So Judge being the 68th out of 71st CF in baseball adds a lot of value

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Sep 2, 2024
10:33:34pm

Medute Truly Addicted User

So Judge being the 68th out of 71st CF in baseball adds a lot of value

I mean, I know he adds value by playing, but I would consider that a defensive liability rather than a positive effect on the team.

Also, how do you define 5th best hitter? The Fangraphs page I linked earlier has him as the 2nd highest offensive rated player in baseball behind Judge.

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the 44-44 club has it's first member

Count Cougar

Sep 2, 3:53pm

Just stop. When he hits the next multiple of 10, shout it. Until then, stop

Corn Pop

Sep 2, 3:55pm

Well, at least we know he can live up to his board name. I would have just taken

cougaman

Sep 2, 3:58pm

He's gonna hit 50-50 isn't he. Unbelievable player.

pinolero

Sep 2, 3:56pm

Yep, second best player in the mlb this year.

Sep 2, 3:58pm

He and Judge have been amazing

crimedog

Sep 2, 3:59pm

It was cooler when Acuña Jr. did 40-70 last year while being the best player in baseball.

TCuz

Sep 2, 4:00pm

*79. Acuna was insane with steals last year

crimedog

Sep 2, 4:02pm

It’s really crazy how much people are freaking out about it given how much

maxpowers

Sep 2, 4:02pm

It’s never been done. Of course they are. That doesn’t take away from Acuna. His was amazing as well

crimedog

Sep 2, 4:10pm

What is your definition of elite? I'd say he's having a fairly elite season. He may win MVP as a DH.

Colorado

Sep 2, 5:08pm

Not 6.5 fWAR.

TCuz

Sep 2, 5:12pm

As a DH, it's pretty elite

Colorado

Sep 2, 5:25pm

A ginormous qualifier

TCuz

Sep 2, 5:28pm

Well, in a normal season, he'd be at around 10 or 11 right now

Colorado

Sep 2, 5:31pm

You keep adding huge qualifiers to your post which is the exact issue at hand

TCuz

Sep 2, 5:34pm

Yep. It's a typical ridiculous TCuz take. As if Ohtani's incredible season

Sep 2, 5:29pm

Hey, since you brought him up, if Judge had Ohtani’s current offensive season, his career average wRC+ would go down.

TCuz

Sep 2, 5:35pm

That's great. A stat that ignores 46 stolen bases. Nice work. You seem really

Sep 2, 5:45pm

We could compare their WAR instead if you want to capture baserunning runs. You brought him up, this was about Acuña Jr

TCuz

Sep 2, 5:51pm

As it should be considering Judge lacks a key tool to be part of the discussion.

Sep 2, 6:18pm

I’d be very upset as a Yankees fan with that trade. Judge is much better.

Sep 2, 8:03pm

Lol. Judge is not "much better". He may not even be better at all. A better hitter? Sure. But there is a reason

Colorado

Sep 2, 9:22pm

RE: I’d be very upset as a Yankees fan with that trade. Judge is much

Sep 2, 10:22pm

Not an elite season? Get a grip. Seriously such a bad take.

Jelly Man

Sep 2, 5:28pm

The 194th best single season fWAR since 2000. How low are your standards for “elite?”

TCuz

Sep 2, 5:38pm

Your piano has one single key. Keep playing that fWAR note.

Jelly Man

Sep 2, 5:58pm

Well that wasn’t a response.

TCuz

Sep 2, 5:59pm

The season isn't even over. There is a month left.

Colorado

Sep 2, 6:03pm

Think he’ll hit Top 150, maybe?

TCuz

Sep 2, 6:07pm

It's funny when people get hung up on a stat and don't just appreciate greatness

Medute

Sep 2, 6:34pm

That's interesting that DH is so penalized. Couldn't an argument be made that a DH like Ohtani potentially masks the

Colorado

Sep 2, 7:34pm

It’s funnier when people just don’t make statistical arguments and just hand wave things they don’t like

TCuz

Sep 2, 7:41pm

I don’t know if it’s “huge”. With the switch to DH for the NL, the impact of

Medute

Sep 2, 9:07pm

This post shows a pretty big misunderstanding of how WAR works, specifically the positional adjustment

TCuz

Sep 2, 9:58pm

So Judge being the 68th out of 71st CF in baseball adds a lot of value

Medute

Sep 2, 10:33pm

He’s 5th in wRC+. 1. Judge 220 2. Soto 181 3. Witt Jr 173 4. Alvarez 171 5. Ohtani 168

TCuz

Sep 2, 10:51pm

wRC+ is a convenient stat to ignore the fact Ohtani will have 50 to 60 stolen

Sep 2, 11:58pm

There’s a good point here about capturing all offensive contributions, and then the last two paragraphs are nonsense

TCuz

Sep 3, 7:31am

What is Judge’s?

Sep 2, 7:17pm

just stole 2nd then 3rd, 45 and 46 stolen base

Count Cougar

Sep 2, 4:06pm

Oven mitts and pizza boxes help.

mbs6

Sep 2, 4:19pm

I appreciate the updates. Despite paying for MLB, I can’t watch vs DBacks

Medute

Sep 2, 4:34pm

You pay for the out of market MLB package. You live in market for the Diamondbacks.

TCuz

Sep 2, 4:40pm

It's hard to appreciate when a big reason is rule changes.

Sep 2, 4:54pm

Yep, hard to appreciate an all star pitcher having the 2nd most HRs and SBs in

Sep 2, 5:34pm

All-Star pitcher? Must’ve missed that.

TCuz

Sep 2, 5:42pm

Are you claiming he hasn't been an all star as a pitcher? Weird claim.

Sep 2, 6:15pm

I’d love to see a pitch he’s ever thrown in a Dodger uniform, or any this year for that matter

TCuz

Sep 2, 6:16pm

Now who's adding qualifiers?

Sep 2, 6:19pm

I fully appreciate his unique skill set. He's unreal.

Sep 2, 11:05pm

Lindor MVP

shimmy

Sep 2, 6:04pm

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