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Nov 29, 2023
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VACougMD
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Big 12 fans expect Utah who has had P5 money for over a decade to perform the
same as 4 programs who haven’t?
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Accurate.
CPAcoug87
11/29/23 2:58pm
In before UtahfootballGM thumbs down
BYUheaven
11/29/23 3:01pm
Keeping you on your toes...he went with eyeroll this time
TaysomJimmerEraCoug
11/29/23 4:54pm
Meh. The picture would better depict Utes
CasualFan
11/29/23 3:02pm
Texas was the big fish in the small pond. Utah is now one
TFL
11/29/23 3:13pm
Big 12 fans expect Utah who has had P5 money for over a decade to perform the
VACougMD
11/29/23 3:16pm
Yes, that's the problem they have with the Utah base. The narrative that the Pac 12
TFL
11/29/23 3:25pm
Utah fans continue to conflate conference inclusion with talent.
Madam Pattirini
11/29/23 3:48pm
Both P12 and B12 inclusions have several things in common though
TFL
11/29/23 4:20pm
Why don't you go police your own fans and their terrible realignment opinions?
CPAcoug87
11/29/23 4:35pm
Well said. I agree.
TFL
11/29/23 5:11pm
And most of us knew B12 was Utahs floor.
kiyoshige
11/29/23 6:16pm
Yes, but both come from a small population state shared by another P5
TFL
11/29/23 10:59pm
Your first point was plenty for TFL to try to comprehend. He should answer it.
Atmospheric_Cougar
11/29/23 10:19pm
It works both ways - every Utah loss will be nice
jetycns
11/29/23 3:54pm
Agreed. That adds to the fun on both sides and having someone play the role as conf villain.
TFL
11/29/23 4:59pm
Not “villain, but…
Robbinoburrito
11/29/23 5:06pm
Utah barely came away with a win against a very pitiful Baylor team.
Lefty24
11/29/23 5:10pm
A win is a win.
Big-Q
11/29/23 7:21pm
The pac 12 accd to Sagarin is exactly the same conference in ‘23 it has been
BYU '80
11/29/23 8:46pm
Stop playing the victim card. No big12 fans think Utah will perform like the 4
BYUheaven
11/29/23 3:26pm
No...just the BYU fans and online twitter Big 12 guys think that. That's what's so ironic
TFL
11/29/23 3:37pm
BYU fans and Twitter are only ones exposed to Utah fans' opinions. . .
Madam Pattirini
11/29/23 3:50pm
Not really. When Utah got invited, no one was surprised but this small, awkward group. That group lost any validity
TFL
11/29/23 4:22pm
Oh, you mean the small group of BOT and Administrators at BYU that wanted the Utes in the Big 12
coot20
11/29/23 4:44pm
Or b12 fans see Utah for what they are and utahs own prez clearly doesn’t
BYU '80
11/29/23 8:49pm
Big12 fans have varying opinions on how Utah will perform. But they all agree
bluesloth
11/29/23 3:42pm
Nah.. just the twitter guys who spent the summer splaining to Utah fans that they'd get left out.
TFL
11/29/23 3:51pm
RE: Nah.. just the twitter guys who spent the summer splaining to Utah fans that
Millhouse
11/29/23 4:00pm
For one, you won’t have to take on TX and OU
kiyoshige
11/29/23 6:21pm
Good point. TX killed Utah in 2019. Downside to the whole BYU Indy argument
TFL
11/29/23 6:30pm
I think the vocal minority of CB Utah haters
kiyoshige
11/29/23 8:05pm
That’s why they lost for three years in a horrid p12. Upward trajectory
BYU '80
11/29/23 8:53pm
Once upon a time the beat Alabama in a bowl game as a G5
kiyoshige
11/29/23 9:55pm
Then if what you say is true they should have taken the p12 by storm. They didn’
BYU '80
11/29/23 10:12pm
You wouldn’t have even won the south this year and it stunk
BYU '80
11/29/23 8:52pm
That's the whole point though. Utah is 22-4 the last 5 full seasons vs. the South. 4-1 this year despite
TFL
11/30/23 5:17pm
RE: Texas was the big fish in the small pond. Utah is now one
Longseason
11/29/23 3:56pm
Literally proving the X-post accurate. Never change Ute homers living on CB. LOL
Atmospheric_Cougar
11/29/23 4:09pm
Wow. If Utah performs much better than BYU next season, I will be surprised. 😲
Robbinoburrito
11/29/23 4:42pm
Are you as optimistic in basketball and other sports? Don't be
CLCougar
11/29/23 4:46pm
No. Not at all. There's no logical reason to think Utah's MBB will be anything more than mediocre. FB
TFL
11/29/23 5:31pm
Getting worked by one of the other teams joining
CasualFan
11/29/23 5:40pm
So...an injury plagued Utah in a down year is 3-1 vs. new Big 12 — and that means they'll struggle
TFL
11/29/23 6:02pm
Nice strawman argument. G5/Indy -> P5 is not the same as P5 -> P5
TaysomJimmerEraCoug
11/29/23 4:55pm
You get it. It's a silly argument. That's why it's so fun. Like when they all claimed Utah was out of B12
TFL
11/29/23 11:06pm
Texas is a Blueblood program & top 2-3 for fanbase size/financial value
BamaCoug
11/29/23 6:00pm
Utah is a top 40 - 60 program from a small populous state with no history in CFB and G5 origins
TFL
11/30/23 1:52pm
Let me sum it more simply. Ute fans online are viewed as arrogant jerks
Atmospheric_Cougar
11/30/23 10:36pm
Perennial 4 loss team. Decent, not great. Will compete in B12. Might win once
niqmadu
11/30/23 9:02am
The Big 12 will be fun. With Rising coming back along with what looks like a terrific team
TFL
11/30/23 6:09pm
Ever the optimist
niqmadu
11/30/23 6:48pm
Utah fans coming into the Big12
kccougar
11/29/23 3:18pm
RE: Accurate.
MrTootles
11/29/23 6:07pm
Crisco hair ☑️ 90s Goatee ☑️ Sleeves? ☑️ Why-am-not-employed? Neck Tats ☑️
canofpicante
11/30/23 9:31am
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