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Dec 7, 2024
12:25:57pm

Zoobieman All-American

Sorry man, I got tired. . .

I heard what Bronco said, I heard what Nick Howell said, I read what the AD and President "supposedly" did to try to keep Bronco in Virginia.

I came to the conclusion that Bronco was not pushed out at all, it was not 100% mutual parting as Virginia wanted him to stay. But at the end of the day, Virginia tried to keep him, he didn't want to stay, Virginia knew there were 20-30 other candidates to interview and moved on quickly. . . Just like Alabama and Nick Saban.

Just like most government jobs, every single person is replaceable. . . and when Bronco couldn't be convinced to stay after a brief talk, they moved on swiftly. . . Because why not move on at that point?

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Zoobieman

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Author

Time

I don’t get Bronco’s career arc

dtownCoug

Dec 6, 8:15am

USU is a far, far better program than UNM.

NGB

Dec 6, 8:16am

RE: USU is a far, far better program than UNM.

WJCougar

Dec 6, 8:17am

Why do you think this? I’m not saying you’re wrong but I’m not sure about

macdizzle

Dec 6, 8:17am

Since joining the mwc usu is 55-37 in conference play. New Mexico is 24-69. Usu averages 25% better attendance last 5

RdF3

Dec 6, 8:24am

25%? So like 50 people more?

WJCougar

Dec 6, 8:28am

are they including livestock in the count?

Pangare

Dec 6, 9:17am

Success, history, etc. They're absolutely NOT comparable.

NGB

Dec 6, 8:25am

Also, Logan is much better of a location than Albuquerque.

Ode to Hoy

Dec 6, 10:00am

*Ogden

TheAirForceCoug

Dec 6, 10:43am

Some might call it Logden

Ode to Hoy

Dec 6, 12:43pm

New PAC >>>New MWC.

Conan

Dec 6, 8:26am

The ceiling is much higher at New Mexico than at Utah State

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:16am

Lol not a chance it is. There's a reason why USU has won the MWC & played in 2 conference championships and NM NEVER has

RdF3

Dec 6, 9:21am

UNM has been left behind in the MWC, their future is bleak institutionally

g$

Dec 6, 10:26am

RE: New PAC >>>New MWC.

AltTabbins

Dec 6, 9:26am

2 bowls in the last 18 years. This is the first >3 win season since 2017 for UNM

AggieWeekendCougar

Dec 6, 8:27am

He doubled their win total from 2 to 4

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:08am

They went 5-7

NGB

Dec 6, 9:25am

Overall records since 2005:

pink22

Dec 6, 8:31am

Yet Utah St's most proud accomplishment in the last 20 years is injuring Taysom

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:04am

Let’s let the mascots duke it out and decide

niqmadu

Dec 7, 9:06am

It's more complicated than that. When he left BYU the AD was not sad to see him

Blueto

Dec 6, 8:20am

But someone that can achieve USU’s ceiling with minimal risk of leaving.

Bin01015

Dec 6, 8:51am

He hadn't worn out his welcome with me. He has an open invite to dinner

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:06am

His "job" at UVA had very mixed results. And UVA found Bronco very hard to work with.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 8:25am

Hires and fires?

Cooouuugs

Dec 6, 8:26am

Yep.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 8:27am

They demanded he fire defensive coaches

I'mBatman

Dec 6, 12:21pm

I'll always love how guys who have never taken a single step on UVA's campus

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 6, 8:40am

The fact I've been on the UVA campus several times is certainly not how I know.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 8:51am

Should be easy to link the articles, then.

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 6, 8:55am

I've already done the work WHEN it was live news & discussion. That would seem to be your job.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 8:57am

Should then be easy for you to find those articles you linked...if you did.

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 6, 9:12am

A Fan board I didn't belong to & Virginia news articles from two years ago? Doesn't sound like time I wanna waste.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 9:16am

Shoulda been like Deion. Should've kept your receipts.

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:18am

Why? I follow news to know for myself, not to prove jack to anyone.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 9:20am

So an anonymous person, knew anonymous information gathered from an anonymous

downtownchrisbrown

Dec 6, 9:34am

It was definitely more than A "person", & some of the news was definitely not anonymous

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 9:53am

I'm saying you are reporting that you saw something somewhere sometime. That

downtownchrisbrown

Dec 6, 10:02am

Did you go to their fanboard & to their locals during the same time

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 10:06am

I did not. But I'm sure you can understand the skepticism

downtownchrisbrown

Dec 6, 10:10am

And I couldn't care less about the skepticism. I shared from the vantage I know.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 10:14am

Virginia news sources made it clear that they wanted Mendenhall to stay

Zoobieman

Dec 6, 10:59am

Did I say that they fired him?

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 11:05am

"It was a mutual parting of ways." - But it wasn't

Zoobieman

Dec 6, 11:13am

You want to believe the cut-n-dry official release as the whole story — then you're certainly welcome to it.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 11:19am

I also believe Bronco. . . Who said the same thing

Zoobieman

Dec 6, 11:46am

Yes, he quit. Because he didn't want to deal w the conditions raised by the AthDept.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 11:54am

Keep it going!

Cletus the Fetus

Dec 7, 9:39am

As opposed to "real-life" mutual break-ups envisioned by too many CBers?

SinkingQuffa

Dec 7, 10:22am

Sorry man, I got tired. . .

Zoobieman

Dec 7, 12:25pm

Should likewise be easy for you to show any public information to the contrary. Do you have some link showing

Bob Vance

Dec 6, 9:24am

I said UVA had a love fest for Bronco? Guess I missed where I said that.

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 6, 10:08am

Likewise, if you can point me to where I said those words about you, I'd appreciate it.

Bob Vance

Dec 6, 11:11am

<< Deleted >>

Bob Vance

Dec 6, 11:04am

Lots of reporting (I'm also not going to find) about Bronco refusing to fire D

NYC and Japan

Dec 6, 12:40pm

I have no doubt they wanted him to replace his DC, and I myself posted at the

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 6, 2:08pm

Those were not both possible for Bronco. Bronco wasn't firing NH or allowing NH

NYC and Japan

Dec 6, 3:16pm

I didn't actual say that, but I could see how someone could get that in reading my OP.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 3:32pm

This. I know board members and donors (not affiliated with BYU in any way). It was surprising news.

Cougstreak

Dec 6, 11:22am

Doesn't that also potentially confirm the post he claimed was hogwash?

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 11:31am

Oh brother. I'm glad you know this.

coolblue

Dec 6, 9:21am

RE: His "job" at UVA had very mixed results. And UVA found Bronco very hard to

Zoobieman

Dec 6, 10:58am

I think it just proves that he’s a great coach but a weird dude

TouchdownCougars

Dec 6, 8:27am

He’s a good coach with an enough money to not put up with the things he is sensitive about. But he is not good enough to

Zach Morris

Dec 6, 8:30am

I think this pretty much sums it up.

Roko's Basilisk

Dec 6, 8:57am

I think there's more to it than just ability.

Dec 6, 9:21am

If you’ve spent time around coaches, you find that they all claim to do it “for the young men”. The reality is, everyone

Zach Morris

Dec 6, 9:27am

I know many people that make/have made more than Bronco that I find altruistic

NYC and Japan

Dec 6, 12:54pm

I disagree. Why not get paid higher to make the same impact. He's doing both.

Yes

Dec 6, 1:19pm

I think that is a choice he has made, not one he was relegated to.

coolblue

Dec 6, 9:22am

He does turnarounds. He seems to like joining programs that need a huge

DescdentCoug

Dec 6, 8:42am

He is unquestionably a fantastic coach at rebuilding programs.

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:17am

I think I agree with a lot on here that he likes to feel that he is having a

thirdgencoug

Dec 6, 10:20am

Bronco’s thinking is this: Where can I build a program? Where will they really

WallaX2

Dec 6, 8:48am

RE: Bronco’s thinking is this: Where can I build a program? Where will they really

John Doe

Dec 6, 9:09am

Mad respect for him. He's made enough money to do what he wants.

runnincoug

Dec 6, 8:57am

That’s what I thought. Which is why I don’t understand why he left UNM

Dec 6, 12:56pm

I just hope he does well at Littlest Brother U.

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:02am

I can't cheer for him at USU, him doing well there will hurt BYU

byujag

Dec 6, 9:17am

Shame on us if we can’t outrecruit them, even in the best USU scenario.

coug92

Dec 6, 9:21am

And we will have NIL steals and coach steals, if we want them

coug92

Dec 6, 9:22am

It's the late bloomers, as byujag mentioned. Guys who we might recruit as PWOs

runnincoug

Dec 6, 9:23am

We will steal more of their early stars than we lose third string depth guys.

coug92

Dec 6, 9:31am

perhaps so. It could be really good for us if Bronco recruits LDS 2 stars...

runnincoug

Dec 6, 9:40am

PWOs will be gone with the new reduced rosters, right?

NYC and Japan

Dec 6, 12:56pm

USU can be a good LDS player farm school for BYU. Literally!

JAGA97

Dec 6, 10:08am

Great. When they prove themselves, they'll transfer to byu. USU can be the farm

Loyal2Royal

Dec 6, 10:52am

RE: Great. When they prove themselves, they'll transfer to byu. USU can be the

Jordan4024

Dec 6, 1:04pm

He did great bringing BYU out of the Crowton years so maybe he looks at this

HonestTakes

Dec 6, 9:06am

It's his career so the nice thing is you don't have to get it. It is HIS.

Las Pampas

Dec 6, 9:29am

I don’t feel a lot of his coaching decisions have much consideration beyond what

Dec 6, 9:31am

He climbed the coaching ranks and did well for himself.

Corn

Dec 6, 9:33am

My bro retired at 38. By 40 he went back to work because he was bored and wanted

Magneto

Dec 6, 9:44am

I think he still loves coaching but he hates NIL. UNM & Utah St. both help

BlueFever

Dec 6, 10:10am

He's a college coach. They live very transient lifestyles.

Spiff

Dec 6, 10:16am

He enjoys coaching and is doing it for good $ in local he likes.

ImuaKahuku

Dec 6, 10:48am

New Mexico ranches are more arid and don’t get snow like MT or UT

Dec 6, 10:49am

It just shows he thinks and values a little differently than most.

Mitty

Dec 6, 10:53am

Focus on family and qol

Dr MoBYU

Dec 6, 10:54am

Then why did he take the UNM job in the first place? He didn’t do it for the money.

Brisco

Dec 6, 11:13am

Rebuild at a school he loves. He also seems to prefer rural (Provo, Montana, UVA

NYC and Japan

Dec 6, 1:00pm

I’m surprised he’s leaving UNM already. I get that his AD is gone and that Utah is his home. But I have to believe…

Brisco

Dec 6, 11:11am

Certainly easier to justify those dirty details after year 1 than after year 2 or beyond.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 11:37am

Bronco was on the hot seat at UVA when he resigned, though

Threw and Through

Dec 6, 1:33pm

The narrative from the UVA AD herself was she tried everything she could to get

Mitty

Dec 6, 1:47pm

He clearly loves coaching. I believe he does/will have kids in the area for school, etc.

Boomcannon

Dec 6, 2:00pm

Logan is a lot closer

bigjohn

Dec 6, 3:38pm

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