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Dec 18, 2020
7:21:27am

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If everyone is cheating, then no one is

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I think Usain Bolt was cheating the whole time.

Iman23

12/18/20 7:15am

I have been saying that for years. It's so blatantly obvious.

RexIdaCoug

12/18/20 7:17am

What makes you think, in a sport marred with cheating, that the fastest person was cheating?

Skeeziks

12/18/20 7:18am

That's the conundrum, right? When steroid use is so widespread that it's

deljdc

12/18/20 8:28am

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rad dawg

12/18/20 7:19am

I agree. It has a very Lance Armstrong feel to things.

wjman11

12/18/20 7:20am

Difference:

moabmax

12/18/20 9:14am

Lance Armstrong taught me that if you are dominating a sport where everyone else is clearly cheating, you are just

YIsForBrigham

12/18/20 7:20am

I don’t think they’re better at cheating, I just think they’re better. Cheating just sets the baseline. Talent wins out

Odysseus

12/18/20 7:28am

I think you’re wrong. There’s a certain level of talent and drive you need to win a sport where everyone else is

YIsForBrigham

12/18/20 7:34am

I don't think he's saying they are not cheating, he's saying that they are

cougaman

12/18/20 8:10am

In my mind, "better at cheating" means "better at not getting caught".

dilbert

12/18/20 8:21am

I don't think that everyone gets the same boost by doing the same thing. Just

cougaman

12/18/20 8:43am

Yes. I don’t think Bolt has some magical cheating formula. His cheating is probably on par with the competition, and

Odysseus

12/18/20 9:48am

Actually this is not true....

mbcougar

12/18/20 8:55am

That’s a good point, and kind of what I’m saying. The level of cheating is probably around the same, just like the level

Odysseus

12/18/20 9:49am

Not because of doping. Bionic implants. Its been a growing problem in sports

SFarkus

12/18/20 10:06am

RE: I don’t think they’re better at cheating, I just think

akbarishiwatsu

12/18/20 11:18am

Barry Bonds

TheWoodman

12/18/20 7:52am

Exactly why I've reached the conclusion something funky has been afoot in

Mitty

12/18/20 9:39am

If everyone is cheating, then no one is

LiveCoug

12/18/20 7:21am

That’s like saying everyone is stealing so its not a crime

BYU Grounds

12/18/20 8:03am

Not exactly. Stealing has victims. If everyone is truly cheating

LifeLongLakerFan

12/18/20 8:10am

The victims are those who are not cheating and would be able to make the

Y05

12/18/20 8:20am

But the premise was "everyone is cheating" so noone is not cheating.

Iron Coug

12/18/20 8:56am

Well, I guess in a hypothetical with 100% of the population doping

Y05

12/18/20 9:04am

RE: Not exactly. Stealing has victims. If everyone is truly cheating

Hops

12/18/20 8:57am

Name checks out

HootnHoller

12/18/20 9:05am

Where is this coming from?

Coop

12/18/20 7:21am

I used to think he wasn't. Then I saw a list of the fastest 100 M times ever run

Iman23

12/18/20 7:27am

He’s built like no other sprinter ever

Coop

12/18/20 7:41am

His unique physical build is what sets him apart IMO.

Adwight

12/18/20 7:50am

Possibly, but it doesn't fully explain his level of dominance.

IrishBlue

12/18/20 8:20am

Is your assertion that tall people haven't been sprinters before and he is

RexIdaCoug

12/18/20 10:08am

In no way, shape, or form was he an “average” junior runner.

redraider88

12/18/20 7:48am

200M has always been his better event because of his churn. 100M came later

Iman23

12/18/20 8:13am

But that’s not your argument

redraider88

12/18/20 8:24am

It was part of my argument. Was he an elite 100 M runner? No. Was he an elite

Iman23

12/18/20 9:51am

Of note: check out this clip

redraider88

12/18/20 7:54am

I'm guessing it was prompted by this

Y05

12/18/20 7:41am

RE: Where is this coming from?

SpiffCoug

12/18/20 7:53am

Old news

Coop

12/18/20 7:58am

It is a dated article. I don't know why the OP was made, but this article does hint that Bolt may have been doping.

SpiffCoug

12/18/20 8:31am

It’s not about who is cheating

CougarCanuck76

12/18/20 7:22am

Yep.

dilbert

12/18/20 7:26am

Is it the off season already?

Corn Pop

12/18/20 7:27am

Did I miss something? Is there Usain news?

tarmstrong

12/18/20 7:30am

Nope. Just a random thought for the day...

Iman23

12/18/20 7:41am

Will his numbers have Florence Griffith Joyner type staying power, her records

RC Vikings

12/18/20 7:32am

Probably not. PED advancements will take him down in the next decade

LiveCoug

12/18/20 7:34am

This^^^^ they’ll develop technology and retest samples

1984coug

12/18/20 8:30am

RE: Probably not. PED advancements will take him down in the next decade

JAGA97

12/18/20 10:57am

and she promptly retired before she would be subject to additional testing.

Thrill

12/18/20 11:44am

This guy makes a pretty good case that you are right

OU Cougar

12/18/20 7:45am

Those colors represent Jamaica. Not Oregon. We're talking Olympics now

Y05

12/18/20 8:04am

Time will tell

redraider88

12/18/20 7:56am

Go watch Netflix movie Icarus

BYU Grounds

12/18/20 8:05am

As one last point, what product would he have been using?

redraider88

12/18/20 8:28am

$$$

1984coug

12/18/20 8:30am

Great movie. Would have been interesting had the main guy been 10 years younger.

deljdc

12/18/20 8:35am

He makes a point to say that no matter how much steroid use he used, he wouldn't

1984coug

12/18/20 9:23am

Thanks for the recommendation. I just finished. It’s nuts.

Negative Equity

12/18/20 11:40pm

I think the whole Jamaican men and woman's team was using

RC Vikings

12/18/20 8:08am

What??? Was Usain Bolt caught cheating?? When??

lalochile

12/18/20 8:31am

The problem with doping...

Hops

12/18/20 9:07am

Got a link to that?

Fishious

12/18/20 9:19am

Here you go:

Hops

12/18/20 9:27am

Awesome, thank you.

Fishious

12/18/20 10:27am

Interesting.

dilbert

12/18/20 10:44am

I remember reading years ago about a Scandinavian thrower at byu

HootnHoller

12/18/20 9:44am

I remember a guy that fit your description...

BlueMark

12/18/20 11:04am

Michael Phelps too, and all of those top swimmers

StapleGun

12/18/20 9:38am

Same with Albert Pujols

MGM

12/18/20 9:50am

Well Jamaica started winning track events when a certain

niqmadu

12/18/20 10:41am

Do you feel Lebron is cheating, too?

StalwartBraveTrue

12/18/20 10:51am

All of the Jamaican runners were cheating better than the other runners were cheating....

HarlemCoug

12/18/20 11:02am

Voodoo-cardio.

SinkingQuffa

12/18/20 11:25am

I've been saying for years that Jamaica's sudden dominance in sprints is unusual

Thrill

12/18/20 11:46am

The entire Jamaican sprinting contingent is cheating.

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