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Oct 13, 2024
1:48:25pm

Tsisquan All-American

Leather Helmets & No Face Mask

You’d get broken noses and cuts and scrapes, but would cut way down on concussions. Less protection means you will protect you own head and neck more naturally.

As they are designed right now a football helmet is as much a weapon as it is a protection.

The answer is to go “old school”.

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Originally posted on Oct 13, 2024 at 1:48:25pm

Message modified by Tsisquan on Oct 13, 2024 at 1:48:52pm

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Tsisquan

Previous username: mdou
Bio page: Tsisquan
Joined: Jul 9, 2009
Last login: Dec 22, 2024
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I have to agree with the game commentators regarding targeting

Knight-who-says-ni Walk-on

Oct 13, 10:16am

It should simply be a 15 yard penalty. No disqualifications.

Indy Coug

Oct 13, 10:16am

How about 15 yards and 1 point is awarded to the opposing team?

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 10:34am

Not on the first offense but I’d be cool if it was on the 2nd and never carry a

MormonThug

Oct 13, 12:00pm

First targeting infraction should be a quarter ‘in the penalty box’. Subsequent

BYU'01

Oct 13, 12:06pm

That’s not the type of penalty that you have for a rule that you don’t want to get broken

KYU

Oct 13, 2:05pm

so guilty player penalty is 15 yards, the other players penalty is a concussion?

Pangare

Oct 13, 7:17pm

Yea it’s really simpl…concussions can ruin peoples lives and somebody thinks that you should get a 15 yard penalty. SMH

KYU

Oct 13, 7:23pm

No one is doing this intentionally. And I don't know that the ejections are

fattycoug

Oct 13, 10:17am

Many are still lowering and launching with the crown. They gotta be smarter.

byubyu

Oct 13, 10:19am

Some are unintentional but others are clearly not.

ManicBlue

Oct 13, 10:19am

I simply don't believe that any are intentional, really. We slow mo them and say

fattycoug

Oct 13, 10:41am

Agree. Another one to eliminate: Horsecollar rule. No one gets hurt by that

Threw and Through

Oct 13, 11:17am

RE: Agree. Another one to eliminate: Horsecollar rule. No one gets hurt by that

BlueToTheBone

Oct 13, 12:59pm

Get rid of face masking rules too. They’re silly and 100% unintentional every

AlternateShot

Oct 13, 1:07pm

Used to be a 5 yard “incidental” version and 15-yard version for grabbing and pulling or twisting with it. That works

mvtoro

Oct 13, 2:22pm

If you got rid of the facemask rule players would intentional try to grab it...

lbmango

Oct 13, 3:25pm

Turn on your sarcasm meter and turn it up to 10

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 7:04pm

Players absolutely like to hit the opponents hard. I don't think they are hoping

here's to hoping

Oct 13, 1:55pm

Oh they definitely want to knock that player out of the game. They don’t want to cause permanent injury but for th game

BYU Grounds

Oct 13, 1:59pm

Agreed. I think there needs to be graduations like roughing or running into the

IronPotato

Oct 13, 12:32pm

I wouldn't say "no one." If it was a less severe penalty, Utah would absolutely

BYUtka

Oct 13, 10:19am

Hard disagree, the rule has had a profound effect on hits

Natgasboy

Oct 13, 10:25am

Exactly, the rule changes have clearly had an effect. It will take longer.

BYU'01

Oct 13, 1:16pm

It’s dangerous and reckless. For both players. Former players have killed

SoCalCoug

Oct 13, 10:29am

But we've had this rule for a while and it still happens. Why is that? It's

fattycoug

Oct 13, 10:46am

We’ve had the rules for a while; look at highlight videos from ‘80-90s vs today

BYU'01

Oct 13, 1:21pm

it's hard to argue that it's not working. The severity of the penalty has really

kosmokramer

Oct 13, 12:31pm

Vontaze Burfict would like a word.

BringYourUltimate

Oct 13, 2:25pm

DQ is a bit much, yet does seem like more than a simple personal foul infraction

Squirt

Oct 13, 10:17am

Targeting is potentially serious. I’d vote out for 15 minutes the first

VACougMD

Oct 13, 10:18am

I think it needs to be a little different than a common unnecessary roughness

SUAVO

Oct 13, 10:18am

There should be two levels of targeting

DrewGundy

Oct 13, 10:18am

There should definitely be levels of severity. Like if the offensive player

Oct 13, 10:22am

Completely agree. They can always eject someone if they feel it was malicious

Oct 13, 10:19am

I hate trying to judge intent. Makes it way too subjective

cougaman

Oct 13, 10:23am

The point of having it be a disqualification is to prevent players from doing it

ordinary tri guy

Oct 13, 10:19am

I think anyone thinking that players intentionally do this just don't understand

fattycoug

Oct 13, 10:57am

In high school there is no automatic ejection for targeting, and I can tell you

Oct 13, 12:00pm

You make a good point.

Mitty

Oct 13, 1:13pm

From the stadium view it didn’t look that bad

RockyBalboa

Oct 13, 10:20am

In the replay his head snapped hard left, so definitely there should be a stiff penalty to targeting like that

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 10:41am

The one yesterday was totally avoidable. Don’t blame the rule and excuse the one

cougaman

Oct 13, 10:22am

How about base ejection on severity. That one was a basic

bald man

Oct 13, 10:22am

Do something like soccer yellows. Warning but a second means your out for the

Oct 13, 10:23am

It's dangerous for both players. It's tough to see ejections, but prob prudent.

rtNelson

Oct 13, 10:24am

Even a second infraction shouldn't be a full game suspension, maybe a quarter or even a series..

Coug

Oct 13, 10:25am

Just needs two types like basketball and problem solved.

OnEMoReTrY

Oct 13, 10:26am

Why? Lead with the head to the head causes

Archaea

Oct 13, 10:47am

Is ejection what is keeping it from happening, though? You think Manu simply

fattycoug

Oct 13, 10:51am

The penalty for forgetting needs to be severe.

Archaea

Oct 13, 11:28am

Players get knocked out because of plays like that…

BulldogCoug79

Oct 13, 11:03am

Make it 25 yards, with no 1/2 the distance to the goal crap, and I’m on board

AlternateShot

Oct 13, 11:18am

So if it the ball is inside the 25 yard line the penalty phase is a TD is awarded?

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 11:33am

Yes. That’s my preference. But if not that, then the 2 yard line.

AlternateShot

Oct 13, 11:38am

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ninja math

Oct 13, 12:04pm

Yellow and red card system like in soccer.

Blewis15

Oct 13, 12:24pm

I wish they would do some sort of lesser penalty a la hockey, soccer or rugby

Sircumference

Oct 13, 12:25pm

RE: I have to agree with the game commentators regarding targeting

BlueToTheBone

Oct 13, 1:02pm

It should have multiple levels of severity, not just one catch-all.

Mitty

Oct 13, 1:12pm

Leather Helmets & No Face Mask

Tsisquan

Oct 13, 1:48pm

How about, if you are guilty of targeting, then you have to sit out the same

here's to hoping

Oct 13, 1:59pm

LOL. Many players would never play again

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 2:06pm

You don't like the ejection, but what about the injured player who can't play?

here's to hoping

Oct 13, 2:43pm

I was just reacting to the part about missing the number of games as the number on the victim's jersey

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 2:51pm

And if the player injured ever ultimately perishes of cte

stonecougar

Oct 13, 2:39pm

The cannon and the ROTC are already at the game.

here's to hoping

Oct 13, 2:44pm

Hitting with the crown is prohibited to protect the tackler too as it risks

deljdc

Oct 13, 7:14pm

Just don’t lead with the helmet.

Cswilliam01

Oct 13, 3:38pm

I agree. Players simply don't have the ability in the heat of the moment to

jaba166

Oct 13, 4:50pm

Breaking the rule once can ruin a life

deljdc

Oct 13, 5:13pm

I doubt they will change it. If anything it will get more punitive.

shakarocks

Oct 13, 5:31pm

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