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Nov 13, 2024
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DirtyWater
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That was a hard thing to do, Dad.
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Details from the arrest of the bottle thrower-
byubyu
Nov 13, 9:42am
good for Dad, better late than never. (and maybe he didn't see it)
TheRowdy
Nov 13, 9:44am
Yep. Dad is helping him face consequences for his actions, that's the right thing to do.
durandal
Nov 13, 9:57am
The dad probably realized someone else would eventually ID them, so better to
CharlottesvilleCoug
Nov 13, 10:23am
So instead we'll assume the absolute worst possible motive?
durandal
Nov 13, 10:35am
Would your kid say F Utah and throw a water bottle at people all while
Cobra Venom
Nov 13, 11:33am
I don't know. BYU has not lost to Utah since they were babies, so hard to say.
RoboKayne
Nov 13, 1:18pm
Utah fan so it isn't an assumption.
shimmy
Nov 13, 11:42am
Well - why does the son feel comfortable yelling that and throwing the bottle in
truecougster
Nov 13, 1:07pm
Why not? The punk yelled expletives at the opposing team and threw
BlueFever
Nov 13, 1:50pm
Extreme ute fandom requires a little mental illness to be in there somewhere IMO.
Knight-who-says-ni
Nov 13, 2:27pm
You may be right.
BlueFever
Nov 13, 2:42pm
What are you even talking about? This is about the father's actions, not the son's.
durandal
Nov 13, 2:54pm
If Dad had turned him in right away I would assume good intentions but since he
CameronG
Nov 13, 4:26pm
Who's to say his dad knew where the bottle landed
roadrash
Nov 13, 5:43pm
He turned him in the next day. It was 1am what did you expect?
Cougarite
Nov 13, 6:41pm
Dude - c’mon. We have no idea so let’s not say probably.
RWaters
Nov 13, 10:37am
I'd probably assume they'd never identify him. And I'm not sure that it will
fattycoug
Nov 13, 10:52am
The first part of your post I think is very plausible. I know if that was me I would be assuming that my son would be
KYU
Nov 13, 12:43pm
Yep. Someone may have told them I’m telling the police or her remarks that they
ColonelMustard
Nov 13, 12:57pm
I'm prone to giving the Dad the benefit of the doubt that he was doing the right
CougarDanger
Nov 13, 11:09am
Exactly. Did the right thing regardless of motive.
Les IsMore
Nov 13, 3:07pm
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Ripliancum
Nov 13, 11:35am
Assumed dad was giving the son the opportunity to turn himself in, then turned
Ripliancum
Nov 13, 11:36am
Good for his dad turning him in. Nice life lesson to that kid
Cougz19
Nov 13, 9:44am
Assumption: Dad is a Ute fan too. Conclusion: Class exists somewhere among them
xgbs
Nov 13, 11:00am
Many Ute fans are good people. Just hard to see that amongst all the ones who
CougarDanger
Nov 13, 11:10am
Wow. Dad called in to say his son was the suspect.
dallasbyu
Nov 13, 9:44am
Sad all around. I'm hoping that some good can come out of this for both parties.
LegitCoug
Nov 13, 9:44am
It's good to know that the culprit was apprehended and will be held accountable
EM_Puma
Nov 13, 10:01am
My wife watches TV shows as background during the day. They are all
Blue for Life
Nov 13, 12:47pm
I might have thought as my son's friend before I had seen what was happening to
EM_Puma
Nov 13, 1:19pm
Sad, on many levels.
WIGGIN
Nov 13, 9:45am
Good job Dad. Not sure about the timing and there are many things we will not
Cougar TD
Nov 13, 9:46am
This is definitely 100% speculation on my part, but the timing of it and the dad
TheNerd
Nov 13, 9:51am
Here’s some more speculation…. I wonder if the U told him you better figure out
Cougar86
Nov 13, 9:58am
Could have easily been this, either way I am glad that they are moving forward
Cougar TD
Nov 13, 10:40am
That's a lot of speculation. It wasn't widely reported until Monday. Get's
fattycoug
Nov 13, 10:54am
They may not have even known it hit someone until they heard it on the news the
Cougarite
Nov 13, 2:00pm
👏 for dad
cheezedawg
Nov 13, 9:47am
That was a hard thing to do, Dad.
DirtyWater
Nov 13, 9:50am
I'm guessing dad only turned him in when he knew he was going to get caught.
kimdaddy35
Nov 13, 9:56am
Could have also wanted to contact his attorney first as well?
RootieBoy
Nov 13, 9:58am
What’s the plan there? Hope the attorney
NanoFab Coug
Nov 13, 10:00am
You should always have a defense attorney when facing charges.
sidsie716
Nov 13, 10:17am
Are you an attorney?
sfeuz
Nov 13, 12:26pm
No. Forensic Psychologist (but I have a JD along with a PhD- joint grad program)
sidsie716
Nov 13, 2:06pm
Always consult with an attorney if you know you are about to be arrested, always
RenoCoug
Nov 13, 11:58am
The fact Dad had to do it means the son refused after Dad tried to get him to do
DirtyWater
Nov 13, 9:58am
What you are suggesting makes a lot of sense
KYU
Nov 13, 12:45pm
Yeah, I'm sure they knew that with all the video and witnesses that it would get
QBarrister
Nov 13, 9:59am
Early Sunday morning there were already reports that authorities had a good idea
bluesloth
Nov 13, 10:06am
I think it's entirely possible dad (or kid) didn't know it hit anyone until it
fattycoug
Nov 13, 10:55am
Possible, but seems unlikely. If I threw something I would watch to see where it went.
kimdaddy35
Nov 13, 12:39pm
If that was the case, how would he ever know it was his bottle that hit her?
kansascougar
Nov 13, 1:00pm
Intent irrelevant. He did a good thing.
xgbs
Nov 13, 11:01am
Kids these days don't know how to talk on phones. Esp 'suite' kids
Dataguy
Nov 13, 11:56am
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preneur
Nov 13, 10:07am
Eeek. Ouch, that would hurt, but wouldn't reflect on him in my opinion because
EM_Puma
Nov 13, 10:11am
Feel bad for Christian Gardner, who seems like a great guy
anonymous37
Nov 13, 10:26am
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ParentingNotForSissy
Nov 13, 11:57am
Maybe not his dad, but highly
Thunder
Nov 13, 10:18am
is this the Kem Gardner family? I assume it was his suite and his grandson
stan
Nov 13, 5:55pm
Pretty sure it wasn't Christian's son--he doesn't have an 18yo son iirc
Buckeye
Nov 13, 11:22am
So was it metal or plastic?
Heath Squashwell
Nov 13, 10:13am
Plastic
JuicyJam
Nov 13, 10:14am
But full - still had some heft. Very dangerous object launched from upstairs like that.
CalGTR
Nov 13, 10:27am
It says disposable water bottle.
Madam Pattirini
Nov 13, 10:32am
Right, so probably plastic, but I've seen more and more aluminum disposable water bottles at
bag
Nov 13, 10:35am
It was disposable impact 12 venues disposable water bottles are normally aluminum
KYU
Nov 13, 12:46pm
Wow won’t be hard to prove motive with what he yelled
cypresstx
Nov 13, 10:19am
What motive would they be trying to prove that would be difficult without his
SuperTank
Nov 13, 10:59am
Hate crime
mvtoro
Nov 13, 11:49am
Class A Misdemeanor is the most serious level. In addition to other aspects of sentence, I vote that his
CLCougar
Nov 13, 10:42am
He should clean the toilets with his Utah hoodie, the only thing to do with it.
Blue for Life
Nov 13, 12:51pm
The victim needs to make sure assault charges are filed and then a civil against
sfeuz
Nov 13, 1:13pm
RE: The victim needs to make sure assault charges are filed and then a civil
Blue for Life
Nov 14, 8:18am
Why so many cbers being soft on this jerk, who's mimicking the worst yewt fans.
sfeuz
Nov 13, 1:15pm
Not mimcking....HE IS ONE OF. THE WORST UTE FANS
TheHop
Nov 13, 1:21pm
Dad should have had his son make the call.
goseabass
Nov 13, 11:00am
If 18 year old refused to, you cannot exactly physically force them to.
sidsie716
Nov 13, 11:14am
I think it was wise for the dad to call. You need a chance to get your lawyer ready. Dad calls police on Sunday. Says
HarlemCoug
Nov 13, 12:27pm
This is PR driven, Dad is helping the U's image, not doing right by his son
davidsonlaw
Nov 13, 11:19am
Kid was screaming *F* BYU and throwing stuff while there with family... what a great family.
AltTabbins
Nov 13, 11:24am
Lots of great families have kids who do stupid things
Buckeye
Nov 13, 11:44am
How many of them do it right there with the family?
AltTabbins
Nov 13, 11:46am
They have money......They most likely are going to pay big time.
TheHop
Nov 13, 11:40am
The 18 year old son may not have money.
ParentingNotForSissy
Nov 13, 12:13pm
They would sue the owner of the suite tickets then.
VACOUGFAN
Nov 13, 3:31pm
Sue the program that promotes that behavior, a la Harlan (and his non-reprimand)
Brandoblueblood
Nov 13, 5:13pm
Them too. There will be plenty of parties.
VACOUGFAN
Nov 13, 7:22pm
I'm sure a plea is already in the works
Fido
Nov 13, 11:43am
Where did you get that info? Link?
kansascougar
Nov 13, 11:45am
Not overly worried about criminal prosecution. Families with Table seats have money, and she’ll get a nice piece in her
mvtoro
Nov 13, 11:50am
Good on them for calling this in, respect
RenoCoug
Nov 13, 11:56am
"Remember everyone - this kind of thing happens at
CougarLegend
Nov 13, 12:27pm
We threw pom poms at the refs at half time of a game against Utah at LES.
LeGrandBleu
Nov 13, 1:20pm
Rekt
eysikal
Nov 13, 12:33pm
Last name is familiar
The Grrinch
Nov 13, 2:40pm
Maybe grandson, someone said Dad is Christan
sfeuz
Nov 13, 4:32pm
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The Grrinch
Nov 13, 4:39pm
Wow. Big respect to the dad
zerome4sooners
Nov 13, 4:09pm
My wife thought maybe the bottle was for Cosmo, who was in the area.
sfeuz
Nov 13, 4:36pm
I guarantee he wasn’t aiming for her specifically. If he were, it would be somewhat worse, but the seriousness of an
mvtoro
Nov 13, 4:50pm
Embarrassing for Ken Garff?
Brandoblueblood
Nov 13, 5:12pm
We hear you saying F--- BYU!
davidsonlaw
Nov 14, 7:02am
Most likely Dad called police on behalf of son to avoid additional dumb behavior
kapcreations
Nov 13, 5:31pm
Maybe he'll reform and start rooting for BYU.
Blue Ghost
Nov 14, 12:20am
If he roots for BYU an he throws a water bottle at Utah's cheerleaders? I wonder
RoboKayne
Nov 14, 11:02am
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