The problem with computer rankings in college football is they use data from

Nov 26, 2024
7:24:05pm

RGGeemer Intervention Needed

The last 2-4 years (!!!) In their metrics. That makes zero sense in college football where players rotate and improve significantly year to year. It's why BYU is below other top 25 teams in those computer rankings

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RGGeemer

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Clemson vs. BYU Resumes

d10e15

7:05pm

Logo and preseason expectations

Mr. Scoobs

7:05pm

And Clemson got pounded in both games

BYU '80

7:06pm

Clemson and Alabama are ranked where they are based on brand alone.

Shinshin

7:06pm

Sure, I’ll make it make sense for you. Sagarin: Clemson #17 BYU #28 FPI: Clemson #14 BYU #30 SP+: Clemson #15 BYU #18

TCuz

7:07pm

Garbage metrics used only when convenient

coug10278

7:08pm

FPI isn’t a real metric

puntersarepeople

7:09pm

Ok, add KFord: Clemson #13 BYU #28 and Massey: Clemson #15 BYU #18

TCuz

7:11pm

Two of the metrics you’ve used have a very slight edge to Clemson

puntersarepeople

7:16pm

Resume metrics also matter. I’m not saying they don’t. But every efficiency metric favors Clemson

TCuz

7:19pm

Maybe you just can’t read

puntersarepeople

7:22pm

I can read fine. You only care about the resume metrics and want to exclude all efficiency metrics

TCuz

7:23pm

Edited for clarity

puntersarepeople

7:26pm

Doesn’t FPI still have USC is at like 15 with their 5 losses

Kolipoki

7:11pm

It loves high recruiting rankings which artificially props up bluebloods

puntersarepeople

7:12pm

Well clearly if there is a result or two by the metrics you don’t like you just throw it out completely.

TCuz

7:13pm

Throwing out bad data is something scientists do all the time

puntersarepeople

7:18pm

Make the objective rankings as subjective as possible! Redo it until we agree with the AP Poll!!

TCuz

7:22pm

I don’t think you understand science very well

puntersarepeople

7:25pm

Can you make those rankings make sense? If byu has played a tougher schedule

bulletproof

7:14pm

They are efficiency metrics. It’s like KenPom in basketball. It’s how well you have played in games

TCuz

7:17pm

The problem with computer rankings in college football is they use data from

RGGeemer

7:24pm

No, that’s not why BYU is low at all. Why is Indiana ranked so highly in most of them then?

TCuz

7:27pm

And FEI - Clemson #14 and BYU #17

cougXor

9:55pm

That Kansas loss at home along with close wins over OSU and Utah torpedoed us

AF Cougar

7:07pm

Yet close wins over zero mwc win Nevada (3-8) by 6 and 2-9 Wyoming by four

BYU '80

7:11pm

Losses to top 10 teams (like Georgia and Oregon) don't hurt a team

krindorr

7:19pm

But apparently a 5 pt loss on the road to the #21 team drops you 5 spots

CaliWG

7:41pm

A week after Oregon beat Idaho by 10

BYU '80

10:45pm

I love that bama cannot torpedo their season

NYCougz

7:23pm

The last 4 games, BYU won by two miracles against the two worst teams in the

idcougarfan

7:13pm

I can't be critical of it because I am not confident BYU can beat any of the

JAGA97

7:23pm

I dont think Clemson could beat a top 20 team as they haven’t.

NYCougz

7:28pm

In fairness Clemson beat..

NYCougz

7:27pm

BYU has squeaked by all year, analytics don't like them

Projectoor

7:29pm

Clemson squeaked by teams that aren’t good.

NYCougz

7:31pm

True, but Clemson has been much more efficient overall

Projectoor

7:35pm

The got crushed by the two good teams they played

CaliWG

7:41pm

Not “much” better

NYCougz

7:49pm

They haven’t lost to teams that are bad.

RealTaysomHill

7:39pm

Neither have we. And we have a win that is way better than anything they have.

NYCougz

7:48pm

Kansas

RealTaysomHill

10:49pm

Which is a state but not a bad loss as anyone who does more than 5 minutes of

NYCougz

11:28pm

BYU squeaked by three teams all year.

BYU '80

10:46pm

It's about when you lose

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

7:58pm

A lot of truth to this

NYCougz

8:46pm

I’m a big Clemson fan and there is no justification for them to be ranked

AeroCoug

8:19pm

And you forgot to add SMU’s ranking in there. Aren’t they like #9 now?

andrewg3

9:43pm

All rankings were what they were at the time - see UGA AT #1

d10e15

10:52pm

Smu is perhaps the most impressive non con win by any team

BYU '80

10:58pm

It’s not about who you beat, it’s about who the committee THINKS you would beat

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