But apparently a 5 pt loss on the road to the #21 team drops you 5 spots

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Nov 26, 2024
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CaliWG

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Clemson vs. BYU Resumes

d10e15

Nov 26, 7:05pm

Logo and preseason expectations

Mr. Scoobs

Nov 26, 7:05pm

And Clemson got pounded in both games

BYU '80

Nov 26, 7:06pm

Clemson and Alabama are ranked where they are based on brand alone.

Shinshin

Nov 26, 7:06pm

Sure, I’ll make it make sense for you. Sagarin: Clemson #17 BYU #28 FPI: Clemson #14 BYU #30 SP+: Clemson #15 BYU #18

TCuz

Nov 26, 7:07pm

Garbage metrics used only when convenient

coug10278

Nov 26, 7:08pm

FPI isn’t a real metric

puntersarepeople

Nov 26, 7:09pm

Ok, add KFord: Clemson #13 BYU #28 and Massey: Clemson #15 BYU #18

TCuz

Nov 26, 7:11pm

Two of the metrics you’ve used have a very slight edge to Clemson

puntersarepeople

Nov 26, 7:16pm

Resume metrics also matter. I’m not saying they don’t. But every efficiency metric favors Clemson

TCuz

Nov 26, 7:19pm

Maybe you just can’t read

puntersarepeople

Nov 26, 7:22pm

I can read fine. You only care about the resume metrics and want to exclude all efficiency metrics

TCuz

Nov 26, 7:23pm

Edited for clarity

puntersarepeople

Nov 26, 7:26pm

Doesn’t FPI still have USC is at like 15 with their 5 losses

Kolipoki

Nov 26, 7:11pm

It loves high recruiting rankings which artificially props up bluebloods

puntersarepeople

Nov 26, 7:12pm

Well clearly if there is a result or two by the metrics you don’t like you just throw it out completely.

TCuz

Nov 26, 7:13pm

Throwing out bad data is something scientists do all the time

puntersarepeople

Nov 26, 7:18pm

Make the objective rankings as subjective as possible! Redo it until we agree with the AP Poll!!

TCuz

Nov 26, 7:22pm

I don’t think you understand science very well

puntersarepeople

Nov 26, 7:25pm

Can you make those rankings make sense? If byu has played a tougher schedule

bulletproof

Nov 26, 7:14pm

They are efficiency metrics. It’s like KenPom in basketball. It’s how well you have played in games

TCuz

Nov 26, 7:17pm

The problem with computer rankings in college football is they use data from

RGGeemer

Nov 26, 7:24pm

No, that’s not why BYU is low at all. Why is Indiana ranked so highly in most of them then?

TCuz

Nov 26, 7:27pm

And FEI - Clemson #14 and BYU #17

cougXor

Nov 26, 9:55pm

That Kansas loss at home along with close wins over OSU and Utah torpedoed us

AF Cougar

Nov 26, 7:07pm

Yet close wins over zero mwc win Nevada (3-8) by 6 and 2-9 Wyoming by four

BYU '80

Nov 26, 7:11pm

Losses to top 10 teams (like Georgia and Oregon) don't hurt a team

krindorr

Nov 26, 7:19pm

But apparently a 5 pt loss on the road to the #21 team drops you 5 spots

CaliWG

Nov 26, 7:41pm

A week after Oregon beat Idaho by 10

BYU '80

Nov 26, 10:45pm

I love that bama cannot torpedo their season

NYCougz

Nov 26, 7:23pm

The last 4 games, BYU won by two miracles against the two worst teams in the

idcougarfan

Nov 26, 7:13pm

I can't be critical of it because I am not confident BYU can beat any of the

JAGA97

Nov 26, 7:23pm

I dont think Clemson could beat a top 20 team as they haven’t.

NYCougz

Nov 26, 7:28pm

In fairness Clemson beat..

NYCougz

Nov 26, 7:27pm

BYU has squeaked by all year, analytics don't like them

Projectoor

Nov 26, 7:29pm

Clemson squeaked by teams that aren’t good.

NYCougz

Nov 26, 7:31pm

True, but Clemson has been much more efficient overall

Projectoor

Nov 26, 7:35pm

The got crushed by the two good teams they played

CaliWG

Nov 26, 7:41pm

Not “much” better

NYCougz

Nov 26, 7:49pm

They haven’t lost to teams that are bad.

RealTaysomHill

Nov 26, 7:39pm

Neither have we. And we have a win that is way better than anything they have.

NYCougz

Nov 26, 7:48pm

Kansas

RealTaysomHill

Nov 26, 10:49pm

Which is a state but not a bad loss as anyone who does more than 5 minutes of

NYCougz

Nov 26, 11:28pm

BYU squeaked by three teams all year.

BYU '80

Nov 26, 10:46pm

It's about when you lose

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

Nov 26, 7:58pm

A lot of truth to this

NYCougz

Nov 26, 8:46pm

I’m a big Clemson fan and there is no justification for them to be ranked

AeroCoug

Nov 26, 8:19pm

And you forgot to add SMU’s ranking in there. Aren’t they like #9 now?

andrewg3

Nov 26, 9:43pm

All rankings were what they were at the time - see UGA AT #1

d10e15

Nov 26, 10:52pm

Smu is perhaps the most impressive non con win by any team

BYU '80

Nov 26, 10:58pm

It’s not about who you beat, it’s about who the committee THINKS you would beat

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