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Nov 11, 2024
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Shawarma
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Harlan just stepped to the front of Utah’s toxic image problem.
Will the U change course or embrace the toxic faction of their fan base?
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My Sources Tell Me Harlan is in a World of Hurt
ghettomagic
Nov 11, 12:48pm
That would imply the University disagrees with him. That can't be true.
Cougarclaw
Nov 11, 12:49pm
True....since Whit was yelling at the refs too.
WJCougar
Nov 11, 12:50pm
On the field yelling at the refs by the head coach is nothing, even after games.
RenoCoug
Nov 11, 12:58pm
Going after refs while ignoring the opposing coach who just wanted to shake hands is pretty shameful IMO.
Knight-who-says-ni
Nov 11, 1:43pm
Whitt and Kalani hugged right before Whitt went off on the refs. They'd already
jwalk
Nov 11, 1:46pm
Ok. Mea Culpa. I must have missed that clip. I only saw the one where KS looked uncomfortable
Knight-who-says-ni
Nov 11, 1:54pm
He looked uncomfortable because Whit gave him a quick bro hug then attacked ref.
ochobeeguy
Nov 12, 8:06am
thats not what happened
TheHop
Nov 11, 1:46pm
I'm not defending Whitt, but to stay he ignored Kalani isn't accurate
jwalk
Nov 11, 1:56pm
RE: thats not what happened
K-So
Nov 11, 4:16pm
Not much of a "going after the refs"
Les IsMore
Nov 11, 4:29pm
RE: thats not what happened
TheHop
Nov 11, 4:30pm
RE: thats not what happened
K-So
Nov 11, 5:08pm
RE: thats not what happened
TheHop
Nov 11, 5:12pm
This is what happened, and the video is clear - KW clearly extended his hand,
jaba166
Nov 11, 6:01pm
I don’t know if it’s really possible for KW
foosman
Nov 11, 6:26pm
That's probably true - he's definitely not warm and fuzzy like KS . . unless,
jaba166
Nov 11, 6:57pm
I agree with your interpretation of their current friendship. To me it was
Schultz is back
Nov 11, 10:03pm
Just because someone goes in with a handshake doesn't mean they are against hug
cruoti
Nov 11, 6:39pm
KW knows KS is a hugger though. Everyone knows that.
VACOUGFAN
Nov 11, 6:56pm
Even if you agreed with his sentiment, his childish behavior put their only
Jericho
Nov 11, 12:51pm
I wish a byu player had accidentally run into him during his tantrum
BYU '80
Nov 11, 2:21pm
If they don’t fire him they align with him.
xgbs
Nov 11, 2:03pm
"90% decent Utah fans." I suggest you stay away from anyone with a breathalyzer.
DeepCCoug
Nov 11, 3:29pm
90% decent, not 90% of fans who are decent. 😉
xgbs
Nov 11, 4:20pm
What's 90% of two?
Les IsMore
Nov 11, 4:31pm
He means "decent" as in "dressed." "Come in, I'm decent!"
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 5:40pm
He epitomizes Utah and their fan base. They would need new admin too
Bobmarleyjr
Nov 11, 2:16pm
True, but they need something/someone to blame because accepting the truth about their university
BYU Tar Heel
Nov 11, 2:52pm
I think with bball issues and current state of football program it put a target
U2wearblue
Nov 11, 4:12pm
I'm guessing fans and admin are probably more upset with the state of the
Huge Manatee
Nov 11, 12:49pm
But as you implied, if they think he's done a horrible job this might be seen as
Tricky
Nov 11, 12:54pm
Bingo!
ghettomagic
Nov 11, 12:54pm
What a disgrace to all the Utah taxpayers who had money forced from their hands
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 1:57pm
Harlan has always been a clown.
Real Men Wear Blue
Nov 11, 4:56pm
It really is so embarrassing to have the head of your athletic department walking on the field during a live play to
slappy
Nov 11, 12:51pm
How is he different than any other idiot fan streaking across the field?
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 1:57pm
Field pass
calbearcoug
Nov 11, 1:58pm
So he's no different than any other fan with a field pass.
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 4:04pm
If you say so.
calbearcoug
Nov 11, 4:45pm
He’s a representative of the university. He’s the head of all athletics. He knows exactly what his actions merit and
BYU Grounds
Nov 11, 4:38pm
Yep. And the U likely has a code of conduct their employees have to abide by.
SJS
Nov 11, 4:52pm
So he's worse than the average fan running onto the field. He's specifically...
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 5:41pm
He is the Athletic Director
Blue Heart
Nov 11, 5:16pm
And that makes him different than any other person with a field pass how?
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 5:44pm
Maybe I misunderstood the question
Blue Heart
Nov 11, 5:59pm
That is the kicker. Theoretically, he could have physically disrupted the game.
Chase
Nov 11, 2:59pm
Yes, it shouldn't just be a penalty, it should be a criminal charge
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 5:45pm
RE: My Sources Tell Me Harlan is in a World of Hurt
TheHop
Nov 11, 12:51pm
Firing him is the right thing that I hope doesn’t happen. He’s a useful fool
Big Daddy D
Nov 11, 12:51pm
Exactly. The curse is now owned by him and Huntley
BYU '80
Nov 11, 2:22pm
They really need to clean house, force KW to "retire" too.
BigHouse Coug
Nov 11, 12:52pm
Is your source related to a Rasband, Huntsman, or Eccles?
MajorZeus
Nov 11, 12:53pm
Rasband? Why on earth would he care?
kansascougar
Nov 11, 2:18pm
He went to Utah, so I imagine he's a big fan.
coventry94
Nov 11, 3:44pm
RE: He went to Utah, so I imagine he's a big fan.
kansascougar
Nov 11, 3:47pm
Maybe don’t imagine and guess……
kansascougar
Nov 11, 3:47pm
He left one semester short of graduating to work for Huntsman.
coventry94
Nov 11, 8:41pm
I know that. Cheering for them and suggesting he would have any opinion
kansascougar
Nov 11, 8:51pm
Rasband is much more involved in BYU sports. His son here in Orlando area was in charge of the UCF game tailgate for BYU
CLCougar
Nov 11, 4:16pm
He really should be. We'll see.
fbguru
Nov 11, 12:53pm
There were three things that were for sure going to happen
bythenumbers
Nov 11, 12:54pm
There was no apology, just lots of words and mansplaining
NYC and Japan
Nov 11, 1:41pm
Blamed it on hurt feelings of his players
WJCougar
Nov 11, 2:07pm
Which was a lie as he hadn’t even been to the locker room
BYU '80
Nov 11, 2:23pm
Walked straight from his penalty for disrupting final play to disrupt press conf
NYC and Japan
Nov 11, 3:25pm
ya - there were not even the words "I'm sorry for ..." in his statement
CoolB
Nov 11, 4:25pm
But what does he think of Isaac Wilson at QB?
kccougar
Nov 11, 12:55pm
I wish I could have seen Yormark’s face as he heard Harlan’s “I’m calling the
Big Daddy D
Nov 11, 12:57pm
Here are some reasons it could happen:
zonacougar
Nov 11, 12:58pm
All good reasons. Dr Hill made allegations of a toxic environment some years
MajorZeus
Nov 11, 1:01pm
#4 is the reason I'd fire him. It's wild that his impromptu press conference is
fattycoug
Nov 11, 1:30pm
Their donors love this behavior or they would do something to stop it
BYU '80
Nov 11, 2:24pm
In regards to number 5, do you know for a fact that ‘damage is being done to
Soy Celeste
Nov 11, 2:39pm
All of your given reasons are accurate. They know their problems.
DeepCCoug
Nov 11, 3:34pm
You need to add #6: Harlan is in no way remorseful for his petulant behavior
cougarmeister
Nov 11, 4:38pm
I'd add another
deliciousmocha
Nov 11, 5:24pm
Add to that his comments can be construed that the admin doesn't like the B12 in
P-Widdy
Nov 11, 7:33pm
I hate calling for someone's head, but in all honesty he should be fired. I'm still in shock over
kimdaddy35
Nov 11, 1:04pm
I hope not. He sucks at his job. May UU keep him for the next 50 years.
ldssdl
Nov 11, 1:06pm
His running on the field during a play is the worst of it.
Belboz
Nov 11, 1:13pm
It's funny that they let the play go on to give them hope.
BigHouse Coug
Nov 11, 1:26pm
I wish they'd blown it dead long before the play actually ended...then fans
AlternateShot
Nov 11, 3:25pm
how sweet would have that been?! I really wish they scored on that!
fattycoug
Nov 11, 1:31pm
I would have loved to see him get an inadvertent pitch as they
Pangare
Nov 11, 2:05pm
Or accidentally trip the player with the ball!
libertycoug
Nov 11, 3:53pm
Especially based on what we know he said. I bet that former Pac12 refs handed
BYU '80
Nov 11, 2:25pm
^^^^^ This. If Utah returned that kick, then the hold would almost be forgotten.
RecoveringLawyer
Nov 11, 2:46pm
I thought so, too, but I think it's the case that an unsportsmanlike penalty on
SoCalCoug
Nov 11, 3:11pm
That would have gotten him fired for sure!!!
trumpetur
Nov 11, 5:14pm
There are already performance-based reasons established that justify his firing
CougarCanuck76
Nov 11, 1:46pm
#KeepHimPlease!
Your Royal Blueness
Nov 11, 1:47pm
They need to introspect more. Why take tax money to do...this? Killtheprogram.
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 1:51pm
Is introspect a verb?
calbearcoug
Nov 11, 4:45pm
Yes:
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 5:46pm
Wasn't Harlan the "Give me a break" guy?
YankeeCoug
Nov 11, 1:56pm
Yes. Same putz.
fbguru
Nov 11, 2:38pm
He's also a public employee of the State, he supposed to keep a higher standard
Samuel Hall Society
Nov 11, 2:01pm
He needs to learn you support the school to the press, and support your team in the locker room.
AltTabbins
Nov 11, 2:03pm
My brain told me that right after seeing what he said and did. I don't think
BlueTooth
Nov 11, 2:07pm
I think let his emotions get the best of him. He didn’t act rationally after a
Soy Celeste
Nov 11, 3:12pm
Yeah but he doubled down too with that non-apology.
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 4:05pm
Ute football currently sucks. So does Ute basketball. He's on the hot seat.
DeepCCoug
Nov 11, 3:38pm
NOOOOO! Best thing that ever happened to Utah athletics.
Socrates Johnson
Nov 11, 2:12pm
Doubtful. They all agree with him.
BYU '80
Nov 11, 2:19pm
Living pretentiously will bring you that kind of Karma.
VenomFarmer
Nov 11, 2:24pm
CB understands Harlan needs to keep his job and for as long as possible right?
Ripliancum
Nov 11, 2:41pm
Petulant? That's a big word for their fan base and donors
tyler durden
Nov 11, 2:46pm
I saw several Reddit comments saying a lot of people at the U have been
Polecat
Nov 11, 2:46pm
No university president or BOD or high-end donors want to be embarrassed by
Chase
Nov 11, 3:16pm
Harlan just stepped to the front of Utah’s toxic image problem.
Shawarma
Nov 11, 3:31pm
"Embrace the dark side, Utah...YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO. YOU KNOW!!!
DeepCCoug
Nov 11, 3:40pm
Good he was completely unprofessional
BYUvermont
Nov 11, 3:40pm
He released a non-apology statement. That's it.
mannheimadler
Nov 11, 3:45pm
No, keep him! Let him destroy the program a little more before he goes
Resurgens
Nov 11, 3:51pm
I think we should start a movement for them to keep him. He is good for BYU.
AZPTCOUG
Nov 11, 3:58pm
If I were high level donors I’d be looking at having Whitt join Harlan…
icecougar
Nov 11, 3:59pm
Spoke with a member of the board at the U a couple weeks ago
4thand19
Nov 11, 4:08pm
Scalley is not “new direction.” He’s nothing more than Whitt 2.0.
Soy Celeste
Nov 11, 4:14pm
Seems likely to me that he already felt his seat was hot, and that might have
russkiejedi
Nov 11, 4:00pm
I think this is correct. This has become a major embarrassment for the
WillsPitStop
Nov 11, 4:00pm
Has the University released a apology - Or Harlan?
TeeKaa
Nov 11, 4:07pm
Hopefully they keep him. The implosion of the program has been a fantastic side
Ray Shoesmith
Nov 11, 4:16pm
I just hope they don’t go out and hire the next Urban Myer, or SMU’s coach.
Shawarma
Nov 11, 4:27pm
Gotta think Prez Randall is embarrassed & angry after his "Rival Right" campaign
cougarmeister
Nov 11, 4:34pm
I’m honestly surprised he hasn’t been fired yet.
Boring
Nov 11, 4:40pm
He at the least deserved probation pending administrative review.
Boring
Nov 11, 4:41pm
Firing him would be admitting they were wrong.
HuskerFan2
Nov 11, 4:43pm
Have you ever lost it? I have more often than I'd like to admit. Harlan is wrong
rockyrd
Nov 11, 4:45pm
we don't see AD's of other schools on the field during play because it's not that hard to control yourself.
HarlemCoug
Nov 11, 4:56pm
Even nearly all fans have more self control than this...Athletic Director.
Brandoblueblood
Nov 11, 5:48pm
People who lose it like that don't have jobs like this.
calbearcoug
Nov 11, 5:33pm
fine to say that and he could have garnered some sympathy but he doubled down
oryguncoug
Nov 11, 5:54pm
It is the Ultimate Sin in our secular society: NEVER EMBARRASS YOUR BOSS
ninja math
Nov 11, 4:59pm
I can’t tell if this is satire or not
ColonelMustard
Nov 11, 4:59pm
In light of the 'Rival Right' campaign, it'll look real bad if they don't fire
Orem58thBall
Nov 11, 5:25pm
The most egregious thing wasn’t yelling at the officials on the field or
BYUFan2010
Nov 11, 5:48pm
That would probably be a bad thing for us. Hope he stays there.
ybecausethatswhy
Nov 11, 6:20pm
Is there anyone else on CB that hasn't had a chance to comment?
Plantagenet
Nov 11, 6:27pm
The fact that even if Utah ran it back, it would be called back because of
Veep
Nov 11, 6:31pm
The incident really hurts the Utah brand. I’d fire the AD.
GMGlenn
Nov 11, 6:32pm
Did you hear that from a cougar fan?
davidmj10
Nov 11, 6:57pm
RE: Did you hear that from a cougar fan?
Shawarma
Nov 11, 7:00pm
Harlan should keep his job because he's added entertainment for the rivalry game
greatbam
Nov 11, 7:10pm
Yahtzee
DirtyWater
Nov 11, 10:04pm
Fixed and made it a yahtzee again. Someone took away their POTD.
fbguru
Nov 12, 5:17am
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