 4:59pm

Not “villain, but…

Robbinoburrito

11/29/23 5:06pm

Utah barely came away with a win against a very pitiful Baylor team.

Lefty24

11/29/23 5:10pm

A win is a win.

Big-Q

11/29/23 7:21pm

The pac 12 accd to Sagarin is exactly the same conference in ‘23 it has been

BYU '80

11/29/23 8:46pm

Stop playing the victim card. No big12 fans think Utah will perform like the 4

BYUheaven

11/29/23 3:26pm

No...just the BYU fans and online twitter Big 12 guys think that. That's what's so ironic

TFL

11/29/23 3:37pm

BYU fans and Twitter are only ones exposed to Utah fans' opinions. . .

Madam Pattirini

11/29/23 3:50pm

Not really. When Utah got invited, no one was surprised but this small, awkward group. That group lost any validity

TFL

11/29/23 4:22pm

Oh, you mean the small group of BOT and Administrators at BYU that wanted the Utes in the Big 12

coot20

11/29/23 4:44pm

Or b12 fans see Utah for what they are and utahs own prez clearly doesn’t

BYU '80

11/29/23 8:49pm

Big12 fans have varying opinions on how Utah will perform. But they all agree

bluesloth

11/29/23 3:42pm

Nah.. just the twitter guys who spent the summer splaining to Utah fans that they'd get left out.

TFL

11/29/23 3:51pm

RE: Nah.. just the twitter guys who spent the summer splaining to Utah fans that

Millhouse

11/29/23 4:00pm

For one, you won’t have to take on TX and OU

kiyoshige

11/29/23 6:21pm

Good point. TX killed Utah in 2019. Downside to the whole BYU Indy argument

TFL

11/29/23 6:30pm

I think the vocal minority of CB Utah haters

kiyoshige

11/29/23 8:05pm

That’s why they lost for three years in a horrid p12. Upward trajectory

BYU '80

11/29/23 8:53pm

Once upon a time the beat Alabama in a bowl game as a G5

kiyoshige

11/29/23 9:55pm

Then if what you say is true they should have taken the p12 by storm. They didn’

BYU '80

11/29/23 10:12pm

You wouldn’t have even won the south this year and it stunk

BYU '80

11/29/23 8:52pm

That's the whole point though. Utah is 22-4 the last 5 full seasons vs. the South. 4-1 this year despite

TFL

11/30/23 5:17pm

RE: Texas was the big fish in the small pond. Utah is now one

Longseason

11/29/23 3:56pm

Literally proving the X-post accurate. Never change Ute homers living on CB. LOL

Atmospheric_Cougar

11/29/23 4:09pm

Wow. If Utah performs much better than BYU next season, I will be surprised. 😲

Robbinoburrito

11/29/23 4:42pm

Are you as optimistic in basketball and other sports? Don't be

CLCougar

11/29/23 4:46pm

No. Not at all. There's no logical reason to think Utah's MBB will be anything more than mediocre. FB

TFL

11/29/23 5:31pm

Getting worked by one of the other teams joining

CasualFan

11/29/23 5:40pm

So...an injury plagued Utah in a down year is 3-1 vs. new Big 12 — and that means they'll struggle

TFL

11/29/23 6:02pm

Nice strawman argument. G5/Indy -> P5 is not the same as P5 -> P5

TaysomJimmerEraCoug

11/29/23 4:55pm

You get it. It's a silly argument. That's why it's so fun. Like when they all claimed Utah was out of B12

TFL

11/29/23 11:06pm

Texas is a Blueblood program & top 2-3 for fanbase size/financial value

BamaCoug

11/29/23 6:00pm

Utah is a top 40 - 60 program from a small populous state with no history in CFB and G5 origins

TFL

11/30/23 1:52pm

Let me sum it more simply. Ute fans online are viewed as arrogant jerks

Atmospheric_Cougar

11/30/23 10:36pm

Perennial 4 loss team. Decent, not great. Will compete in B12. Might win once

niqmadu

11/30/23 9:02am

The Big 12 will be fun. With Rising coming back along with what looks like a terrific team

TFL

11/30/23 6:09pm

Ever the optimist

niqmadu

11/30/23 6:48pm

Utah fans coming into the Big12

kccougar

11/29/23 3:18pm

RE: Accurate.

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11/29/23 6:07pm

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