Yes. Like I said, 2023 was his third year in the program. In 2021 he was in the

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Dec 11, 2024
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BYU moving in the transfer portal…GOOD! We need to take advantage of momentum

Lombardi

Dec 11, 10:04am

Shore up the trenches first, then everything else is gravy

2FarGone

Dec 11, 10:06am

We desperately need some proven talent on the DL.

mudpupper

Dec 11, 10:27am

Absolutely

TNT

Dec 11, 11:14am

Batty, Mangelson and Nelson were tough, rugged guys. B12 RBs going to test us

Lombardi

Dec 11, 12:36pm

If we take them from Utah, we get the added benefit of taking them from Utah.

Dryfire

Dec 11, 3:15pm

That's the Detroit Lions recipe for success - invested a lot in the lines

CougarGregor

Dec 11, 12:54pm

Always. Trenches are the difference between good and great.

Ironhide

Dec 11, 2:41pm

The only player I want at this point is Ryder Lyons...

Coug

Dec 11, 10:09am

I want DL and OL every year. Plus Lyons.... I want all of it!

Cougar TD

Dec 11, 10:11am

RE: I want DL and OL every year. Plus Lyons.... I want all of it!

Cougero

Dec 11, 12:34pm

RE: I want DL and OL every year. Plus Lyons.... I want all of it!

OGSuperfan

Dec 11, 3:41pm

RE: I want DL and OL every year. Plus Lyons.... I want all of it!

hamaca

Dec 11, 4:50pm

+ his brother Walker "Texas Ranger" Lyons!

Captain Stubing

Dec 11, 10:13am

We probably don’t have enough money with how much we’re paying Dybantsa

CaliforniaCougar22

Dec 11, 10:25am

I think our WR group is in good shape: Marion, JoJo, Parker, Hagen, McKenzie

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:10am

I don’t think any of those are a solid 1 or even 2. They are solid 3s. We need 1-2 alphas.

Haysom Till

Dec 11, 10:12am

Chase?

RGGeemer

Dec 11, 10:13am

Said he is going to go NFL, but that was a while ago.

Ycrazy

Dec 11, 10:15am

Even Chase is a great #2. It would be awesome to have a healthy Puka for example

runnincoug

Dec 11, 10:15am

- says every NFL team in history

Gustav

Dec 11, 10:24am

true. perhaps unrealistic expectations.

runnincoug

Dec 11, 10:34am

Nah. You need to shoot even higher. Prime megatron and prime Randy Moss

Reasonable1

Dec 11, 11:56am

If he stayed ya he’d be a great Wr1 but he said he’s out last I heard.

Haysom Till

Dec 11, 10:34am

I think Hagen will develop into a 1. Maybe not next year, but the year after

LifeLongLakerFan

Dec 11, 10:14am

No doubt about it Hagen has WR1 written all over him. The problem is this poster sees these guys as they are and not as

kimdaddy35

Dec 11, 10:22am

The problem is this poster sees things as they aren’t and lives on hopium and a prayer that dudes will suddenly trans

Haysom Till

Dec 11, 10:37am

By "this poster" I assume you're referring to yourself?

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:41am

"This poster" pays attention to what coaches say (raves about Cody and how

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:45am

I know you are really young and don't get it. That is ok. I'm guessing you don't have

kimdaddy35

Dec 11, 12:11pm

It's an odd blind spot and some circular logic: "there aren't any 'alphas' bc

oxcoug

Dec 11, 12:57pm

People who overuse “Beta” when addressing true alphas are soy boys 100% of the time.

Haysom Till

Dec 11, 4:39pm

That post reads like:

kimdaddy35

Dec 11, 6:38pm

RE: That post reads like:

Haysom Till

Dec 11, 10:44pm

Hagen is literally the most highly recruited / sought after WR commit in our

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:16am

Thank you, that's a good reminder!

runnincoug

Dec 11, 10:19am

Obviously they have to show it on the field but Hagen / JoJo are evaluated as

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:24am

Re Jojo, IMO, he needs to put in some serious time with the JUGS machine to

LifeLongLakerFan

Dec 11, 10:39am

Your last line is hogwash.

Haysom Till

Dec 11, 10:38am

Nah. They are proven to the coaches they play for. The fact that they have five

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:54am

Jojo doesn’t have the hands to be a great WR

I'mBatman

Dec 11, 11:12am

JoJo had fewer drops per ten targets this year than Lassiter. And he's not

oxcoug

Dec 11, 12:59pm

They both had too many drops

I'mBatman

Dec 11, 10:04pm

None of those is a proven alpha though.

BYU '80

Dec 11, 10:15am

Neither was Chase entering last season. And he is not as fast as any of them.

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:16am

His numbers from last year to this are very similar.

BYU '80

Dec 11, 10:28am

Yeah - he committed in 2019. 2024 is his fourth roster year in the program.

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:31am

I would argue Roberts was an alpha in 2023

BYU '80

Dec 11, 10:35am

He was on the 2021 roster. 2023 was his third roster year.

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:42am

Redshirted in 2021 due to surgery

RGGeemer

Dec 11, 10:47am

Yes. Like I said, 2023 was his third year in the program. In 2021 he was in the

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:51am

Just saying he's obviously not going to be an alpha if he can't play. Silly

RGGeemer

Dec 11, 10:53am

No one is until given the opportunity.

Junior Deputy

Dec 11, 10:20am

You can have a sense. Players don’t go from a few catches to alpha in

BYU '80

Dec 11, 10:25am

Like Chase going from 4 catches for 12 yards and zero TDs in 2022 to 42 grabs

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:28am

He had 22 catches and over 400 yards in 2022

BYU '80

Dec 11, 10:30am

I was mixing in rushing stats - so in his second roster year in the program he

oxcoug

Dec 11, 10:34am

I’m not sure where you are seeing 2021 as rostered year.

BYU '80

Dec 11, 10:37am

Yes, playing as a RS freshman coming off major surgery and behind Puka Nacua and

RGGeemer

Dec 11, 10:58am

Hagen and Phillips, at least, have

Junior Deputy

Dec 11, 10:40am

How many programs have a proven alpha WR going into each season? Few.

LifeLongLakerFan

Dec 11, 10:35am

I would say not a few. A decent number.

BYU '80

Dec 11, 10:38am

I think you are over-estimating. And, I see similar potential in Hagen, Phillips

LifeLongLakerFan

Dec 11, 11:09am

Parker Kingston too. I think JoJo will be a legit #1 and Marion is a legit #2

boctabulous

Dec 11, 10:57am

By the time the spring portal hits, we will have a lot more players enter the portal from BYU than we sign

BYUMizzou

Dec 11, 10:30am

yep. We need to sign starters, not depth. That's why Isaac W. doesn't make sense

runnincoug

Dec 11, 10:37am

So you don't like any high school recruits? That's basically what Wilson is.

Lance71

Dec 11, 11:23am

Except he only has 3 years of eligibility. And except we've seen him play in FBS football, and he wasn't good.

BYUMizzou

Dec 11, 11:35am

Yep, he'd have 3 years and no redshirt left. Evidence would indicate he's QB2

runnincoug

Dec 11, 11:52am

He does have a redshirt. He has 4 years to play 3.

Lance71

Dec 11, 12:09pm

Right, sorry, I mean he wouldn't get to play until after his redshirt.

runnincoug

Dec 11, 12:31pm

He was recruited by a lot of really good teams. If he isn't good enough, he

Lance71

Dec 11, 12:36pm

So take up a roster spot while rehabbing so we can cut wakely, harper, & others?

runnincoug

Dec 11, 12:53pm

If he comes to BYU, that means the coaches disagree with you.

Lance71

Dec 11, 12:56pm

A-Rod said on signing day that going forward that the norm would be to have 4 QBs on roster. At the most in an

BYUMizzou

Dec 11, 1:07pm

Any, or all of them other than Hillstead and Lugo.

Lance71

Dec 11, 1:25pm

I've heard Trey is impressive in camp. Who knows.

runnincoug

Dec 11, 3:02pm

I hope we'd keep a spot for Kenny, the guy signed for this year's class.

runnincoug

Dec 11, 3:02pm

Obviously. And my posting history would indicate I support the coaches.

runnincoug

Dec 11, 3:01pm

Does anyone know exactly how many roster spots we have in light of the new

rockhound

Dec 11, 10:32am

I doubt we add another QB. With the new 105 limit we probably stick with 4 or so

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