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Sep 8, 2024
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BeyondTheMark
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When you win DESPITE your offense, then
You look to correct the problem at hand. Our D looks top 20, our O, bottom of the barrel.
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Jake Retzlaff: He is who we thought he was (or should have thought he was.)
tkh9
Sep 8, 1:54am
RE: Jake Retzlaff: He is who we thought he was (or should have thought he was.)
MarylandFan
Sep 8, 3:18am
The most promising guy is always the backup QB, right? That is until he turns...
GMGlenn
Sep 8, 8:12am
But if he never gets the opportunity to prove himself, how will we know? Gerry
Das_Countach
Sep 8, 9:53am
I'll take an underdog win like that every day of the week and twice on Sundays,
Team Chaos
Sep 8, 5:27am
ummmm. We don't play on Sundays....
TheHop
Sep 8, 7:39am
Where did OP say that Retzlaff is the only problem? One problem at a time. Stay on subject.
Atmospheric_Cougar
Sep 8, 8:19am
At his best, he's an average or slightly above average QB. Factor in turnovers
tony
Sep 8, 5:39am
I think that is incredibly generous TBH
byuTX
Sep 8, 6:07am
He is not accurate enough to be average.
shimmy
Sep 8, 6:14am
Jake might have played the best in camp, but we all know Jake’s problems start
Short_Changed
Sep 8, 6:42am
Jake’s don’t like getting hit in games a guess… First a Heaps, now a Retzlaff..
cougarmikey
Sep 8, 11:36am
That’s the thing. Gerry has started lots of D1/P4 games. He isn’t the best but
BYU'01
Sep 8, 1:50pm
Jake is ranked in top half of The Big 12 in most categories in an article
Cougarbib
Sep 8, 3:25pm
Last yr only 1 D1 player threw as many passes as JR with a lower pass efficiency
BYU'01
Sep 8, 5:59pm
Nice deflection.
Cougarbib
Sep 8, 8:27pm
Deflection? Time will tell? Time has told pretty clearly Taking 1 FBS game and
BYU'01
Sep 8, 8:41pm
It was a deflection because you never even commented even though the ranking is
Cougarbib
Sep 8, 8:45pm
He is not an average P4 QB, not even close. Outside of SIU, he has barely been
Duke Silver
Sep 8, 6:42am
A 50% thrower is a bad qb, imo.
deliciousmocha
Sep 8, 11:45am
The coaches are fools if they don't play both QB's this Saturday. It's the last non conference game..
Coug
Sep 8, 6:21am
Didn’t they say it on one of our games that coaches asked JR if he was
Lefty24
Sep 8, 7:46am
Not a single personal attack there. All data driven and hard to argue. Good post
blackandblue
Sep 8, 6:28am
Not so fast with the fumbles, buddy.
OverratedHumor
Sep 8, 6:46am
Taysom Hill had 9 fumbles in 2016. 4 fumbles in 4 games in 2014.
MarylandFan
Sep 8, 7:02am
A few things.
OverratedHumor
Sep 8, 7:19am
#2 - a ton to make up for it? Like what?
MarylandFan
Sep 8, 7:23am
RE: #2 - a ton to make up for it? Like what?
OverratedHumor
Sep 8, 7:33am
Hill threw 4 interceptions and lost that game against Dallas in that GIF
MarylandFan
Sep 8, 9:27am
Also, running/ option QBs are intentionally in more situations likely to fumble
NYC and Japan
Sep 8, 7:22am
But so many qbs are running qbs and Jake doesn’t even run much
BYU '80
Sep 8, 8:56am
About a dozen times a game. Positive net yards every game. Not running focus,
NYC and Japan
Sep 8, 1:36pm
RE: Not so fast with the fumbles, buddy.
tony
Sep 8, 8:53am
Not so fast, my friend…
tkh9
Sep 8, 10:41am
We have a large sample size now. How many lost games are we willing to accept…
Lombardi
Sep 8, 7:02am
We were double digit underdogs and won on the field. What loss are we accepting
travelcoug
Sep 8, 7:07am
When you win DESPITE your offense, then
BeyondTheMark
Sep 8, 10:49am
Does anyone know if the broken play he fumbled on was his fault or RB's?
MarylandFan
Sep 8, 7:16am
It was supposed to be a jet sweep. The snap was mistimed.
tkh9
Sep 8, 7:35am
Jake Y/A = 5.2 last year. Jake Y/A = 9.5 right now. I think the worst thing they could do right now is bottle
mokelembembe
Sep 8, 7:18am
Part of the problem is that Across reaction to the TO problem is to throw really
tkh9
Sep 8, 7:55am
How do you know it’s on ARod? We’ve seen multiple examples on replay
BYU '80
Sep 8, 8:57am
We can agree that not every underneath throw is called as the primary target.
tkh9
Sep 8, 10:45am
There is no such thing as overemphasized controlling TOs
DirtyWater
Sep 8, 1:10pm
So how did he get one TO if not a pick and wearing green/yellow/red jerseys?
ImuaKahuku
Sep 8, 7:59am
RE: So how did he get one TO if not a pick and wearing green/yellow/red jerseys?
tkh9
Sep 8, 10:56am
He’s also late on every throw. Even big yardage throws receivers have to come
Longseason
Sep 8, 8:30am
And he also doesn’t see the field well at all!
kahuna
Sep 8, 8:49am
Yes, he’s clearly not seeing downfield. He’s often just biding time to throw the
cougsareforreal
Sep 8, 2:06pm
I said this back a week before fall camp ended his fumbles are an issue
BulldogCoug79
Sep 8, 9:35am
This is Kalani's moment, I hope he too doesn't fumble it.
miblue
Sep 8, 10:29am
RE: Jake Retzlaff: He is who we thought he was (or should have thought he was.)
icecougar
Sep 8, 11:59am
Fixable. Needs to fix it fast. The picks need to stop - might be harder to fix!
Cougarbib
Sep 8, 12:56pm
RE: Jake Retzlaff: He is who we thought he was (or should have thought he was.)
JackieMoon33
Sep 8, 2:34pm
QBs can evolve. Young and Detmer had a lot of TOs. He's not them (yet) we'll see
Celeritas
Sep 8, 2:49pm
Lol He’s not even Matt Berry or Brett Engemann.
byuTX
Sep 8, 4:21pm
RE: QBs can evolve. Young and Detmer had a lot of TOs. He's not them (yet) we'll
JackieMoon33
Sep 8, 5:50pm
Young's 5 TOs cost BYU a win against a top 10 Georgia on the road.
Celeritas
Sep 8, 6:56pm
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