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Dec 11, 2024
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Junior Deputy
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Hagen and Phillips, at least, have
both shown they will be #1 WRs before their time in Provo is up. They both played as freshmen in stacked WR rooms.
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BYU moving in the transfer portal…GOOD! We need to take advantage of momentum
Lombardi
12/11/24 10:04am
Shore up the trenches first, then everything else is gravy
2FarGone
12/11/24 10:06am
We desperately need some proven talent on the DL.
mudpupper
12/11/24 10:27am
Absolutely
TNT
12/11/24 11:14am
Batty, Mangelson and Nelson were tough, rugged guys. B12 RBs going to test us
Lombardi
12/11/24 12:36pm
If we take them from Utah, we get the added benefit of taking them from Utah.
Dryfire
12/11/24 3:15pm
That's the Detroit Lions recipe for success - invested a lot in the lines
CougarGregor
12/11/24 12:54pm
Always. Trenches are the difference between good and great.
Ironhide
12/11/24 2:41pm
The only player I want at this point is Ryder Lyons...
Coug
12/11/24 10:09am
I want DL and OL every year. Plus Lyons.... I want all of it!
Cougar TD
12/11/24 10:11am
RE: I want DL and OL every year. Plus Lyons.... I want all of it!
Cougero
12/11/24 12:34pm
RE: I want DL and OL every year. Plus Lyons.... I want all of it!
OGSuperfan
12/11/24 3:41pm
RE: I want DL and OL every year. Plus Lyons.... I want all of it!
hamaca
12/11/24 4:50pm
+ his brother Walker "Texas Ranger" Lyons!
Captain Stubing
12/11/24 10:13am
We probably don’t have enough money with how much we’re paying Dybantsa
CaliforniaCougar22
12/11/24 10:25am
I think our WR group is in good shape: Marion, JoJo, Parker, Hagen, McKenzie
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:10am
I don’t think any of those are a solid 1 or even 2. They are solid 3s. We need 1-2 alphas.
Haysom Till
12/11/24 10:12am
Chase?
RGGeemer
12/11/24 10:13am
Said he is going to go NFL, but that was a while ago.
Ycrazy
12/11/24 10:15am
Even Chase is a great #2. It would be awesome to have a healthy Puka for example
runnincoug
12/11/24 10:15am
- says every NFL team in history
Gustav
12/11/24 10:24am
true. perhaps unrealistic expectations.
runnincoug
12/11/24 10:34am
Nah. You need to shoot even higher. Prime megatron and prime Randy Moss
Reasonable1
12/11/24 11:56am
If he stayed ya he’d be a great Wr1 but he said he’s out last I heard.
Haysom Till
12/11/24 10:34am
Hes coming back
RGGeemer
12/14/24 7:57am
I think Hagen will develop into a 1. Maybe not next year, but the year after
LifeLongLakerFan
12/11/24 10:14am
No doubt about it Hagen has WR1 written all over him. The problem is this poster sees these guys as they are and not as
kimdaddy35
12/11/24 10:22am
The problem is this poster sees things as they aren’t and lives on hopium and a prayer that dudes will suddenly trans
Haysom Till
12/11/24 10:37am
By "this poster" I assume you're referring to yourself?
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:41am
"This poster" pays attention to what coaches say (raves about Cody and how
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:45am
I know you are really young and don't get it. That is ok. I'm guessing you don't have
kimdaddy35
12/11/24 12:11pm
It's an odd blind spot and some circular logic: "there aren't any 'alphas' bc
oxcoug
12/11/24 12:57pm
People who overuse “Beta” when addressing true alphas are soy boys 100% of the time.
Haysom Till
12/11/24 4:39pm
That post reads like:
kimdaddy35
12/11/24 6:38pm
RE: That post reads like:
Haysom Till
12/11/24 10:44pm
Hagen is literally the most highly recruited / sought after WR commit in our
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:16am
Thank you, that's a good reminder!
runnincoug
12/11/24 10:19am
Obviously they have to show it on the field but Hagen / JoJo are evaluated as
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:24am
Re Jojo, IMO, he needs to put in some serious time with the JUGS machine to
LifeLongLakerFan
12/11/24 10:39am
Your last line is hogwash.
Haysom Till
12/11/24 10:38am
Nah. They are proven to the coaches they play for. The fact that they have five
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:54am
Jojo doesn’t have the hands to be a great WR
I'mBatman
12/11/24 11:12am
JoJo had fewer drops per ten targets this year than Lassiter. And he's not
oxcoug
12/11/24 12:59pm
They both had too many drops
I'mBatman
12/11/24 10:04pm
None of those is a proven alpha though.
BYU '80
12/11/24 10:15am
Neither was Chase entering last season. And he is not as fast as any of them.
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:16am
His numbers from last year to this are very similar.
BYU '80
12/11/24 10:28am
Yeah - he committed in 2019. 2024 is his fourth roster year in the program.
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:31am
I would argue Roberts was an alpha in 2023
BYU '80
12/11/24 10:35am
He was on the 2021 roster. 2023 was his third roster year.
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:42am
Redshirted in 2021 due to surgery
RGGeemer
12/11/24 10:47am
Yes. Like I said, 2023 was his third year in the program. In 2021 he was in the
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:51am
Just saying he's obviously not going to be an alpha if he can't play. Silly
RGGeemer
12/11/24 10:53am
No one is until given the opportunity.
Junior Deputy
12/11/24 10:20am
You can have a sense. Players don’t go from a few catches to alpha in
BYU '80
12/11/24 10:25am
Like Chase going from 4 catches for 12 yards and zero TDs in 2022 to 42 grabs
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:28am
He had 22 catches and over 400 yards in 2022
BYU '80
12/11/24 10:30am
I was mixing in rushing stats - so in his second roster year in the program he
oxcoug
12/11/24 10:34am
I’m not sure where you are seeing 2021 as rostered year.
BYU '80
12/11/24 10:37am
Yes, playing as a RS freshman coming off major surgery and behind Puka Nacua and
RGGeemer
12/11/24 10:58am
Hagen and Phillips, at least, have
Junior Deputy
12/11/24 10:40am
How many programs have a proven alpha WR going into each season? Few.
LifeLongLakerFan
12/11/24 10:35am
I would say not a few. A decent number.
BYU '80
12/11/24 10:38am
I think you are over-estimating. And, I see similar potential in Hagen, Phillips
LifeLongLakerFan
12/11/24 11:09am
Parker Kingston too. I think JoJo will be a legit #1 and Marion is a legit #2
boctabulous
12/11/24 10:57am
By the time the spring portal hits, we will have a lot more players enter the portal from BYU than we sign
BYUMizzou
12/11/24 10:30am
yep. We need to sign starters, not depth. That's why Isaac W. doesn't make sense
runnincoug
12/11/24 10:37am
So you don't like any high school recruits? That's basically what Wilson is.
Lance71
12/11/24 11:23am
Except he only has 3 years of eligibility. And except we've seen him play in FBS football, and he wasn't good.
BYUMizzou
12/11/24 11:35am
Yep, he'd have 3 years and no redshirt left. Evidence would indicate he's QB2
runnincoug
12/11/24 11:52am
He does have a redshirt. He has 4 years to play 3.
Lance71
12/11/24 12:09pm
Right, sorry, I mean he wouldn't get to play until after his redshirt.
runnincoug
12/11/24 12:31pm
He was recruited by a lot of really good teams. If he isn't good enough, he
Lance71
12/11/24 12:36pm
So take up a roster spot while rehabbing so we can cut wakely, harper, & others?
runnincoug
12/11/24 12:53pm
If he comes to BYU, that means the coaches disagree with you.
Lance71
12/11/24 12:56pm
A-Rod said on signing day that going forward that the norm would be to have 4 QBs on roster. At the most in an
BYUMizzou
12/11/24 1:07pm
Any, or all of them other than Hillstead and Lugo.
Lance71
12/11/24 1:25pm
I've heard Trey is impressive in camp. Who knows.
runnincoug
12/11/24 3:02pm
I hope we'd keep a spot for Kenny, the guy signed for this year's class.
runnincoug
12/11/24 3:02pm
Obviously. And my posting history would indicate I support the coaches.
runnincoug
12/11/24 3:01pm
Does anyone know exactly how many roster spots we have in light of the new
rockhound
12/11/24 10:32am
I doubt we add another QB. With the new 105 limit we probably stick with 4 or so
arcawley
12/11/24 2:02pm
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