RE: Agree. Another one to eliminate: Horsecollar rule. No one gets hurt by that

Oct 13, 2024
12:59:58pm

BlueToTheBone Walk-on

A kid on my son's team was out of school for over three months because of a severe concussion from a horse collar. Probably rare but it does happen.

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I have to agree with the game commentators regarding targeting

Knight-who-says-ni Walk-on

Oct 13, 10:16am

It should simply be a 15 yard penalty. No disqualifications.

Indy Coug

Oct 13, 10:16am

How about 15 yards and 1 point is awarded to the opposing team?

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 10:34am

Not on the first offense but I’d be cool if it was on the 2nd and never carry a

MormonThug

Oct 13, 12:00pm

First targeting infraction should be a quarter ‘in the penalty box’. Subsequent

BYU'01

Oct 13, 12:06pm

That’s not the type of penalty that you have for a rule that you don’t want to get broken

KYU

Oct 13, 2:05pm

so guilty player penalty is 15 yards, the other players penalty is a concussion?

Pangare

Oct 13, 7:17pm

Yea it’s really simpl…concussions can ruin peoples lives and somebody thinks that you should get a 15 yard penalty. SMH

KYU

Oct 13, 7:23pm

No one is doing this intentionally. And I don't know that the ejections are

fattycoug

Oct 13, 10:17am

Many are still lowering and launching with the crown. They gotta be smarter.

byubyu

Oct 13, 10:19am

Some are unintentional but others are clearly not.

ManicBlue

Oct 13, 10:19am

I simply don't believe that any are intentional, really. We slow mo them and say

fattycoug

Oct 13, 10:41am

Agree. Another one to eliminate: Horsecollar rule. No one gets hurt by that

Threw and Through

Oct 13, 11:17am

RE: Agree. Another one to eliminate: Horsecollar rule. No one gets hurt by that

BlueToTheBone

Oct 13, 12:59pm

Get rid of face masking rules too. They’re silly and 100% unintentional every

AlternateShot

Oct 13, 1:07pm

Used to be a 5 yard “incidental” version and 15-yard version for grabbing and pulling or twisting with it. That works

mvtoro

Oct 13, 2:22pm

If you got rid of the facemask rule players would intentional try to grab it...

lbmango

Oct 13, 3:25pm

Turn on your sarcasm meter and turn it up to 10

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 7:04pm

Players absolutely like to hit the opponents hard. I don't think they are hoping

here's to hoping

Oct 13, 1:55pm

Oh they definitely want to knock that player out of the game. They don’t want to cause permanent injury but for th game

BYU Grounds

Oct 13, 1:59pm

Agreed. I think there needs to be graduations like roughing or running into the

IronPotato

Oct 13, 12:32pm

I wouldn't say "no one." If it was a less severe penalty, Utah would absolutely

BYUtka

Oct 13, 10:19am

Hard disagree, the rule has had a profound effect on hits

Natgasboy

Oct 13, 10:25am

Exactly, the rule changes have clearly had an effect. It will take longer.

BYU'01

Oct 13, 1:16pm

It’s dangerous and reckless. For both players. Former players have killed

SoCalCoug

Oct 13, 10:29am

But we've had this rule for a while and it still happens. Why is that? It's

fattycoug

Oct 13, 10:46am

We’ve had the rules for a while; look at highlight videos from ‘80-90s vs today

BYU'01

Oct 13, 1:21pm

it's hard to argue that it's not working. The severity of the penalty has really

kosmokramer

Oct 13, 12:31pm

Vontaze Burfict would like a word.

BringYourUltimate

Oct 13, 2:25pm

DQ is a bit much, yet does seem like more than a simple personal foul infraction

Squirt

Oct 13, 10:17am

Targeting is potentially serious. I’d vote out for 15 minutes the first

VACougMD

Oct 13, 10:18am

I think it needs to be a little different than a common unnecessary roughness

SUAVO

Oct 13, 10:18am

There should be two levels of targeting

DrewGundy

Oct 13, 10:18am

There should definitely be levels of severity. Like if the offensive player

BYU Sportz Fan

Oct 13, 10:22am

Completely agree. They can always eject someone if they feel it was malicious

Crowd Factor

Oct 13, 10:19am

I hate trying to judge intent. Makes it way too subjective

cougaman

Oct 13, 10:23am

The point of having it be a disqualification is to prevent players from doing it

ordinary tri guy

Oct 13, 10:19am

I think anyone thinking that players intentionally do this just don't understand

fattycoug

Oct 13, 10:57am

In high school there is no automatic ejection for targeting, and I can tell you

DanSmith...BYU

Oct 13, 12:00pm

You make a good point.

Mitty

Oct 13, 1:13pm

From the stadium view it didn’t look that bad

RockyBalboa

Oct 13, 10:20am

In the replay his head snapped hard left, so definitely there should be a stiff penalty to targeting like that

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 10:41am

The one yesterday was totally avoidable. Don’t blame the rule and excuse the one

cougaman

Oct 13, 10:22am

How about base ejection on severity. That one was a basic

bald man

Oct 13, 10:22am

Do something like soccer yellows. Warning but a second means your out for the

rivercitycoug

Oct 13, 10:23am

It's dangerous for both players. It's tough to see ejections, but prob prudent.

rtNelson

Oct 13, 10:24am

Even a second infraction shouldn't be a full game suspension, maybe a quarter or even a series..

Coug

Oct 13, 10:25am

Just needs two types like basketball and problem solved.

OnEMoReTrY

Oct 13, 10:26am

Why? Lead with the head to the head causes

Archaea

Oct 13, 10:47am

Is ejection what is keeping it from happening, though? You think Manu simply

fattycoug

Oct 13, 10:51am

The penalty for forgetting needs to be severe.

Archaea

Oct 13, 11:28am

Players get knocked out because of plays like that…

BulldogCoug79

Oct 13, 11:03am

Make it 25 yards, with no 1/2 the distance to the goal crap, and I’m on board

AlternateShot

Oct 13, 11:18am

So if it the ball is inside the 25 yard line the penalty phase is a TD is awarded?

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 11:33am

Yes. That’s my preference. But if not that, then the 2 yard line.

AlternateShot

Oct 13, 11:38am

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ninja math

Oct 13, 12:04pm

Yellow and red card system like in soccer.

Blewis15

Oct 13, 12:24pm

I wish they would do some sort of lesser penalty a la hockey, soccer or rugby

Sircumference

Oct 13, 12:25pm

RE: I have to agree with the game commentators regarding targeting

BlueToTheBone

Oct 13, 1:02pm

It should have multiple levels of severity, not just one catch-all.

Mitty

Oct 13, 1:12pm

Leather Helmets & No Face Mask

Tsisquan

Oct 13, 1:48pm

How about, if you are guilty of targeting, then you have to sit out the same

here's to hoping

Oct 13, 1:59pm

LOL. Many players would never play again

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 2:06pm

You don't like the ejection, but what about the injured player who can't play?

here's to hoping

Oct 13, 2:43pm

I was just reacting to the part about missing the number of games as the number on the victim's jersey

Knight-who-says-ni

Oct 13, 2:51pm

And if the player injured ever ultimately perishes of cte

stonecougar

Oct 13, 2:39pm

The cannon and the ROTC are already at the game.

here's to hoping

Oct 13, 2:44pm

Hitting with the crown is prohibited to protect the tackler too as it risks

deljdc

Oct 13, 7:14pm

Just don’t lead with the helmet.

Cswilliam01

Oct 13, 3:38pm

I agree. Players simply don't have the ability in the heat of the moment to

jaba166

Oct 13, 4:50pm

Breaking the rule once can ruin a life

deljdc

Oct 13, 5:13pm

I doubt they will change it. If anything it will get more punitive.

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