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Aug 12, 2018
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Machiavelli
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Ahh right, I'm sure you stopped reading right after that.
I'm glad he's giving us his thoughts on the scrimmage yesterday. I heart Grimes too. He's playing a big role in turning the team around.
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Why I left the scrimmage yesterday fairly giddy.
YbeatsU
8/12/18 10:24am
Wow... at LEAST be compared to Max Hall??
papencoug
8/12/18 10:26am
I didn’t think this was an unpopular opinion, maybe it is. But, I think Max Hall is one of the greats.
scootsy
8/12/18 10:27am
I consider Max one of the greats.
papencoug
8/12/18 10:35am
Most wins for a QB in School history. Upset #3 Oklahoma. He is a great. If
BYUtka
8/12/18 11:00am
I love Max too
JKLCoug
8/13/18 9:03am
But that's the whole point, isn't it?
Eddie
8/13/18 9:57am
yes, agree
JKLCoug
8/13/18 2:05pm
Um, he was fantastic against OU
Y05
8/13/18 7:42pm
Sounds like you remember better than I do
JKLCoug
8/14/18 9:44am
Could/should have been 24 points
Y05
8/14/18 6:28pm
He is obviously one of the greats
YIsForBrigham
8/12/18 11:01am
Only reason to disagree is nostalgia bias from the 80s
DanSmith
8/12/18 4:58pm
Not even debatable really
Triznaynay
8/12/18 7:42pm
So basically you thought the defense was terrible.
Cougarclaw
8/12/18 10:29am
That's what I read. Down with Tuiaki!
BYUALWAYSNUM1
8/12/18 3:33pm
Max Hall is a great.
TPcoug
8/12/18 10:29am
Absolutely, IMO
Dan
8/12/18 10:30am
I agree... I edited my post. My question mark was for the OP.
TPcoug
8/12/18 10:35am
Most wins by a BYU QB evah!!!
CougarCanuck76
8/12/18 10:31am
2-1 against Utah. 2-1 in bowl games. 1 conference championship. Winningest BYU QB ever.
Holy Driver
8/12/18 10:32am
Craptastic games every time against Utah. Defense won those two games. And he
SandYFan
8/12/18 10:34am
Don't ever change.
Left Shark Coug
8/12/18 10:36am
Come on. You got to give him a little credit.
Holy Driver
8/12/18 10:38am
4th and 18 was a horribly underthrown pass that was only completed
SandYFan
8/12/18 10:40am
He was on the run on 4th and 18. Didn’t plant his feet.
Holy Driver
8/12/18 10:45am
I don't care if he didn't plant his feet. The pass was underthrown 10 yards.
SandYFan
8/12/18 10:53am
Your poor wife
TPcoug
8/12/18 10:55am
I have. Less than 50% accuracy. TD/INT was way off. But you make it sound like they
Holy Driver
8/12/18 10:59am
Do you know how far ten yards is?
COACHdrn
8/12/18 8:12pm
He had a seperated shoulder.
byubyu
8/12/18 11:46am
But it was completed... right?
BYUtka
8/12/18 11:52am
You are an eternal pessimist aren't you
TPcoug
8/12/18 10:39am
Nah. Jamaal Williams was an all-time stud. Love Harvey. John Beck was
SandYFan
8/12/18 10:42am
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Abe Froman
8/13/18 9:57am
Not sure what Max Hall did to you....
bushy7
8/12/18 10:41am
And the defense allowed him to be in a spot where it even mattered.
SandYFan
8/12/18 10:44am
So... they did their job..
BYUtka
8/12/18 11:54am
A win is a win.
BYUtka
8/12/18 11:50am
RE: Craptastic games every time against Utah. Defense won those two games. And he
Slim
8/12/18 12:01pm
one of a kind right here
deliciousmocha
8/12/18 3:35pm
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Abe Froman
8/12/18 7:47pm
Fact: the defense gave up a fourth quarter lead in both of Max's wins
Y05
8/13/18 8:10pm
I don’t buy into team records as a good measure for individual player skill. IMO it’s the most overused and overrated
mvtoro
8/13/18 9:19pm
It's probably overrated, but I don't think it is meaningless
Y05
8/13/18 9:55pm
It can’t be meaningless. It’s team performance but he’s still the most important player on that team.
mvtoro
8/13/18 11:27pm
I misspoke. I know Max is a great which I think is ZW’s floor.
YbeatsU
8/12/18 10:35am
The winningest QB in BYU history is Zach’s floor? Wowzer.
Junior Deputy
8/12/18 10:55am
"Bold". That is one word for it... Considering the fact that we couldn't get past midfield, vs. LSU, and finished among
whitey1980
8/12/18 11:22pm
RE: I misspoke. I know Max is a great which I think is ZW’s floor.
mightybrick
8/12/18 11:38am
Geez, don’t do that to ZW...
ColumbusCoug
8/13/18 5:07am
I think Max is incredibly overrated; however...
dk4
8/12/18 12:42pm
Who the crap is in your top 15?
Left Shark Coug
8/12/18 1:29pm
15 dudes you’d take over Max Hall?!?!?!
climps
8/12/18 1:32pm
Now I am curious, who would you place in your top 15?
crazY
8/12/18 6:26pm
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Abe Froman
8/12/18 8:00pm
I'll take another crappy quarterback like max as long as...
baldcoug74
8/12/18 9:31pm
Man I thumbs-downed this like three hours ago but I still can’t get over how bad
Junior Deputy
8/12/18 9:40pm
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Jimmy Rocket
8/12/18 9:45pm
Who is the Top 15? My list of where I think BYU fandom ranks our QBs
Zoobieman
8/13/18 12:23pm
But which unit were they succeeding against?
Ash
8/12/18 10:41am
Both played multiple drives against the 1’s and 2’s on D.
YbeatsU
8/12/18 10:44am
Our 1s on D are basically 3s everywhere else
Y4LYFE
8/12/18 10:55am
Because the season hasn't started so reality hasn't sunk in yet?
Hypnotoad
8/12/18 10:46am
Hopefully this doesn’t mean the defense isn’t horrible
bald man
8/12/18 10:51am
The run game due to the backs or the Oline?
pegushin
8/12/18 10:57am
My pessimistic self would say it's becuz our DLine is terrible. It was last yr.
Jennerstein
8/12/18 11:11am
run defense was the one thing our defense was good at last year.
here's to hoping
8/13/18 10:12am
Due to the Oline and Scheme.
YbeatsU
8/12/18 12:12pm
So thus far Grimes scheme is looking good. Run to set up pass/SEC style?
pegushin
8/12/18 1:31pm
Without SEC talent.
whitey1980
8/12/18 11:45pm
I wish i could buy the hype
Jericho
8/12/18 11:18am
We might not score a td in 2 or 3 of tough games.
johnnycarson
8/12/18 11:39am
2013 BYU faced 7 P5 teams and had at least 180 net rushing yards in each game
Jesse Pinkman
8/12/18 12:29pm
Ok, so if we have the best rushing QB in history we might have a chance
Jericho
8/12/18 12:44pm
That's some good Kool aid right there. Drink it up folks
swimbro
8/12/18 11:48am
#2 - lol. so at the very least will compare with the greatest winner
smokymountainrain
8/12/18 12:28pm
I left the scrimmage yesterday thinking... the Wilson hype is real.
TheLost
8/12/18 12:35pm
So at the least we have a QB who will win more games than any BYU QB ever?
AFcoug7
8/12/18 1:26pm
Haha... I'll believe it when I see it in a game
Byu_1988
8/12/18 1:40pm
Funny, I read almost the exact same post before 2017, 2016, 2015...
Backcountry
8/12/18 1:46pm
You’re back!? How’s Whitt?
Ocho Cuatro
8/12/18 8:29pm
So our defense stinks now? Great!
stonecougar
8/12/18 4:04pm
I appreciate the report but I donno how anyone can come away from
CougarsFanSince80s
8/12/18 4:20pm
Like optimism but”run on anybody”? Ask me after Wiscy and UW if u feel the same
Swishfromdeep3
8/12/18 4:33pm
“ I heart Grimes” seriously ..... that’s where you lost me...
Pretorian
8/12/18 4:49pm
Ahh right, I'm sure you stopped reading right after that.
Machiavelli
8/12/18 6:10pm
I like Grimes a lot, it just the 13 year old girl phrasing... "I heart anything"
Pretorian
8/12/18 6:54pm
Can one say that Grimes is turning things around before a single ball in a real game has been snapped? I like what I am
whitey1980
8/12/18 11:54pm
Culture has already changed dramatically
Machiavelli
8/13/18 7:55am
I agree. I'm just being very cautiously optimistic before I see them play in a real game. 90% cautious/10% optimistic.
whitey1980
8/13/18 7:48pm
Yeah - it's just a little premature to say that the team has been turned around.
Eddie
8/13/18 8:08pm
RE: Why I left the scrimmage yesterday fairly giddy.
Gerald-DeGroot
8/12/18 5:09pm
Lol at #1 and #2,...couldn’t keep reading past that.
Ocho Cuatro
8/12/18 8:27pm
Yeah reading is hard. Keep trying though Joe.
YbeatsU
8/12/18 8:57pm
RE: Yeah reading is hard. Keep trying though Joe.
Ocho Cuatro
8/12/18 9:35pm
RE: Yeah reading is hard. Keep trying though Joe.
YbeatsU
8/12/18 9:40pm
So I took that as
jkccoug
8/12/18 9:24pm
Made me laugh.
YbeatsU
8/12/18 9:27pm
That was the goal
jkccoug
8/13/18 9:11am
Glass half empty much?
Yunit
8/13/18 7:27am
Not buying into any preseason hype. Show me BYU
Borg
8/13/18 9:19am
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