There is no such thing as overemphasized controlling TOs

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Sep 8, 2024
1:10:33pm

DirtyWater All-American

If can't secure the ball, you have to sit. That's football.

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Jake Retzlaff: He is who we thought he was (or should have thought he was.)

tkh9

Sep 8, 1:54am

RE: Jake Retzlaff: He is who we thought he was (or should have thought he was.)

MarylandFan

Sep 8, 3:18am

The most promising guy is always the backup QB, right? That is until he turns...

GMGlenn

Sep 8, 8:12am

But if he never gets the opportunity to prove himself, how will we know? Gerry

Das_Countach

Sep 8, 9:53am

I'll take an underdog win like that every day of the week and twice on Sundays,

Team Chaos

Sep 8, 5:27am

ummmm. We don't play on Sundays....

TheHop

Sep 8, 7:39am

Where did OP say that Retzlaff is the only problem? One problem at a time. Stay on subject.

Atmospheric_Cougar

Sep 8, 8:19am

At his best, he's an average or slightly above average QB. Factor in turnovers

tony

Sep 8, 5:39am

I think that is incredibly generous TBH

byuTX

Sep 8, 6:07am

He is not accurate enough to be average.

shimmy

Sep 8, 6:14am

Jake might have played the best in camp, but we all know Jake’s problems start

Short_Changed

Sep 8, 6:42am

Jake’s don’t like getting hit in games a guess… First a Heaps, now a Retzlaff..

cougarmikey

Sep 8, 11:36am

That’s the thing. Gerry has started lots of D1/P4 games. He isn’t the best but

BYU'01

Sep 8, 1:50pm

Jake is ranked in top half of The Big 12 in most categories in an article

Cougarbib

Sep 8, 3:25pm

Last yr only 1 D1 player threw as many passes as JR with a lower pass efficiency

BYU'01

Sep 8, 5:59pm

Nice deflection.

Cougarbib

Sep 8, 8:27pm

Deflection? Time will tell? Time has told pretty clearly Taking 1 FBS game and

BYU'01

Sep 8, 8:41pm

It was a deflection because you never even commented even though the ranking is

Cougarbib

Sep 8, 8:45pm

He is not an average P4 QB, not even close. Outside of SIU, he has barely been

Duke Silver

Sep 8, 6:42am

A 50% thrower is a bad qb, imo.

deliciousmocha

Sep 8, 11:45am

The coaches are fools if they don't play both QB's this Saturday. It's the last non conference game..

Coug

Sep 8, 6:21am

Didn’t they say it on one of our games that coaches asked JR if he was

Lefty24

Sep 8, 7:46am

Not a single personal attack there. All data driven and hard to argue. Good post

blackandblue

Sep 8, 6:28am

Not so fast with the fumbles, buddy.

OverratedHumor

Sep 8, 6:46am

Taysom Hill had 9 fumbles in 2016. 4 fumbles in 4 games in 2014.

MarylandFan

Sep 8, 7:02am

A few things.

OverratedHumor

Sep 8, 7:19am

#2 - a ton to make up for it? Like what?

MarylandFan

Sep 8, 7:23am

RE: #2 - a ton to make up for it? Like what?

OverratedHumor

Sep 8, 7:33am

Hill threw 4 interceptions and lost that game against Dallas in that GIF

MarylandFan

Sep 8, 9:27am

Also, running/ option QBs are intentionally in more situations likely to fumble

NYC and Japan

Sep 8, 7:22am

But so many qbs are running qbs and Jake doesn’t even run much

BYU '80

Sep 8, 8:56am

About a dozen times a game. Positive net yards every game. Not running focus,

NYC and Japan

Sep 8, 1:36pm

RE: Not so fast with the fumbles, buddy.

tony

Sep 8, 8:53am

Not so fast, my friend…

tkh9

Sep 8, 10:41am

We have a large sample size now. How many lost games are we willing to accept…

Lombardi

Sep 8, 7:02am

We were double digit underdogs and won on the field. What loss are we accepting

travelcoug

Sep 8, 7:07am

When you win DESPITE your offense, then

BeyondTheMark

Sep 8, 10:49am

Does anyone know if the broken play he fumbled on was his fault or RB's?

MarylandFan

Sep 8, 7:16am

It was supposed to be a jet sweep. The snap was mistimed.

tkh9

Sep 8, 7:35am

Jake Y/A = 5.2 last year. Jake Y/A = 9.5 right now. I think the worst thing they could do right now is bottle

mokelembembe

Sep 8, 7:18am

Part of the problem is that Across reaction to the TO problem is to throw really

tkh9

Sep 8, 7:55am

How do you know it’s on ARod? We’ve seen multiple examples on replay

BYU '80

Sep 8, 8:57am

We can agree that not every underneath throw is called as the primary target.

tkh9

Sep 8, 10:45am

There is no such thing as overemphasized controlling TOs

DirtyWater

Sep 8, 1:10pm

So how did he get one TO if not a pick and wearing green/yellow/red jerseys?

ImuaKahuku

Sep 8, 7:59am

RE: So how did he get one TO if not a pick and wearing green/yellow/red jerseys?

tkh9

Sep 8, 10:56am

He’s also late on every throw. Even big yardage throws receivers have to come

Longseason

Sep 8, 8:30am

And he also doesn’t see the field well at all!

kahuna

Sep 8, 8:49am

Yes, he’s clearly not seeing downfield. He’s often just biding time to throw the

cougsareforreal

Sep 8, 2:06pm

I said this back a week before fall camp ended his fumbles are an issue

BulldogCoug79

Sep 8, 9:35am

This is Kalani's moment, I hope he too doesn't fumble it.

miblue

Sep 8, 10:29am

RE: Jake Retzlaff: He is who we thought he was (or should have thought he was.)

icecougar

Sep 8, 11:59am

Fixable. Needs to fix it fast. The picks need to stop - might be harder to fix!

Cougarbib

Sep 8, 12:56pm

RE: Jake Retzlaff: He is who we thought he was (or should have thought he was.)

JackieMoon33

Sep 8, 2:34pm

QBs can evolve. Young and Detmer had a lot of TOs. He's not them (yet) we'll see

Celeritas

Sep 8, 2:49pm

Lol He’s not even Matt Berry or Brett Engemann.

byuTX

Sep 8, 4:21pm

RE: QBs can evolve. Young and Detmer had a lot of TOs. He's not them (yet) we'll

JackieMoon33

Sep 8, 5:50pm

Young's 5 TOs cost BYU a win against a top 10 Georgia on the road.

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