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Mar 1, 2019
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CougaRR4L
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Yes. Gonzaga getting better has no bearing on BYU losing to sub .500 teams.
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Duke to the Mountain West!! & BYU sews up 3rd regular season WCC championship
Greg4BYU
3/1/19 11:40am
Though the ACC is tougher top to bottom than the WCC will ever be
pegushin
3/1/19 11:44am
WCC without Gonzaga would be trash. Would we be satisfied w/ 3 titles in 8 yrs?
Martin Van Nostrand
3/1/19 11:47am
Point taken. BYU cannot compare itself to Gonzaga right now.
mudpupper
3/1/19 11:48am
No one expects BYU to take over the Zags and the WCC... Another year has gone by
BYUheaven
3/1/19 11:52am
w/out Gonzaga BYU would have won the WCC autobid last year over #25 SMC
Greg4BYU
3/1/19 11:58am
BYU also would have won the autobid in 2014 and in 2015 without the Zags and...
Greg4BYU
3/1/19 12:08pm
We made the tournament plenty of times in the MWC without EVER winning the auto
BYUheaven
3/1/19 12:13pm
If Gonzaga didn't exist, the WCC would be the Big Sky/BigWest/WAC.
jackcrack7
3/1/19 12:09pm
This is part of the problem. There are BYU fans that actually believe this.
Gentleman Stan
3/1/19 12:49pm
Yup
rggee
3/1/19 1:32pm
That huge space between those groups is because of Gonzaga.
jackcrack7
3/1/19 2:38pm
The MWC has had two recent seasons as an auto-bid league. This isn't their worst
Gentleman Stan
3/1/19 3:11pm
I'm not overlooking San Francisco. This year is an anomaly.
jackcrack7
3/1/19 7:35pm
MWC>WCC>Big West>Big Sky
WannabeAA
3/1/19 3:10pm
Mathematically the WCC is better than the MWC.
Gentleman Stan
3/1/19 5:53pm
Can you educate me? Not seeing it.
WannabeAA
3/1/19 9:21pm
Sure. Kenpom and Net Rankings, the most accurate metrics available.
Gentleman Stan
3/1/19 10:11pm
RE: Sure. Kenpom and Net Rankings, the most accurate metrics available.
WannabeAA
3/1/19 10:41pm
NET is brand new this year. KenPom has the MW as the better league most years.
jackcrack7
3/2/19 11:22am
Wasn't thinking this season only, but I see how my comment can be interpreted
WannabeAA
3/1/19 10:42pm
The problem isn't that Gonzaga has gotten better.
CMuehle
3/1/19 12:13pm
^^^^this is the truth right here
BYUheaven
3/1/19 12:15pm
Yep, would love to be the Tar Heels to Duke in this conference
pegushin
3/1/19 12:16pm
It's not hard to get worse from your best ever year with your best ever player.
rggee
3/1/19 12:18pm
But to fall that far to where we are less than average since 1997?
pegushin
3/1/19 12:19pm
We would have been fine if our players didn't keep bailing to go play in Europe
rggee
3/1/19 12:21pm
That's on the coach to 1. Keep players and 2. Fill in the holes with talent if
BYUheaven
3/1/19 12:27pm
To the Zags credit though, they have gotten better since 2011
Parkcity_and
3/1/19 2:45pm
Yes. Gonzaga getting better has no bearing on BYU losing to sub .500 teams.
CougaRR4L
3/1/19 10:10pm
It’s not literally year after year, but the general trajectory is sadly accurate
Coop
3/2/19 7:10am
This man gets it. It isn’t the games vs. GU. It’s the games vs. The field.
StalwartBraveTrue
3/2/19 9:03am
College basketball teams don't win every road game unless they are elite.
rggee
3/2/19 10:06am
Um, what? Who said that?
StalwartBraveTrue
3/3/19 9:45pm
We would have won the WCC Tournament... Right...
EternalOptimism
3/1/19 12:17pm
Rose does fine in conference tournaments against teams outside GU and UNLV on
rggee
3/1/19 12:20pm
In 13 tournaments, Rose is 17-5 against teams not named UNLV or GU
rggee
3/1/19 12:28pm
Including 9-2 in the WCC (7 tournaments)
rggee
3/1/19 12:29pm
Yeah, but a lot of those teams were stiffs.
CMuehle
3/1/19 12:42pm
Well yeah we're always in the top 3 seeds of the tournaments...that's a silly
rggee
3/1/19 12:45pm
No sillier than touting Rose's record against the bottom
CMuehle
3/1/19 1:02pm
RE: Duke to the Mountain West!! & BYU sews up 3rd regular season WCC
WannabeAA
3/1/19 1:08pm
I’m actually surprised how many people missed the point.
StalwartBraveTrue
3/1/19 3:55pm
And when we beat GU in the WCC finals this year......
TunaNoCrust
3/1/19 4:01pm
Finishing 2nd in 3 of 8 seasons is not consistency
Coop
3/2/19 7:08am
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