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Sep 25, 2023
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krindorr
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Part of that is probably also that they just recently issued clarification on what is meant by "crown" (that 6" radius)
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I had an open mind. Watch clips. it was targeting. The fact it was not at least reviewed is ridiculous.
RealityCheck
All-American
9/24/23 4:45am
We see two different things. Good head should to shoulder hit. No targeting.
TeeKaa
9/24/23 4:53am
Notice the two directions the helmet moves? Did the shoulder contact the helmet twice?
RealityCheck
9/24/23 4:59am
Looks hard but legal to me. In any event, you got to hold onto the ball.
TeeKaa
9/24/23 5:43am
You do when you get a small concussion, which he may in fact have received.
RealityCheck
9/24/23 6:15am
Small concussion, may have … if his head is 3 yds behind him, you don’t drop it.
TeeKaa
9/24/23 6:19am
Helmets were very clearly first. The still shots don't show it as clearly as the
Mises
9/24/23 5:30am
RE: Helmets were very clearly first. The still shots don't show it as clearly as
Mises
9/24/23 5:46am
Because Kingston dipped his head
I'mBatman
9/24/23 7:32am
The guy goes after the head either intentionally or not its a career ender and
ABCoug
9/24/23 7:09am
I don’t want those types of hits to be called targeting. But is crazy it wasn’t reviewed.
cougXor
9/24/23 5:02am
The result of that hit is exactly why the rule exists.
Mises
9/24/23 6:09am
So you prefer avoidable concussions. Cool.
dYrtbYkerYder
9/24/23 7:01am
Why? Its an extremely risky hit that can easily be avoided with the tackle still
ABCoug
9/24/23 7:11am
Could not disagree more. Not sure it was targeting under the rules. It was
bluescholar
9/24/23 11:30am
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lilpenny
9/24/23 5:23am
I mean...this video shows extremely clearly to me why it WASN'T targeting
krindorr
9/24/23 7:11am
Yep, that little clip makes it very clear it was shoulder and not helmet leading
Disco Lemonade
9/24/23 7:13am
Yeah, I think it's shoulder leading, but there's a chance it was helmet first
krindorr
9/24/23 8:33am
This is correct
CrimsonCardinal
9/24/23 8:43am
100% agree, but wish they would have reviewed.
stirmac
9/24/23 8:43am
“Launches and leads” doesn’t mean “hits”.
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 10:52am
Ok. So your argument is he led with the crown, but didn't connect with it? Still not a penalty then
krindorr
9/24/23 11:59am
Here’s the thing. Why does the rule exist?
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 12:15pm
And the reason the rule exists happened for the runner from that play.
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 12:16pm
Ok, that's a different argument then. Now you're saying it SHOULD be a penalty, not that it was by the written rules
krindorr
9/24/23 12:28pm
Okay, I’ve still seen it called when they lead with the crown and hit the side.
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 12:35pm
Part of that is probably also that they just recently issued clarification on what is meant by "crown" (that 6" radius)
krindorr
9/25/23 10:51am
Because then you’d be throwing players out on every drive.
CrimsonCardinal
9/24/23 3:02pm
Yeah I’m not seeing it at all
canuckchuck
9/24/23 7:18am
Which is it with you people? Kingston dipped his head or he ran upright?
BYU '80
9/24/23 8:52am
Not targeting. Heck of a hit and heck of a play, Cougs lost this one--winnable
MotorCityCoug
9/24/23 7:18am
They both had Guardian caps
ragid
9/24/23 7:40am
I think if Kingston does a little soccer move and lays there as if dead…
MaahngCoug
9/24/23 8:20am
For all the work and analysis, you don’t understand the rule.
NWCoug
9/24/23 9:03am
4 indicators: Launch? No. Crouch? No. Crown of helmet? No. Contact with head?
canofpicante
9/24/23 9:08am
This hit is usually called targeting. Consistency in the call would be nice.
ParentingNotForSissy
9/24/23 9:54am
Disagree. I think nine out of 10 times that doesn’t get called targeting.
canofpicante
9/24/23 10:01am
It’s “yes” to all. Leading with the crown doesn’t mean hitting with it.
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 11:18am
If you don’t hit with the crown of the helmet, are you really leading with it?
Powerbait DPM
9/24/23 11:22am
You can. That’s my point. It doesn’t matter what the runner is doing,
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 11:33am
This is also indicated at by the helmets hitting their sides.
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 11:35am
Leading what? Leading the hit. He did not lead the hit with the crown. He lead
canofpicante
9/24/23 11:39am
Okay. Say the runner doesn’t lean forward to the right?
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 11:46am
Running down the field with the crown of your helmet facing forward is not an
canofpicante
9/24/23 2:59pm
As I said, he led with the crown, our player avoided the brunt of it.
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 3:10pm
Can you really tell me that you’ve never seen someone ejected when they
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 3:16pm
True, but that's an argument that because things were called incorrectly beforehand, we should also benefit from it now
krindorr
9/24/23 4:28pm
The official rule says forcible contact with the crown
krindorr
9/24/23 12:00pm
I’ve seen targeting called where they led with the crown but only the side hit.
Robbinoburrito
9/24/23 12:03pm
Shoulder pad to sternum will NEVER be targeting & blue goggles doesn’t change it
CorndogStickshift
9/24/23 11:25am
The biggest problem is we have all seen much less called as targeting. But I’ve
Powerbait DPM
9/24/23 11:32am
Lets break this down, point by point.
AltTabbins
9/24/23 12:41pm
Not targeting. Move on
dizthewiz
9/25/23 12:27am
You may be correct, but it should have been reviewed. Needed a closer look
greentruth
9/25/23 7:07am
Crazy he got a concussion from a hit that didn't include helmet to helmet
Julius Pepperwood
9/25/23 9:31am
It was helmet to helmet...and also was not targeting.
Jingleheimer
9/25/23 9:49am
Yeah so crazy 🤦🏻♂️ happens all the time with whiplash.
dizthewiz
9/25/23 1:59pm
It was targeting. Move on.
Robbinoburrito
9/25/23 9:58am
Where was the call?
canofpicante
9/25/23 10:56am
Lol. There was no call. Hence the debate. There should have been one.
Robbinoburrito
9/25/23 12:17pm
So it wasn’t targeting. Gotcha. Officials determine targeting.
canofpicante
9/26/23 3:19pm
That’s the silliest response I’ve ever seen on CB.
Robbinoburrito
9/26/23 8:12pm
So silly. And yet that play still isn’t targeting and never will be. And there’s
canofpicante
9/26/23 9:24pm
RE: So silly. And yet that play still isn’t targeting…And never will
dYrtbYkerYder
9/26/23 9:25pm
Nothing except gripe about a missed call. It’s part of what fan boards are for.
Robbinoburrito
9/27/23 5:25am
Missed call in your opinion.
canofpicante
9/27/23 7:39am
And your opinion it wasn’t. Lol. Your comments are so silly.
Robbinoburrito
9/27/23 10:15am
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