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Oct 14, 2024
2:38:21pm

DirtyWater Truly Addicted User

Dude. Come on.

If your boss sat you down tomorrow and said, "Hey, we've got an amazing new compensation package for you. Instead of us giving you money this month, we're going to advance you the money you would have earned, but with a catch. Ready? Here's the awesome part. When you get your paycheck NEXT month, you pay us back the money we advanced to you THIS month. Pretty awesome, right?"

How do you respond?

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DirtyWater

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Time

Well, according to an anonymous donor…

ghettomagic

12:06pm

Yes

Preppy

12:07pm

If I'm AJ, my agent better be able to negotiate 8-9

xgbs

2:11pm

Meh the market should be the same or less. You get paid $5m to play 82 NBA

Socrates Johnson

4:37pm

Program visibility would be unprecedented for BYU bball moving forward, so yes!

2:28pm

Its not my $8M, so sure

Projectoor

12:07pm

This

OldFogey

1:46pm

Exactly. And I can assure you, there are donors who are more than happy to help

Duke Silver

1:49pm

It’s not really up to BYU. They can “discourage” but they can’t stop it other

NWCoug

4:32pm

To make it clear, if my net worth was $1B+ this would be worth it for me

Projectoor

1:50pm

Not the way a billionaire thinks. Try this instead...

xgbs

2:08pm

Not saying I wouldn't do it this way with my imaginary $1B

Projectoor

2:24pm

Do you see any evidence of NIL deals with payback clauses? (for big names)

ryebrye

2:34pm

Its not presented in a positive light, but this article is only 4 days old...

xgbs

2:52pm

same thing here...Perkins is an idiot and this will not fly.

ghettomagic

2:55pm

Get real. AJ isn't doing that. Legit ideas have to make sense to both sides

DirtyWater

2:35pm

Its not a loan. It's insurance.

xgbs

2:55pm

Instead of money, let's offer him donuts. Yeah! That's the ticket!

DirtyWater

2:57pm

Yeah, because if you get hurt the way Kyrie did, it could tank your draft stock to ... where was Kyrie drafted again?

krindorr

4:20pm

Same year Enes Kanter didn't play at all. Ruled ineligible by NCAA for making $33,000 in Europe. Enes was #3 draft pick.

roseyscenario

4:30pm

If I'm a sure-fire early draft pick, there's no chance I sign that sort of deal

krindorr

4:19pm

So what do you usually do with your $8M-$9M?

TNT

3:18pm

I'm fine if someone wants to donate. I just hope AJ gives the right answers

MajorZeus

12:08pm

I know $7-9 got tossed around by some talking heads, but the latest I had heard

inertiaman

12:09pm

If he is projected at top pick and NBA star, a lot of the money could come from

Plato

12:22pm

Dirt cheap marketing if he’s as good as advertised.

mulletino

12:09pm

Agreed. Consider as part of the marketing budget.

Supercoug

12:17pm

The best marketing is amazing product. True here as well.

Atmospheric_Cougar

2:04pm

I’m sincerely interested in this answer

12:10pm

If someone has enough money where they are willing to donate millions to a school, why would that change

Baron

12:13pm

A lot of people donate because they love the mission of BYU - for example, what

inertiaman

12:13pm

Maybe he does some national commercials for the $8MM?

2FarGone

12:18pm

The Math

B Blue

12:23pm

200k is a normal income for a person?

Cougar TD

1:39pm

Per a quick Google search:

PumaFanatico

2:08pm

200,000 for BYU Grad. 67,000 for Utah Grad.

baldcoug74

2:12pm

My thoughts exactly

Boring

3:12pm

That is incongruent math, comparing $200K annual income to $1B net worth.

roseyscenario

2:41pm

Good point.

PumaFanatico

2:50pm

it's not about this one player

Jimmy Rocket

1:53pm

If donors are allowed to participate in NBA earnings, it gets

xgbs

2:13pm

Dude. Come on.

DirtyWater

2:38pm

You think it isn't happening?

xgbs

3:03pm

The whole idea is stupid.

DirtyWater

3:07pm

That happens...but that's a different sort of investment than paying a player to go to a certain school

krindorr

6:22pm

Yes

12:12pm

Yes 100%. The perception of the program landing the #1 recruit to build on the

Duke Silver

12:14pm

Not saying AJ is MJ, but how much did North Carolina get out of MJ

Cougarclaw

12:15pm

$8-9M

Indy Coug

12:15pm

Anonymous donor or podcast chatter linked on CB about 10 times in the past 4 days?

kccougar

12:16pm

Sat next to the donor on Saturday! He told me the ask is $8/$9MM

ghettomagic

12:19pm

And he got it from a podcast.

kccougar

12:41pm

Going to be some great hotel and survey commercials next year

WorfoSAUR

12:18pm

If he's just after NIL $$$ then I'd pass. If you are going to be making 100X

GMGlenn

12:49pm

AJ's dad was hyping it a couple of months ago to public media using those big numbers. He said then to ZAGSBLOG:

roseyscenario

12:49pm

Yes, smart business decision. If Lebron James had come to BYU for 8M, the PR

Reasonable1

12:55pm

He’s not probably going to be the next LeBron though

Ghost Pirate LeChuck

1:46pm

50/50 chance. Either he is or he isn’t.

Reasonable1

1:57pm

It depends on how much the people who pay value him.

Belboz

1:00pm

Yes

runningryan

1:10pm

Yes yes yes yes yes

Your Royal Blueness

1:12pm

RE: Well, according to an anonymous donor…

rtl

1:18pm

I have always said yes to spending other people's money

1:29pm

It's smart

cougforever

1:34pm

Yes.... also I highly doubt it is that much

Cougar TD

1:39pm

I don’t

Ghost Pirate LeChuck

1:47pm

If he ends up being the next PG13 or KD

Ghost Pirate LeChuck

1:45pm

Whatever the amount, hope he doesn't get a season ending injury in game 2.

BackPacker

1:54pm

Those NIL are contingent upon playing a certain number of games.

Archaea

2:03pm

That should be the case, but I understood such terms were not allowed.

BackPacker

2:17pm

They get around it by

Archaea

3:04pm

From an investment standpoint, no way. From a fan's standpoint, yes.

coolblue

2:02pm

Thanks ghetto, we appreciate that.

Archaea

2:02pm

If he ends up having an NBA All-Star type career, 9 million would be a bargain

Trappist1F

2:19pm

$4-5M might be closer to the truth

ninja math

2:23pm

Agree; $9M was likely a bargaining ploy from AJ's team

Underhill

3:35pm

It's like buying a super bowl ad.

MaxxPower

2:46pm

Definitely smart - as long as it's not my money.

StantonMac

2:47pm

I’m hearing some of our Big 12 apostles aren’t excited about paying this much.

Veep

2:52pm

Why?? If it's Ryan smith's money, why would that be frowned on?

Preppy

2:57pm

Because they traditionally don't like athletics being a "golden calf"

TNT

3:20pm

To a degree...but they know full well the good sports does to the Church's visibility and missionary efforts. Undeniable

Preppy

4:03pm

Well current leadership embraces it more than they did in the past

TNT

5:05pm

I seriously doubt they care one way or the other. They have other things to worry about. Sports aren't something they

AltTabbins

3:16pm

So long as athletics is financially independent and viable, and representing BYU and the Church, I doubt anyone is

Preppy

3:18pm

They used to avoid this stuff at all costs

TNT

3:20pm

They still do. Its not a priority for them at all, they leave it to Holmoe.

AltTabbins

3:23pm

They used to actively stop it. So this is big progress for them

TNT

3:25pm

You mean like, paying coaches top dollar? HCs got paid through Coaches Circle. Now that B12 revenue is up, BYU is

Preppy

3:34pm

Donors used to be limited in what the University would accept

TNT

5:06pm

I'm sure they aren't. On the other hand, they've allowed what we have thus far. I'm sure results will be the

Bob Vance

4:00pm

No, you're not.

Dark Forest Green

6:09pm

Smartest NIL investment yet. It has potential to impact the program for decades.

AltTabbins

3:15pm

Think of the NBA. His name will always be associated with BYU

TNT

3:17pm

Yes, a transcendent player for the program that we can all cheer on in the NBA

jlangager

3:34pm

It's not my money, so fantastic business move!

zonacougar

4:11pm

ROI from a merch/ticket/etc has gotta be there, even for one season

4:18pm

I doubt he gets that much but I am sure his agent leaked that it would take that

Socrates Johnson

4:23pm

It's a buyers market. Not stepping up means kiss goodbye any other 5*s

Michicoug

4:25pm

Good deal for a Final Four appearance

BYUvermont

4:27pm

No. The tail is already wagging the dog too much.

Threw and Through

4:30pm

But the dog, assuming he is a great player, will always have "BYU" to his name

TNT

5:06pm

NIL (read as Greed) will ruin college sports

CT98

6:00pm

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