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Jul 23, 2024
4:15:50pm

cougarfan84 Political Junky

And not only is it a crapshoot, many times one service will have a QB as a

4 or 5 star guy and another will have him as a 3-star guy. This was even more common back in the day when high school recruiting wasn't as big of an "industry" as it is now. It's one of the reasons why I have a hard time comparing recruiting of today to how things worked 25+ years ago.

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The last time BYU signed a four-star level QB out of HS was 2012- Tanner Mangum

nova_coug_fan

Jul 23, 2:43pm

What about Jacob Conover?

BYU Fan

Jul 23, 2:45pm

247 only gave him an 84 rating

nova_coug_fan

Jul 23, 2:47pm

It looks like ESPN had him listed with an 84 rating and a 4-star

BYU Fan

Jul 23, 2:51pm

He was an 86 with 247. He was listed as an 84 transfer.

kimdaddy35

Jul 23, 2:53pm

You're looking at his xfer rating, not his HS rating

stansburycoug

Jul 23, 2:57pm

86 was his 247 rating, but his 247 Composite was .9006 which is 4-star.

jreid191

Jul 23, 3:22pm

Not sure I call it "lucky" signing two back to back qbs that vastly

cougarfann888

Jul 23, 2:52pm

Then whoever the QB whisperer was that found Hall and Wilson is gone

BYU Fan

Jul 23, 2:53pm

Bronco's staff Hall, Wilson was all Grimes. There is no common denominator

stansburycoug

Jul 23, 3:05pm

ZW has been mediocre to bad against good competition his entire career.

CallSign

Jul 23, 11:27pm

Wilson and Hall were both better than their ratings. But Baylor Romney is a good

kimdaddy35

Jul 23, 2:56pm

I disagree with your statement that BYU routinely signed high-level QB's out of

cougarfan84

Jul 23, 3:42pm

I am thinking further back- for instance, 2001-2004

nova_coug_fan

Jul 23, 3:46pm

Brandon wasn't a 4 star, however Jason Munns was

stansburycoug

Jul 23, 3:49pm

And not only is it a crapshoot, many times one service will have a QB as a

cougarfan84

Jul 23, 4:15pm

Yes, it is undoubtedly better today

nova_coug_fan

Jul 23, 4:20pm

Brandon Doman was definitely not a 4-star QB. Engemann was class of 96. No clue

cougarfan84

Jul 23, 4:04pm

You sure about Doman?

nova_coug_fan

Jul 23, 4:20pm

He was a heck of a HS QB - in a system that ran the triple option and he wasn't

cougarfan84

Jul 23, 10:30pm

We have always developed good QBs over time.

Jul 23, 4:41pm

Wilson, Hall and Conover were all top 1000 recruits (by composite)

krindorr

Jul 23, 5:39pm

Top 1000 is a pretty low bar.

kimdaddy35

Jul 23, 8:20pm

The likely hood of a 4-5 star QB staying and not playing within 2 years is

bookofdaniel

Jul 23, 7:08pm

We need a real qb coach

crm48

Jul 23, 8:52pm

It's about the QBs. Here's a list of seasons (2000 and beyond) where a not top-1000 QB had heavy usage

krindorr

Jul 23, 11:21pm

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