Sep 27, 2022
1:24:02pm
1:24:02pm
I mean, you can make fun of it, but literally anyone who evaluates players professionally can see the difference between
things that stats don’t show. Almost anyone who played or coached a particular position at any level HS or above can too.
I’m sure you can too even though you deride it, and even if you can’t yet, you’d be able to see the difference if we watched film and it was pointed out to you.
But just to make an obvious example: Riley chucking up a 35-yard pass immediately before taking a sack, which Hoffman comes back to and out-jumps a smaller CB who had better position to make a catch is going to be statistically identical to a perfectly placed 35-yard post in which Beck releases to Nate Meikel two steps before his break and meets him in the small space between him and the safety on the side of his body away from the CB from whom he couldn’t quite separate.
Stats rate them equally. But you’re right, the eyeball test doesn’t.
They aren’t the same.
I’m sure you can too even though you deride it, and even if you can’t yet, you’d be able to see the difference if we watched film and it was pointed out to you.
But just to make an obvious example: Riley chucking up a 35-yard pass immediately before taking a sack, which Hoffman comes back to and out-jumps a smaller CB who had better position to make a catch is going to be statistically identical to a perfectly placed 35-yard post in which Beck releases to Nate Meikel two steps before his break and meets him in the small space between him and the safety on the side of his body away from the CB from whom he couldn’t quite separate.
Stats rate them equally. But you’re right, the eyeball test doesn’t.
They aren’t the same.
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9/27/22 10:19am
i still don't have the confidence in him that I had with Wilson, Max, Beck (Sr. yr) or Sark. By the end of the year
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I wouldnt compare Hall to Detmer, I think he is a better, more athletic version of Senior Year John Beck.
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Of course it’s debatable. We’re here debating it. I’m not saying Jaren isn’t great or even that his stats aren’t better.
9/27/22 12:50pm
I mean, you can make fun of it, but literally anyone who evaluates players professionally can see the difference between
9/27/22 1:24pm
Sound good, bro. No one is saying they are the same. In case you missed the OP he was comparing Hall to Detmer.
9/27/22 4:00pm
I didn’t make an appeal to authority. I just explained where I’ve watched them and specifically said you *don’t* have
9/27/22 5:08pm
I would bet that Jaren Hall gets drafted similar to where Beck was drafted, but that he will have a better career.
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