Likewise friend. Glad we could have this civil conversation.

I don't think anyone should be able to ignore me.

benny1982

10/19/17 2:13pm

Fewer stupid opinions. Can someone work on that?

Kilgore Trout

10/19/17 2:14pm

Just 1 reply so far?

Ragnar Danneskjold

10/19/17 2:14pm

Yes! RD isn't ignoring me!

Kilgore Trout

10/19/17 2:15pm

Not sure why you'd ignore Kilgore. I never see anything controversial from him.

benny1982

10/19/17 2:15pm

Oh yeah?

Kilgore Trout

10/19/17 2:19pm

Add reciprocal ignore so people I have on ignore can't see my posts.

BYUtka

10/19/17 2:15pm

You already can prevent people from seeing your posts if you don't want them to.

joelvandyne

10/19/17 2:17pm

You can?

CDV

10/19/17 2:26pm

FO posts

spugeddy24

10/19/17 2:27pm

FO?

CDV

10/19/17 2:27pm

I don't think others should have control over what I see on the board

spugeddy24

10/19/17 2:24pm

They already do. This would give you more control of who can or cannot see your

BYUtka

10/19/17 2:38pm

My way of determining who can see my posts is posting FO. Other than that I shouldn't be able to alter other's viewing

spugeddy24

10/19/17 2:39pm

Why are you good with FO but not recip ignore? What's the difference?

Ulysses14

10/19/17 6:44pm

I'm comfortable sharing personal details of my life with my FO.* Not the general

AndyDwyer

10/19/17 7:01pm

I'm saying still have FO but add a recip ignore option too

Ulysses14

10/19/17 7:17pm

Yep, very different purposes.

BYUtka

10/19/17 7:27pm

Yes, reciprocal ignores are meant to control the experiences of others.

AndyDwyer

10/19/17 7:30pm

No, they are to give you more nuanced control over your own posts.

BYUtka

10/19/17 7:40pm

By not allowing certain others to see your posts. Sounds like FO.

AndyDwyer

10/19/17 7:49pm

Then you don’t understand. I suspect you are not understanding on purpose.

BYUtka

10/19/17 8:34pm

Sounds like what Jefe says to me during appeals.

AndyDwyer

10/19/17 10:33pm

LOL....me to

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 9:51am

He understands. he just has a difference of opinion.

spugeddy24

10/20/17 1:45pm

By controlling other's ability of what they can see.

spugeddy24

10/20/17 1:44pm

That already happens in a bulky way. This makes it more nuanced and potentially

BYUtka

10/20/17 2:26pm

That isn't the point....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:09am

Because I shouldn't be able to control the main board.

spugeddy24

10/20/17 1:44pm

Why do you want to see his posts so badly....

CoachSpeak

10/19/17 10:05pm

General users should not be able to control the CB experience of other users. That power is limited to mods acting in

DapperDan

10/20/17 6:42am

I think GenPop would benefit because fewer people would be pushed "underground"

Ulysses14

10/20/17 6:49am

Two things. First, why do you think general users should be able to control other's CB experience?

DapperDan

10/20/17 6:52am

1) They already can via FO. If more people are comfortable with GenPop

Ulysses14

10/20/17 6:56am

FO is not genpop. FO is your playground to control. Genpop is not yours to control

DapperDan

10/20/17 8:04am

Some trolls just can't admit that it would force them to stop trolling.

Division Bell

10/20/17 8:05am

You weren't even on CB when the feature existed. It didn't do what you think it would do.

DapperDan

10/20/17 8:07am

I still think it's worth a try.

Division Bell

10/20/17 8:19am

It's been tried. It doesn't work the way you or BYUtka think it does.

DapperDan

10/20/17 8:22am

Yes. It does, and it makes CB a better place for non-trolls.

BYUtka

10/20/17 9:38am

Why are you harrassing me with your thdowns? Are you a troll?

DapperDan

10/20/17 9:48am

No, I don’t do that. I am disagreeing with your post without having to type a

BYUtka

10/20/17 9:56am

Abusing the feature is considered harrassment

DapperDan

10/20/17 9:57am

As it should be.

BYUtka

10/20/17 9:58am

You probably should disengage. It's embarrassing.

Division Bell

10/20/17 10:16am

I'm starting to feel bad for him too

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:17am

This is a perfect example of the point I am making....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:41am

You mean Division Bell coming to your aid as part of a coordinated group attack?

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:46am

I can see I've hit a nerve...

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:57am

The one that makes me laugh

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:59am

Let me help you....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 11:11am

Funny how those most outspoken against liberal "safe spaces" are the ones most loudly in favor of it on CB.

BYUtiful

10/20/17 8:20am

Reciprocal ignore is about turning your genpop experience into an echo chamber

russkiejedi

10/20/17 9:49am

No. Ignore could accomplish that. Recip refines the experience and removes the

BYUtka

10/20/17 9:55am

But this is not really true....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:04am

haha and the conspiracy theories come out. Glad I've got my tinfoil hat on.

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:05am

There's no "conspiracy theory" at all....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:13am

You're literally making up a conspiracy theory that isn't true. How can I not laugh about it?

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:15am

What "conspiracy theory" am I "making up"?

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:22am

The entire thing. What is happening is that people who disagree with posts are *gasp* disagreeing with them.

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:28am

Glad I could help you out....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:32am

Have you considered the possiblity that if so many people disagree with you

joelvandyne

10/20/17 10:10am

Or even if it's a subjective opinion, that others legitimately disagreeing with it is not coordinated trolling

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:16am

I normally see this as a “vocal minority and a silent majority” situation. Sometimes your assertion

kalifi

10/20/17 10:18am

Sure...

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:19am

Re: "It is actually happening on this thread to a degree"

joelvandyne

10/20/17 10:31am

If I was "crying" then sure....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:40am

I have considered those points. I think the people making them are wrong.

joelvandyne

10/20/17 10:50am

Hmmm.....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 11:01am

Likewise friend. Glad we could have this civil conversation.

joelvandyne

10/20/17 11:04am

You bet....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 11:12am

If it was simply not seeing people disagreeing the current ignore works just

BYUtka

10/20/17 11:06am

Oh I get it....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 8:26am

I think that's the crux of the matter.

Division Bell

10/20/17 8:31am

That you think this is about any one user's posts shows you don't understand

DapperDan

10/20/17 8:34am

But again, you could have an FO post on here too that I wouldn't be able to see

Ulysses14

10/20/17 8:40am

That's literally the purpose of FO. I don't know why you keep bringing it up.

DapperDan

10/20/17 8:43am

Unfortunately FO is not as "secure" a place as you are trying to pretend it is..

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 8:52am

I've made no claims to FO being secure, so I have no idea why you bring that up.

DapperDan

10/20/17 9:05am

I don't need any "inside knowledge"....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:07am

I'll be honest about accusations that aren't true. Will you?

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:12am

what "accusations" am I making?

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:30am

I really hope you don't believe that nonesense. No one's out to get you, they just don't agree with you

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:35am

Where did I say anyone is out to get "me"?

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 10:45am

You're missing the point. What you see as a coordinated attack is exactly what's happening here. People disagreeing and

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:50am

See you really don't get it....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 11:08am

I get that you imagine this to be the case and honestly it's quite flattering and amusing

DapperDan

10/20/17 11:12am

The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Hamlet Act 3, Scene 2

Division Bell

10/20/17 11:19am

oh no post mocking me and someone piling on with a th'up. Whatever will I do?

DapperDan

10/20/17 11:46am

Maybe you should put us on ignore.

BYUtka

10/20/17 11:51am

No thanks. I've got a great deal on my big boy pants and I'm not about to take them off

DapperDan

10/20/17 11:54am

Let me speak up for CoachSpeak. He’s just trying to get his point across.

IndianaCoug

10/20/17 11:50am

I don't think it is about "any one user's posts"....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 8:40am

If you mean "CB trolling" which means posting opinions that aren't far right or 150% in support of BYU or the Church

DapperDan

10/20/17 8:49am

and for the third or fourth time...

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 8:58am

It's very simple, a general user should not have the power to moderate other's CB experience

DapperDan

10/20/17 9:00am

Why not?

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 9:09am

Since Jefe has removed the feature, you'd make more sense to present an argument for "why"

DapperDan

10/20/17 9:16am

I'm not trying to make an argument for "why"....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 9:23am

You are looking at this backward. It is about having more control of your own

BYUtka

10/20/17 9:31am

By controlling others. If you want control, post in the FO that you control. That's what I do.

DapperDan

10/20/17 9:50am

You still have this completely backward. At this point I suspect you are missing

BYUtka

10/20/17 9:58am

You're the one with the twisted logic here.

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:01am

No. I am not.

BYUtka

10/20/17 10:36am

Too many define trolling as, "Has a different opinion/worldview than me and

Byron McNertney

10/20/17 9:07am

Agreed. I'd just rather sensitive people exclude the 1% who annoy them rather

Ulysses14

10/20/17 9:16am

Same. It is sad to me that everyone has retreated to FO.

BYUtka

10/20/17 10:09am

Sure....

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 9:30am

Yes it did. For those who used it, it was nice, effective and made the board a

BYUtka

10/20/17 9:30am

He is remembering corretly IMO...

CoachSpeak

10/20/17 9:33am

Why do you care who reads your posts (outside of FO), especially if you have

AndyDwyer

10/19/17 2:39pm

Right now there is no downside to getting ignored, so certain posters act in a

BYUtka

10/19/17 2:48pm

Yes, there is a downside. Your overall ignore score goes up, which impacts how many people can see your posts.

spugeddy24

10/19/17 2:52pm

You clearly don't understand how ignores work in this board

unctoothman

10/20/17 5:50am

Besides spugeddy's correct statement above, the downside is that someone else

unctoothman

10/20/17 6:16am

Why do you think it's anyone's businesses if he wants to exclude certain trolls?

Division Bell

10/19/17 9:47pm

He's controlling what users experience on the website. You can't see how that

AndyDwyer

10/19/17 10:32pm

Nope. Unless someone is ignoring a ton of people, the effects would be small but

BYUtka

10/19/17 10:51pm

So, like State-sponsored media?

AndyDwyer

10/19/17 3:04pm

BYU’s record on the schedule page.

jakesnake

10/19/17 2:17pm

Not this year though.

Ragnar Danneskjold

10/19/17 2:18pm

<< Deleted >>

AndyDwyer

10/19/17 2:18pm

Rumors should include sourse. No quoting un-named people.

Count Cougar

10/19/17 2:20pm

I vote for indulgences.

Ragnar Danneskjold

10/19/17 2:21pm

Got my shirt off & pants rolled up. At the bottom of the RB stairs ready to go!

mantis mutu

10/19/17 2:28pm

They already exist if you’re liberal.

garyfan

10/19/17 2:28pm

Ideological neutrality. "Yeah right!!!"

mantis mutu

10/19/17 2:26pm

Everyone has to ignore benny1982. His opinions are terrible.

crazY

10/19/17 2:27pm

Reciprocal UNignore

benny1982

10/19/17 2:28pm

Less moderation

GhostofPostersPast

10/19/17 2:31pm

With a reciprocal ignore this would happen naturally. More people would self

BYUtka

10/19/17 2:50pm

Which is just fine. CB is not what it once was because of overmoderation

GhostofPostersPast

10/19/17 2:52pm

It didn't work that way when reciprical ignores existed

DapperDan

10/19/17 2:52pm

Pretty close to it. You are remembering wrong.

BYUtka

10/20/17 9:32am

I can guarantee I am not misremembering. You have a nostalgic view of the past.

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:02am

What type of guarantee? What are you willing to back this with?

BYUtka

10/20/17 10:23am

Since you likely think I was one of these trolls who changed their posting due to being reciprocal ignored I cann tell

DapperDan

10/20/17 10:30am

I don’t think that. Until this thread, I basically don’t remember having any

BYUtka

10/20/17 10:51am

I've been on the board forever, and it was only a couple people who couldn't handle people disgreeing with them

DapperDan

10/20/17 11:11am

Or maybe you just didn’t see it, because it was working well.

BYUtka

10/20/17 11:14am

Need to clarify that. You didn’t see how it impacted the board, because it

BYUtka

10/20/17 11:17am

It was invisible to everyone but one or two people. Not sure how that made the board better.

DapperDan

10/20/17 11:52am

Agreed. I have nobody on ignore but don’t understand why recip ignore was taken

Jericho

10/19/17 2:56pm

5 day wait period before you can post after creating account

Tygger

10/19/17 2:36pm

And 5 additional days if your first post is really stupid.

mantis mutu

10/19/17 2:39pm

Self-serve fountain drink stand, virtual of course...

Frank Castiglione

10/19/17 2:38pm

No more suspensions. Just delete posts if you don’t want them on the board

Jericho

10/19/17 2:41pm

it would be out of control.

smokymountainrain

10/19/17 3:03pm

Adding recip ignores or forcing that between offending parties for

Jericho

10/19/17 3:09pm

I think some suspense is OK, but for something egregious

GhostofPostersPast

10/19/17 4:07pm

jefe would still be CEO, but i would be chief moderation officer

smokymountainrain

10/19/17 2:48pm

Better spelling

Go_Trojans

10/19/17 2:48pm

FRAMES

shimmy

10/19/17 2:59pm

Add an "anything goes" category for subscribers

Twin Roots

10/19/17 3:01pm

that would be hugely popular.

smokymountainrain

10/19/17 3:02pm

There an "Uncivil Politics" group for subscribers that is kind of like that.

El Jefe

10/20/17 9:40am

Great suggestion. I might subscribe for that

jkccoug

10/20/17 10:43am

Everyone would agree with me...always

CBaass

10/19/17 3:06pm

Someone gets voted off the island every week.

Seaward

10/19/17 9:11pm

Pretty sure that becomes the hunger games after a while.

Blue Plate Special

10/19/17 9:18pm

To decrease trolls, before signing up, you have to answer several BYU

Traveshamockery

10/20/17 9:32am

Has to be two things. Level of Drama and Civility. So I would say

DJROSS

10/20/17 10:02am

Are you glad you asked this question?

Ulysses14

10/20/17 3:00pm

Posting on CougarBoard