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gurt

Bio page: gurt
Joined: Mar 15, 2007
Last login: Apr 11, 2025
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The NBA has to end the incentive to tank. It is destroying the game.

kosmokramer

Mar 25, 11:36pm

I think the #2 and #5 picks should go to teams that make the playoffs.

4mack

Mar 25, 11:48pm

Ok, but if you're the Pelicans and have season ending injuries to your top 4

Waluigi

Mar 26, 12:08am

I’m all for ditching the draft…or going to the wheel.

PHXSUNS31

Mar 26, 12:13am

So many issues with your proposal but the most glaring one is you would decide who wins the championship based on ping

kimdaddy35

Mar 26, 1:24am

Give the new salary cap rules a couple of years. I'm betting they'll make a difference.

ManicBlue

Mar 25, 11:52pm

How so? I’m not familiar with the new rules.

7FootRussian

Mar 25, 11:56pm

High salary teams are even more restricted on acquiring players. Also, many of those teams don't have the ability

ManicBlue

Mar 26, 12:34am

Phoenix's issues have little to do with the new rules.

kimdaddy35

Mar 26, 1:14am

It sure does going forward

Mar 26, 1:37am

Meh, they have to salary dump Royce Oneal and then they will be good.

kimdaddy35

Mar 26, 1:47am

Not really. They still have to sign more players to fill out the team. They're also looking at extending KD. They're in

ManicBlue

Mar 26, 9:01am

Yes they would have to add minimum contract guys. No one is saying the Suns are in good position. They are not.

kimdaddy35

Mar 26, 9:31am

Yes, bad decisions but are now limited in what they can do because of the salary cap rules.

ManicBlue

Mar 26, 9:33am

What does that have to do with tanking though?

PHXSUNS31

Mar 26, 9:34am

Teams will tank more now to get good young talent as the expensive free agent route puts you in jail.

kimdaddy35

Mar 26, 9:39am

Ya I’m lost on what he is getting at

PHXSUNS31

Mar 26, 9:55am

Many teams, like the Suns who should have an incentive to tank, don't have control over their draft picks and also,

ManicBlue

Mar 26, 10:11am

Again that has zero to do with the new collective bargaining agreement and yes, tanking works. Who has the best

kimdaddy35

Mar 26, 10:22am

Sure it does. The CBA and salary cap is another way in addition to the draft for teams to get better. They're very much

ManicBlue

Mar 26, 10:35am

The Cavs drafted Garland and Mobley in the top 5.

PHXSUNS31

Mar 26, 11:41am

I thought these things were well known, but apparently not.

kimdaddy35

Mar 26, 12:10pm

And yet it took trading for Donovan to even make the playoffs. Gosh, thought that was well known.

ManicBlue

Mar 26, 4:37pm

Actually they did make the playoffs before Mitchell

PHXSUNS31

Mar 26, 5:08pm

2022-23? Donovan's first year with the Cavs you mean?

ManicBlue

Mar 26, 11:14pm

2021-22 when they finished 8th. Pretty funny argument you have going on.

kimdaddy35

Mar 27, 9:17am

They didn't make the playoffs that year. You might want to recheck your "facts".

ManicBlue

Mar 27, 9:54am

Kimdaddy is most definitely not a suns fan..but if you read all of my post

PHXSUNS31

Mar 27, 10:07am

Point is ... and always has been ... tanking as a strategy for building a championship team does NOT work.

ManicBlue

Mar 27, 10:33am

And your point is wrong and has always been wrong

PHXSUNS31

Mar 27, 11:12am

OKC didn't build their team by tanking. Their high picks are not the cornerstones of their team by any means.

ManicBlue

Mar 27, 4:32pm

There’s not a single person who thinks just tanking is the way

PHXSUNS31

Mar 27, 5:07pm

You should actually read kimdaddy's post sometime.

ManicBlue

Mar 27, 9:51pm

He of the king of the strawman argument.

kimdaddy35

Mar 27, 10:04pm

Likely more people have blocked you. 😂 Oh, that's hilarious! Kimdaddy just blocked me. 😂😂

ManicBlue

Mar 27, 10:07pm

You are one of the funniest people I have ever met.

kimdaddy35

Mar 27, 11:40am

Talk about funny ... you're hilarious!

ManicBlue

Mar 27, 4:41pm

The straw man comes again.

kimdaddy35

Mar 27, 5:57pm

Including the definition for your benefit. If you need help understanding it, I'll be glad to call someone.

ManicBlue

Mar 27, 9:50pm

Haven’t they already been going a couple years? I thought the last CBA was 2023

Your Royal Blueness

Mar 26, 12:27am

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gurt

Mar 26, 1:12am

I still think the #1 pick should go to the team with the best record that

neboutefan

Mar 26, 7:15am

No, that would incentivize teams close to making the playoff to tank. You would

ThEJOKER

Mar 26, 7:52am

Yes I suppose that's likely, so what's the fix?

neboutefan

Mar 26, 8:31am

That's the million dollar question. There are some interesting ideas in the

ThEJOKER

Mar 26, 9:25am

Ya I do think allowing teams to only tank 1 year would be nice

PHXSUNS31

Mar 26, 9:31am

FWIW, the NBA is aware of it and ESPN wrote an article on this a couple days ago

ThEJOKER

Mar 26, 7:54am

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