I think Leavitt and Retzlaff are the same, but the Baylor QB will be the best.

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Jan 8, 2025
5:12:22pm

2FarGone No One of Consequence

I think Leavitt and Retzlaff are the same, but the Baylor QB will be the best.

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POLL: Who should be 2025 Preseason Big 12 favorites?

arizonacougarfan

Jan 8, 4:49pm

I bet pre season polls are close with maybe ASU in front and BYU, KSU and ISU in some order

byuTX

Jan 8, 4:51pm

ASU is losing Tyson and Skattebo.

BYU '80

Jan 8, 5:01pm

Their rush D is good, but agreed—losing Scattebo and Tyson is huge

reddead

Jan 8, 5:02pm

Tyson is coming back

arizonacougarfan

Jan 8, 5:04pm

Surprising. Probably due to injury recovery.

BYU '80

Jan 8, 5:26pm

Scateboo gone hurts them for sure. Leavitt is a great QB and the press are kind of lazy.

byuTX

Jan 8, 5:07pm

Leavitt isn’t great yet. He was bad against Texas outside of a 62 yard throw

BYU '80

Jan 8, 5:27pm

Comment below

byuTX

Jan 8, 5:51pm

Agreed that this is likely what they will be. What they *should* be is another q

reddead

Jan 8, 5:05pm

And I failed to notice the OP was asking “should” so in that case BYU probably should be but there are arguments for

byuTX

Jan 8, 5:08pm

What makes you think ASU would be first without Skattebo?

2FarGone

Jan 8, 5:07pm

I read OP as who “will be” not “should” so my bad. Having said that (lol), Leavitt is significantly better than JR and

byuTX

Jan 8, 5:10pm

I think Leavitt and Retzlaff are the same, but the Baylor QB will be the best.

2FarGone

Jan 8, 5:12pm

As people, runners or in grit? JR wins easily. As passers? It’s not even close-Leavitt is hands down better. If JR

byuTX

Jan 8, 5:14pm

Without Skattebo lets see Leavitt as a passer

BYU '80

Jan 8, 5:28pm

His QBR of 70 was certainly better than JR’s 31 against a much better D and is a significantly better passer overall.

byuTX

Jan 8, 5:50pm

Leavitt is also 13 points better in pass efficiency for 2024 and is 9th nationally in QBR (JR is 61st). Not close IMO

byuTX

Jan 8, 5:53pm

ASU is losing their main offensive threat.

Benfica1

Jan 8, 4:56pm

I bet ASU will get picked to win it, but not by a huge margin.

dut99002

Jan 8, 6:47pm

Yep, parity w/in the B12 isn't good for the playoffs. The B12 doesn't have a

Benfica1

Jan 8, 7:52pm

Maybe starting to make a difference by the end. Everyone knew MWC > Big East

reddead

9:01am

Utah at #9 is too low. They now have some good offensive coaches.

Jan 8, 4:57pm

KW has yet to find an OC he can't screw up.

Emmett Fitz-Hume

Jan 8, 5:40pm

My money is on Texas Tech. They took positive steps this year and recruited

reddead

Jan 8, 5:04pm

I also think BYU should (and will) get a ton of love

reddead

Jan 8, 5:06pm

1. BYU 2. Iowa State 3. Baylor

2FarGone

Jan 8, 5:11pm

Maybe Baylor.

BlueVU

Jan 8, 5:20pm

Did anyone end up transferring in conference? Would be tough if someone shared our playbook, calls with their new team

byuTX

Jan 8, 5:56pm

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