He wasn't able to recruit at the level needed to win post season.

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Nov 4, 2024
4:34:09pm

Archaea Intervention Needed

We haven't really ever had any coaches who won much in the post season.

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Archaea

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the real reason Pope annoyed some of our fans:

Archaea

Nov 4, 4:24pm

RE: the real reason Pope annoyed some of our fans:

tacallaway

Nov 4, 4:32pm

RE: the real reason Pope annoyed some of our fans:

44C

Nov 4, 6:28pm

Mark getting that UK job did take a few pinches of magic. You do have to wonder if that didn't push im over the top.

SinkingQuffa

Nov 4, 7:45pm

At the time, he seemed all in to me

Incentivize

Nov 4, 4:32pm

Is KY a BYU man? He didn't go to school here.

AT Cougar

Nov 4, 4:32pm

on that note a basketball coach trying to make a living to be a basketball coach

cwilke1

Nov 4, 4:35pm

He's more or less said the only school he'd have come to college for was BYU

tacallaway

Nov 4, 4:36pm

he also said that the byu job became more attractive once byu joined the big 12.

cwilke1

Nov 4, 4:38pm

It's clearly a combination of things. But KY is a big relationships guy

tacallaway

Nov 4, 4:40pm

So long as he's married and we don't treat her like Sister Mendenhall he'll stay

JupiterJones

Nov 4, 5:46pm

He didn’t start out a cougar, but he married into the family. Literally.

ninja math

Nov 4, 6:13pm

To me he came across as a used car salesman. Lots of talk. None of it seemed

Blueto

Nov 4, 4:33pm

He wasn't able to recruit at the level needed to win post season.

Archaea

Nov 4, 4:34pm

That's not true. Last season we were better that Duquesne. Winning in postseason

Blueto

Nov 4, 4:44pm

If you follow those Cinderellas they often have under-rated but pro ready

Archaea

Nov 4, 4:46pm

Duquesne had NBA talent? BYU had borderline NBA talent (TBD)

scrambled egg

Nov 4, 5:00pm

Blame him all you wish but we were overwhelmed by their defensive presence.

Archaea

Nov 4, 5:08pm

Frank Arnold could win in the post season.

Plantagenet

Nov 4, 6:25pm

For a few years with four NBA players

Archaea

Nov 4, 10:13pm

the part regarding faith was always sincere.

Dr MoBYU

Nov 4, 4:34pm

Not really. The stars aligned perfectly for Pope to leave AND he knew BYU wasn't gonna give him the support he wanted.

SinkingQuffa

Nov 4, 4:35pm

It honestly didn't matter the level of support BYU gave him.

CPAcoug87

Nov 4, 5:06pm

That's quite true, BUT we were gonna lose him to another program sooner than later because of our restrictive ways.

SinkingQuffa

Nov 4, 5:15pm

The real reason is he left. Before that almost everyone loved him.

8-track

Nov 4, 4:38pm

No, his teams always folded like a cheap suit

wildeone

Nov 4, 4:52pm

No cheaper than any team in most of our lifetimes without a player named Jimmer.

LeftOfNormal

Nov 4, 4:58pm

We've had one other coach in recent memory. That coach actually had some wins

wildeone

Nov 4, 5:02pm

…with a player named Jimmer. Just as the last dude said

cajuncoug

Nov 4, 6:23pm

Mark Pope was NEVER universally loved by our fanbase. There was too much resentment in the inner circles of BYU's own

SinkingQuffa

Nov 4, 4:58pm

He ticked off the local yokals who didn't start Utah County stars.

Archaea

Nov 4, 5:09pm

That was part of it. Those yokals were fueled by many of the same people who were poisoning the instate recruiting wells

SinkingQuffa

Nov 4, 5:20pm

Not winning a tourney game

CougarCanuck76

Nov 4, 4:38pm

Since when has that been the gold standard for being a successful BYU bball HC?

SinkingQuffa

Nov 4, 4:45pm

Since the expectation was to win one

CougarCanuck76

Nov 4, 5:59pm

It seemed to arise very strongly in his third season in a way I never remember before at BYU.

SinkingQuffa

Nov 4, 6:10pm

he gave 100% while he was here. He took us to a great place last year.

runnincoug

Nov 4, 4:55pm

I dont know how the general crowd found him but the donors found him to not be

OKchief

Nov 4, 5:11pm

I am and always will be grateful to Pope for all he did at BYU

Michicoug

Nov 4, 5:45pm

The CATS cheer on Marriot Center court ended my respect for Pope.

chirocoug

Nov 4, 5:52pm

you know that happened in 2013, right? Before Pope was ever head coach at BYU.

cwilke1

Nov 4, 6:35pm

Stop it. Pope fought his rear off for us.

Cswilliam01

Nov 4, 9:05pm

I appreciate what Pope did at and for BYU

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