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Feb 18, 2019
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Oranje
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Nope. I'd rather stay indy or join the Big 12.
At this point I'm also interested in seeing what happens with the American, whose markets overall are just as good if not better than the Pac 12, and has been clearly better in football and basketball the last two years.
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Arizona sports radio talked on Thursday just how bad Pac 12 basketball is.
Oranje
2/18/19 9:25am
I'm interested to find out why the PAC-12 has been struggling
Crazy Duck
2/18/19 9:27am
Their best program in football and basketball got caught cheating.
byubyu
2/18/19 9:28am
There has to be more than that. It's a pretty deep conference.
Crazy Duck
2/18/19 9:34am
Just some theories they have thrown out there the last few years:
Oranje
2/18/19 9:54am
Demographic changes
TomPetty
2/18/19 12:47pm
You could begin by looking at the really bad coaches who have been in the Pac-12
wcj99
2/18/19 9:42pm
Th south division has had the same problem in football
puntersarepeople
2/19/19 6:58am
The North Division has been more stable, but even Oregon has had a ton of
wcj99
2/19/19 7:15am
Not just the past couple years
BYU '80
2/18/19 10:29pm
I think if BYU played a Pac-12 schedule this year that we would be competing for
Dakota Cougar
2/18/19 9:28am
We might still have a shot at first honestly
puntersarepeople
2/18/19 11:50am
Here's the measuring stick for Cougar fans but don't know
Snake Dog
2/18/19 3:45pm
Considering 7 teams are currently within 2 losses and "battling for 2nd place"
James Halpert
2/18/19 4:00pm
Let me say it a different way
Snake Dog
2/18/19 6:49pm
We could absolutely be in second place in the PAC 12
puntersarepeople
2/18/19 6:58pm
Or how BYU destroyed the third place team on a neutral court
BYU '80
2/18/19 10:30pm
Or how BYU melted down against San Fran on home court.
Snake Dog
2/22/19 6:39am
USF is probably better than anyone in the pac but uw
BYU '80
2/22/19 11:39am
Come on man
Snake Dog
2/24/19 9:37pm
You’re wrong. USF is more of a bubble team than any in the PAC
puntersarepeople
2/25/19 2:20pm
Yep, it's a terrible conference. Wanna trade places?
neboutefan
2/18/19 9:29am
Nope. I'd rather stay indy or join the Big 12.
Oranje
2/18/19 9:35am
Out of the P5 conferences it's the worst
Crazy Duck
2/18/19 9:35am
Wrong, it's the PAC12 by far. However, I agree it's 10x better than B-league
blackshirts
2/18/19 1:54pm
Yes we would trade in a heartbeat
cwilke1
2/18/19 9:42am
To be a shoe-in into post season? Sure, we don't mind squashing a few cupcakes.
Division Bell
2/18/19 9:56am
Very common response from utes. That’s all you got?
BYU '80
2/18/19 10:31pm
And yet the "conference of champions" will get 3 or 4 teams into the tourney...
Coug
2/18/19 9:31am
The Pac-12 will not get 3-4 teams in the tourney this year. I think it's safe
Dakota Cougar
2/18/19 9:33am
I think they get 1 maybe 2 this year
Crazy Duck
2/18/19 9:34am
Well it can't be 1... cause the conference is guaranteed 2 spots
Coug
2/18/19 9:59am
Um, no conference has 2 auto bids. Only the conference tournament champion.
Oranje
2/18/19 10:01am
RE: Um, no conference has 2 auto bids. Only the conference tournament champion.
Dakota Cougar
2/18/19 10:03am
Touche, and awesome McBain reference.
Oranje
2/18/19 10:05am
Did you read my post?
Oranje
2/18/19 9:37am
why do people respond without reading?
Mayor of Cougartown
2/18/19 9:41am
They call themselves the “Conference of Champions” because across all sports,
garyfan
2/18/19 9:42am
These are list produce by the PAC 12 itself, and slightly suspect. They UW as
Lieutenant America
2/18/19 9:53am
So you’re disputing the fact that the P12 has far more national titles than the
garyfan
2/18/19 9:54am
yeah the olympic sports that no one cares about. YAY!!Cross country and swimming
Mayor of Cougartown
2/18/19 9:56am
Sure, but that’s a weird comment for a board that celebrates BYU’s success
garyfan
2/18/19 10:08am
Sure, but I don't see us airing commercials during football and basketball games
Oranje
2/18/19 11:19am
Just because you are fixated on those 2 sports doesn’t mean they have to be.
garyfan
2/18/19 11:36am
I would say my area of expertise is volleyball.
Oranje
2/18/19 11:49am
Particularly fans of teams who wish they could be in the conference.
garyfan
2/18/19 11:55am
I did grad school at Arizona State. I don't want us in that conference.
Oranje
2/18/19 12:06pm
So you think Indy/WCC > P12?
garyfan
2/18/19 12:16pm
For us specifically right now? Yes.
Oranje
2/18/19 1:00pm
LOL. Ok, sure.
garyfan
2/18/19 3:26pm
volleyball both men and women sell out the smith fieldhouse.
Mayor of Cougartown
2/18/19 2:02pm
I do not do that.
Mayor of Cougartown
2/18/19 2:02pm
There's actually a fairly straightforward path to 2 bids for the Pac-12. Wash is
James Halpert
2/18/19 10:08am
The Wildcat’s mediocre year is an aberration though
Croweater
2/18/19 10:48am
If Sean Miller survives then yes. But...
Oranje
2/18/19 11:22am
They haven’t even been sanctioned for that scandal yet
BYU '80
2/18/19 10:33pm
Less so than it once was. This will be the 3rd time since 2010 that Arizona
Gentleman Stan
2/20/19 12:58am
I just dont see the a big $ conference only getting in 1 team - hope to be wrong
BYUfan92
2/18/19 11:46am
I have a theory on why the conference is so bad, in case you are wondering...
lilpenny
2/18/19 1:06pm
BYU has some market share? Other than that lame comment I agree with you
BYU '80
2/18/19 10:34pm
And yet the WCC is rated below the P12 last I saw. Probably due to bottom teams
Bob Vance
2/18/19 1:56pm
The WCC and Pac-12 each have one sub 250 team (Cal and Portland). The WCC has
Gentleman Stan
2/18/19 2:10pm
Okay and the pac 12 has 10 teams in the top 115. The WCC only has 5.
RdF3
2/18/19 4:32pm
Right. The WCC is much stronger at the top. The WCC has 30% of its teams in the
Gentleman Stan
2/18/19 6:58pm
I’ll bet a JCWs meal they get 2 in. All because they are the
StalwartBraveTrue
2/18/19 9:30pm
"Conference of Champions." I can't even listen to Bill Walton during a Pac 12
Boomcannon
2/19/19 4:41am
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