so what is your point then? That a tactic that the elites use is a tactic that

Nov 25, 2024
6:28:34am

cwilke1 All-American

is not good enough for the P4 teams lower in the pecking order? If its good enough for the elites, then seems obvious that its good enough for P4 outsiders like Arizona or Cal or Baylor, etc.

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Idk maybe it’s me, but there’s no way Jay Hill is leaving BYU to be the HC at

bigbossbyu

12:18am

Jay will ge more opportunities at better programs.

NYCougz

12:21am

Yep this. He’ll probably have his pick of being the main guy at BYU or Utah in

bigbossbyu

12:26am

Hope we can keep him. I worry about his health too. Had a big scare not that

NYCougz

12:29am

You think kalani is out in 3-5 years?

cougarfann888

12:34am

No, nor do I think Hill is the BYU DC 5 years from now. Kind of a sucky

bigbossbyu

12:39am

Sounds like you have the future all planned out. Do you have any stock tips?

Ozymandias

12:43am

CFB coaching carousel is easier to predict than the stock market.

Y05

2:36am

Not for BYU and Utah, it isn’t.

Ozymandias

2:51am

Huh? Kalani and Scalley are both young guys.

Ozymandias

12:37am

The average length of head coaching careers is getting smaller. Kalani is

Polecat

1:09am

Kalani is 49. He will likely be at BYU now as long as he wants. Scalley is 45

Ozymandias

1:14am

My point is things are unpredictable, and modern college football coaches stay

Polecat

1:19am

Do you think that the odds are that in 5 years someone other than Kalani or

Ozymandias

1:22am

They say never replace a legend. Scalley will be doing just that in a new world

Polecat

1:30am

Haha. Their defense has been good to very good this year. He gets 4 years

Ozymandias

2:33am

Or the BSU job when their HC gets a P4 gig after this season's success.

Les IsMore

9:33am

Honestly bsu is doing really well financially right now.

cougarfann888

10:54am

That just seems like nonsense to me.

YSMACK

12:35am

What does the HC make at UsU?

NYCougz

12:40am

Google says $1.3M. You think he makes less now?

NYCougz

12:42am

He makes 1 m now. He will likely be offered 1.4 by USU

YSMACK

12:45am

I just don’t see it. Maybe he’s desperate to be the main guy, we’ll see. But to

bigbossbyu

12:54am

It seems like we could come up with another $400 and give him associate HC role

NYCougz

12:58am

They surely would pay more for Hill. And Hill could parlay that job to a huge

Hawk Talons

12:46am

I agree it’s nonsense that USU is some kind of terrible gig that Hill wouldn’t

Polecat

1:17am

USU is a bit of a mess, but you're right

stansburycoug

8:29am

Just seems very high risk when better situations will come up

Bobmarleyjr

10:09am

BYU fans should be worried. The way to becoming my a coach at a P4 program for

Ozymandias

12:36am

Idk if Hill is the type of coach that needs a G5 HC gig at USU to land at a

bigbossbyu

1:05am

What coordinators from a BYU type program have gone from a coordinator to HC

Ozymandias

1:11am

When has BYU ever been a P4 program? Not saying he’d be a run away candidate,

bigbossbyu

1:16am

I asked for a BYU type program. Show me a Baylor coordinator or a

Ozymandias

1:19am

So you’re essentially saying his FCS coach experience is enough to land a P4

Polecat

1:28am

BYU is in playoff and conference championship contention.

Y05

2:49am

Show me a comparable program where a coordinator went from coordinator to

Ozymandias

3:53am

Kirby Smart - head coach for top 5 georgia went from being defensive coordinator

cwilke1

4:16am

I said a comparable program. Alabama is not that.

Ozymandias

4:25am

so what is your point then? That a tactic that the elites use is a tactic that

cwilke1

6:28am

My point is, that for coordinators at schools like BYU there doesn’t seem to be

Ozymandias

6:39am

BYU has been P4 for all of 2 seasons. That BYU as an independent didn't

cwilke1

6:46am

That is why I said schools similar to BYU.

Ozymandias

8:03am

Hill has successful HC experience on his resume. Deion went from FCS HC to P4 HC

Y05

7:48am

All of those examples aren’t examples of what I asked for.

Ozymandias

8:05am

2025 Prediction. BYU pays Hill $2M/yr to match what Scalley gets at Utah. Fesi

GMGlenn

6:19am

If there’s no way then why is Hill talking to them??

CoolB

6:45am

Assistant at byu is better than HC at many other schools.

niqmadu

7:11am

Seems like a bad move for his health

Hufflepuff

7:59am

Yes but it may not be any more stress than he is putting on himself now. He does

Transferportal

9:02am

I don't think Hill wants to walk into the mess that the Utah State Athletic

ElkhunterUT

9:12am

Kalani new AD for Holmoe- Hill new HC?

Huck

9:37am

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