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Dec 6, 2024
9:27:04am

Zach Morris #NeverNavy

If you’ve spent time around coaches, you find that they all claim to do it “for the young men”. The reality is, everyone

does what they do for themselves. I don’t believe it’s possible to be an altruist and a multi-millionaire at the same time.

It’s akin to the career politicians make millions of dollars and then refer to themselves as humble public servants.

I just think people like me prefer that you do what you want to do and not get up to the pulpit to preach to everyone why what you choose to do makes you special.

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Zach Morris

Previous username: CB4
Bio page: Zach Morris
Joined: Aug 24, 2009
Last login: Dec 27, 2024
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Time

I don’t get Bronco’s career arc

dtownCoug

Dec 6, 8:15am

USU is a far, far better program than UNM.

NGB

Dec 6, 8:16am

RE: USU is a far, far better program than UNM.

WJCougar

Dec 6, 8:17am

Why do you think this? I’m not saying you’re wrong but I’m not sure about

macdizzle

Dec 6, 8:17am

Since joining the mwc usu is 55-37 in conference play. New Mexico is 24-69. Usu averages 25% better attendance last 5

RdF3

Dec 6, 8:24am

25%? So like 50 people more?

WJCougar

Dec 6, 8:28am

are they including livestock in the count?

Pangare

Dec 6, 9:17am

Success, history, etc. They're absolutely NOT comparable.

NGB

Dec 6, 8:25am

Also, Logan is much better of a location than Albuquerque.

Ode to Hoy

Dec 6, 10:00am

*Ogden

TheAirForceCoug

Dec 6, 10:43am

Some might call it Logden

Ode to Hoy

Dec 6, 12:43pm

New PAC >>>New MWC.

Conan

Dec 6, 8:26am

The ceiling is much higher at New Mexico than at Utah State

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:16am

Lol not a chance it is. There's a reason why USU has won the MWC & played in 2 conference championships and NM NEVER has

RdF3

Dec 6, 9:21am

UNM has been left behind in the MWC, their future is bleak institutionally

g$

Dec 6, 10:26am

RE: New PAC >>>New MWC.

AltTabbins

Dec 6, 9:26am

2 bowls in the last 18 years. This is the first >3 win season since 2017 for UNM

AggieWeekendCougar

Dec 6, 8:27am

He doubled their win total from 2 to 4

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:08am

They went 5-7

NGB

Dec 6, 9:25am

Overall records since 2005:

pink22

Dec 6, 8:31am

Yet Utah St's most proud accomplishment in the last 20 years is injuring Taysom

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:04am

Let’s let the mascots duke it out and decide

niqmadu

Dec 7, 9:06am

It's more complicated than that. When he left BYU the AD was not sad to see him

Blueto

Dec 6, 8:20am

But someone that can achieve USU’s ceiling with minimal risk of leaving.

Bin01015

Dec 6, 8:51am

He hadn't worn out his welcome with me. He has an open invite to dinner

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:06am

His "job" at UVA had very mixed results. And UVA found Bronco very hard to work with.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 8:25am

Hires and fires?

Cooouuugs

Dec 6, 8:26am

Yep.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 8:27am

They demanded he fire defensive coaches

I'mBatman

Dec 6, 12:21pm

I'll always love how guys who have never taken a single step on UVA's campus

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 6, 8:40am

The fact I've been on the UVA campus several times is certainly not how I know.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 8:51am

Should be easy to link the articles, then.

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 6, 8:55am

I've already done the work WHEN it was live news & discussion. That would seem to be your job.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 8:57am

Should then be easy for you to find those articles you linked...if you did.

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 6, 9:12am

A Fan board I didn't belong to & Virginia news articles from two years ago? Doesn't sound like time I wanna waste.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 9:16am

Shoulda been like Deion. Should've kept your receipts.

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:18am

Why? I follow news to know for myself, not to prove jack to anyone.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 9:20am

So an anonymous person, knew anonymous information gathered from an anonymous

downtownchrisbrown

Dec 6, 9:34am

It was definitely more than A "person", & some of the news was definitely not anonymous

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 9:53am

I'm saying you are reporting that you saw something somewhere sometime. That

downtownchrisbrown

Dec 6, 10:02am

Did you go to their fanboard & to their locals during the same time

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 10:06am

I did not. But I'm sure you can understand the skepticism

downtownchrisbrown

Dec 6, 10:10am

And I couldn't care less about the skepticism. I shared from the vantage I know.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 10:14am

Virginia news sources made it clear that they wanted Mendenhall to stay

Zoobieman

Dec 6, 10:59am

Did I say that they fired him?

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 11:05am

"It was a mutual parting of ways." - But it wasn't

Zoobieman

Dec 6, 11:13am

You want to believe the cut-n-dry official release as the whole story — then you're certainly welcome to it.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 11:19am

I also believe Bronco. . . Who said the same thing

Zoobieman

Dec 6, 11:46am

Yes, he quit. Because he didn't want to deal w the conditions raised by the AthDept.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 11:54am

Keep it going!

Cletus the Fetus

Dec 7, 9:39am

As opposed to "real-life" mutual break-ups envisioned by too many CBers?

SinkingQuffa

Dec 7, 10:22am

Sorry man, I got tired. . .

Zoobieman

Dec 7, 12:25pm

Should likewise be easy for you to show any public information to the contrary. Do you have some link showing

Bob Vance

Dec 6, 9:24am

I said UVA had a love fest for Bronco? Guess I missed where I said that.

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 6, 10:08am

Likewise, if you can point me to where I said those words about you, I'd appreciate it.

Bob Vance

Dec 6, 11:11am

<< Deleted >>

Bob Vance

Dec 6, 11:04am

Lots of reporting (I'm also not going to find) about Bronco refusing to fire D

NYC and Japan

Dec 6, 12:40pm

I have no doubt they wanted him to replace his DC, and I myself posted at the

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 6, 2:08pm

Those were not both possible for Bronco. Bronco wasn't firing NH or allowing NH

NYC and Japan

Dec 6, 3:16pm

I didn't actual say that, but I could see how someone could get that in reading my OP.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 3:32pm

This. I know board members and donors (not affiliated with BYU in any way). It was surprising news.

Cougstreak

Dec 6, 11:22am

Doesn't that also potentially confirm the post he claimed was hogwash?

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 11:31am

Oh brother. I'm glad you know this.

coolblue

Dec 6, 9:21am

RE: His "job" at UVA had very mixed results. And UVA found Bronco very hard to

Zoobieman

Dec 6, 10:58am

I think it just proves that he’s a great coach but a weird dude

TouchdownCougars

Dec 6, 8:27am

He’s a good coach with an enough money to not put up with the things he is sensitive about. But he is not good enough to

Zach Morris

Dec 6, 8:30am

I think this pretty much sums it up.

Roko's Basilisk

Dec 6, 8:57am

I think there's more to it than just ability.

Dec 6, 9:21am

If you’ve spent time around coaches, you find that they all claim to do it “for the young men”. The reality is, everyone

Zach Morris

Dec 6, 9:27am

I know many people that make/have made more than Bronco that I find altruistic

NYC and Japan

Dec 6, 12:54pm

I disagree. Why not get paid higher to make the same impact. He's doing both.

Yes

Dec 6, 1:19pm

I think that is a choice he has made, not one he was relegated to.

coolblue

Dec 6, 9:22am

He does turnarounds. He seems to like joining programs that need a huge

DescdentCoug

Dec 6, 8:42am

He is unquestionably a fantastic coach at rebuilding programs.

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:17am

I think I agree with a lot on here that he likes to feel that he is having a

thirdgencoug

Dec 6, 10:20am

Bronco’s thinking is this: Where can I build a program? Where will they really

WallaX2

Dec 6, 8:48am

RE: Bronco’s thinking is this: Where can I build a program? Where will they really

John Doe

Dec 6, 9:09am

Mad respect for him. He's made enough money to do what he wants.

runnincoug

Dec 6, 8:57am

That’s what I thought. Which is why I don’t understand why he left UNM

Dec 6, 12:56pm

I just hope he does well at Littlest Brother U.

CougarDanger

Dec 6, 9:02am

I can't cheer for him at USU, him doing well there will hurt BYU

byujag

Dec 6, 9:17am

Shame on us if we can’t outrecruit them, even in the best USU scenario.

coug92

Dec 6, 9:21am

And we will have NIL steals and coach steals, if we want them

coug92

Dec 6, 9:22am

It's the late bloomers, as byujag mentioned. Guys who we might recruit as PWOs

runnincoug

Dec 6, 9:23am

We will steal more of their early stars than we lose third string depth guys.

coug92

Dec 6, 9:31am

perhaps so. It could be really good for us if Bronco recruits LDS 2 stars...

runnincoug

Dec 6, 9:40am

PWOs will be gone with the new reduced rosters, right?

NYC and Japan

Dec 6, 12:56pm

USU can be a good LDS player farm school for BYU. Literally!

JAGA97

Dec 6, 10:08am

Great. When they prove themselves, they'll transfer to byu. USU can be the farm

Loyal2Royal

Dec 6, 10:52am

RE: Great. When they prove themselves, they'll transfer to byu. USU can be the

Jordan4024

Dec 6, 1:04pm

He did great bringing BYU out of the Crowton years so maybe he looks at this

HonestTakes

Dec 6, 9:06am

It's his career so the nice thing is you don't have to get it. It is HIS.

Las Pampas

Dec 6, 9:29am

I don’t feel a lot of his coaching decisions have much consideration beyond what

Dec 6, 9:31am

He climbed the coaching ranks and did well for himself.

Corn

Dec 6, 9:33am

My bro retired at 38. By 40 he went back to work because he was bored and wanted

Magneto

Dec 6, 9:44am

I think he still loves coaching but he hates NIL. UNM & Utah St. both help

BlueFever

Dec 6, 10:10am

He's a college coach. They live very transient lifestyles.

Spiff

Dec 6, 10:16am

He enjoys coaching and is doing it for good $ in local he likes.

ImuaKahuku

Dec 6, 10:48am

New Mexico ranches are more arid and don’t get snow like MT or UT

Dec 6, 10:49am

It just shows he thinks and values a little differently than most.

Mitty

Dec 6, 10:53am

Focus on family and qol

Dr MoBYU

Dec 6, 10:54am

Then why did he take the UNM job in the first place? He didn’t do it for the money.

Brisco

Dec 6, 11:13am

Rebuild at a school he loves. He also seems to prefer rural (Provo, Montana, UVA

NYC and Japan

Dec 6, 1:00pm

I’m surprised he’s leaving UNM already. I get that his AD is gone and that Utah is his home. But I have to believe…

Brisco

Dec 6, 11:11am

Certainly easier to justify those dirty details after year 1 than after year 2 or beyond.

SinkingQuffa

Dec 6, 11:37am

Bronco was on the hot seat at UVA when he resigned, though

Threw and Through

Dec 6, 1:33pm

The narrative from the UVA AD herself was she tried everything she could to get

Mitty

Dec 6, 1:47pm

He clearly loves coaching. I believe he does/will have kids in the area for school, etc.

Boomcannon

Dec 6, 2:00pm

Logan is a lot closer

bigjohn

Dec 6, 3:38pm

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