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I'm referring to his curiosity to know who Anae thinks are better coaches
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The Utah-Anae story...
shoganai
2/9/13 9:32am
Thanks. Interesting information.
CG4BYU
2/9/13 9:40am
The fact that Anae didn't receive a single straightup OC offer other
oxcoug
2/9/13 11:19am
I think you and I read different story than me. I read that Utah offered
pappabear246
2/9/13 1:26pm
Per Shog's account Anae initially received a co/assistant OC
oxcoug
2/9/13 1:57pm
it means Whit was trying to save face and let BJ keep his title but was always
pappabear246
2/9/13 4:33pm
And yet: It was not an unconditional OC offer. Whitt had to be
oxcoug
2/10/13 9:48am
The way I read it, it seems to me that the full offer was after he
pappabear246
2/10/13 1:50pm
This also speaks volumes about what Anae thinks BYU can do. If he didn't believ
TXSmith
2/9/13 9:46am
I think most of it is loyalty to BYU.
idacoug
2/9/13 9:51am
If Anae has total control of his staff, does Cahoon have any chance at rehiring?
Don't Muff It
2/9/13 9:47am
I guess you'll find out in the next two weeks
SausageKingOfChicago
2/9/13 10:11am
Did Ben cahoots even reapply?
mike2744
2/9/13 11:16am
I'm referring to his curiosity to know who Anae thinks are better coaches
SausageKingOfChicago
2/9/13 12:00pm
What did Cahoon accomplish that was so impressive? I didn't see much to be imp-
coastcat
2/9/13 3:58pm
The entire offensive staff needed to go, no question.
kabslc
2/9/13 4:16pm
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kabslc
2/9/13 4:17pm
I must have missed where or when Doman proved he was a good coach
kabslc
2/9/13 10:13am
I didn't say he was good, but I'm curious to see who Anae thinks would be better
Don't Muff It
2/9/13 10:20am
Yes, good points. Anae's comments about running the QB does change
kabslc
2/9/13 10:26am
Nobody has ever even mentioned the thought of Jim McMahon as QB coach
pappabear246
2/9/13 1:31pm
Ha! I'd be all for it!
kabslc
2/9/13 2:43pm
Unfortunately for Jimmy Mac, he'd forget what to coach or that there is an HC.
coastcat
2/9/13 4:02pm
Which is why BYU needs to do the right, classy thing and retire his
kabslc
2/9/13 4:14pm
TH would do it if allowed. I agree, good will and ultimate recognition
coastcat
2/9/13 4:44pm
RE: Which is why BYU needs to do the right, classy thing and retire his
85fan
2/9/13 5:28pm
I think BYU has been giving JimmyMac more love the last couple of years
pappabear246
2/10/13 1:51pm
I hope so!
kabslc
2/11/13 8:51am
I hope so!
kabslc
2/11/13 8:52am
I said what I said in jest but do bet Jimmy would have made a great coach
pappabear246
2/11/13 12:16pm
A relative of Cahoon said there is a slim chance he could be rehired
HuskerCoug
2/9/13 4:47pm
Can you blame Whitt tho?
Ashtrash
2/9/13 9:47am
Whit hiring BJ as an OC was just plain stupid imo
idacoug
2/9/13 9:47am
I don't know why he's so intent on finding a mentor for BJ.
cougarstolz
2/9/13 10:20am
A couple thoughts
DapperDan
2/9/13 9:52am
The SHO Taurus is pretty nice, though.
Steve O'Rama
2/9/13 10:04am
coming to the train-wreck that is utah isn't going to help erickson's resume...
ds7
2/9/13 10:08am
desperation and ego can do funny things
DapperDan
2/9/13 10:10am
He is also 65 and may be looking to secure his 401k
PrisonMike
2/9/13 10:11am
great conclusions
Blue2thebone
2/9/13 10:06am
And yet we still keep losing to them
AudiS4
2/9/13 10:07am
there were a few years there where air force kept beating notre dame...
ds7
2/9/13 10:09am
Perhaps the anomaly was the Edwards era?
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 10:40am
The anomaly is the fact Utah can only get up for one game a year.
CG4BYU
2/9/13 10:48am
Slow down there, fella.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 10:54am
Except for the fact that, outside of that game, BYU has continued to be a
Gentleman Stan
2/9/13 12:38pm
Yeah, BYU has done a ton this past decade...
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 1:08pm
You have a short memory, we played the same teams until 2 years ago
CG4BYU
2/9/13 1:15pm
Ummm...2 undefeated seasons in the past decade?
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 1:18pm
I gave you credit for 2 good out of 30, and actually it was about Anae turning
CG4BYU
2/9/13 1:40pm
Lol. Since LaVell retired, BYU has had 6 ranked finishes, which
Gentleman Stan
2/9/13 1:41pm
He doesnt
CG4BYU
2/9/13 1:48pm
Oh man, you owned me! I'm raging with jealousy.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 3:00pm
If it is so easy, why didn't Utah accomplish it more often?
messi
2/9/13 3:44pm
First, we are talking about the last decade...
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:16pm
Right. And the last decade includes
Gentleman Stan
2/9/13 5:23pm
Again, if you wanna cling to your 10 win seasons, go ahead.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:27pm
See we have a NC to hug and hold too. You have the PAC 10.2 banner
CG4BYU
2/9/13 5:36pm
How do you hug your national championship?
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:38pm
Simple, its a trophy in a case. I know its hard for yewt fans to invision one.
CG4BYU
2/9/13 5:47pm
So go and hug the case? Creepy.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:49pm
No creepier then your guys love for pac 10 stickers and pirate ships
CG4BYU
2/9/13 5:52pm
No, hugging the case is creepier.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:53pm
Well i guess to little brother cuddling his PAC 10 blanky is kind of innocent
CG4BYU
2/9/13 6:06pm
Cuddling a blanket is appropriate.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 6:10pm
Only those without one would say that ;)
CG4BYU
2/9/13 6:32pm
Again, if you want to cling to a couple
Gentleman Stan
2/9/13 5:40pm
I disagree. College football fans read the rankings every week.
messi
2/9/13 5:25pm
Nobody remembers if a team finishes 20th with a Veg Bowl win.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:28pm
As opposed to a non ranked, losing conference record, no body?
CG4BYU
2/9/13 5:38pm
I never claimed that a losing season in the P12 meant anything.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:39pm
You said you have the comfort of a undefeated season, so what..Ohio did
CG4BYU
2/9/13 5:44pm
I hope you enjoyed '84. It's probably the last you'll see of them
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:47pm
Still one more then you. So I will. Thanks
CG4BYU
2/9/13 5:49pm
I was being serious. I hope you enjoyed it.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:52pm
Not what I said. They recognize teams that are consistently
messi
2/9/13 5:40pm
It says nothing.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:41pm
Actually it does say something, when recruits talk about 10 win seasons
CG4BYU
2/9/13 5:50pm
Link? Recruits want to go to the NFL, play in big bowl games, and play against
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 5:55pm
Funny, we go bowling, send players to NFL, and play big names
CG4BYU
2/9/13 6:11pm
To you it doesn't because it doesn't fit into your
messi
2/9/13 6:14pm
Are you hitting on me?
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 6:47pm
With all the practice you have with spending
messi
2/9/13 6:53pm
You just seem really concerned with how much time I spend on here.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 7:18pm
Not concerned. I just don't understand it.
messi
2/9/13 7:39pm
So do you need me to point out to you the irony of your post?
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 7:55pm
You would have a point if I had that many posts
messi
2/9/13 8:24pm
Haha..."no friend" smack?
VirginiaUte
2/10/13 8:42am
I haven't read the last 20 posts messi, but
Gentleman Stan
2/11/13 10:25pm
I know. I've learned my lesson with him, and
messi
2/11/13 10:29pm
You guys are still carrying on in this thread?
VirginiaUte
2/12/13 6:17am
Whitt is feeling the heat
Rise Against
2/9/13 10:07am
No he's not!
Crazy Cajun
2/9/13 10:22am
Ah, the old "injuries" excuse
Rise Against
2/9/13 10:30am
Very Crowton-esque. I love it.
BluePete
2/11/13 8:53am
Wow..what a complete 5 year old reaponse.
CG4BYU
2/9/13 10:36am
3 or 4 years?
TLCougar
2/9/13 10:37am
Depends on what your definition of "south" is.
VirginiaUte
2/9/13 10:48am
I would assume that
TLCougar
2/9/13 11:37am
8-4 or 7-5 is a real possibility? Wow.
AFwingnut
2/9/13 2:42pm
What's with the whole BJ thing?
SausageKingOfChicago
2/9/13 10:10am
One point of disagreement not related to the main point
donnerstag
2/9/13 10:11am
man, Whitt is really enamored with BJ. Bringing in mentors and such.
Crush4
2/9/13 10:13am
That is what Chow was for too
PrisonMike
2/9/13 10:16am
BJ is a recruiting tool for Whitt, he'll keep him around as long as possible.
kabslc
2/9/13 10:55am
Utezone editor - an EXCELLENT SOURCE says otherwise
ALUF 1990
2/9/13 10:15am
Yeah, cause everybody wants to admit that a guy turned them down for their
ForzaCougs
2/9/13 10:21am
That is not it. You don't get things right over and over by covering things
ALUF 1990
2/9/13 10:30am
I wasn't talking about him, I was talking about the people who got turned down.
ForzaCougs
2/9/13 10:48am
Exactly.
BYUheaven
2/9/13 11:24am
Correct, the ones
LDTemplar
2/9/13 3:35pm
Or are people in the Utah program simply more careful about the information
kabslc
2/9/13 10:22am
Someone who works for something called "utezone" is of course going
kabslc
2/9/13 10:29am
Wrong. See my post 3 spots up. Does anyone think Harmon tells both
ALUF 1990
2/9/13 10:31am
Ah....very good post. I certainly don't think Harmon sees it both ways.
kabslc
2/9/13 10:36am
Your above posts mean nothing
LDTemplar
2/9/13 3:37pm
Bronco Mendenhall - an EXCELLENT source - agrees with me.
shoganai
2/9/13 10:30am
Bronco personally told you that Whit was going to throw BJ under the bus?
ALUF 1990
2/9/13 10:37am
You have the guy offered, his HC, and now this info and you still cant see
CG4BYU
2/9/13 10:43am
Some people on this board have contact with Anae
Snowbirdjunkie
2/9/13 10:59am
Plausible deniability
kccougar
2/9/13 11:04am
I know EXACTLY who his sources are
RockyBalboa
2/9/13 1:14pm
The one thing that can't be refuted......BJ is not ready as an OC
Bonoman
2/9/13 3:59pm
Thanks Shog. It's always interesting to read your stuff.
P-Widdy
2/9/13 10:19am
Maybe Kwitt should hire Doman?
cougarbouy
2/9/13 10:20am
As a recruiter...that would be awesome. Doman is excellent at
ALUF 1990
2/9/13 10:34am
That is if Scalley wouldn't refer to Doman as a ##### that he's hated since he
kabslc
2/9/13 10:40am
Not if they know much about Scalley
LDTemplar
2/9/13 3:31pm
Funny to hear that he had like 6 offers when people were often saying
binghammer
2/9/13 10:33am
I'm counting one OC offer other than BYU. The rest were non-OC offers
DapperDan
2/9/13 10:36am
He didn't have other offers period
donnerstag
2/9/13 11:00am
It looks like these sources are probably the same as your BYU to the B12 sources
Scratch
2/9/13 10:51am
See Anae and Bronco's interview that backs it up.
CG4BYU
2/9/13 11:13am
Your last sentence is the most important. He wants some qualified w/o an ego
BDAWG
2/9/13 11:01am
I'm amused that the Cougar Nation is taking such satisfaction in unfounded...
HSprauge
2/9/13 11:08am
And you still little brother for commenting.
CG4BYU
2/9/13 11:15am
Sentence structure. I had to read your post
messi
2/9/13 11:19am
Nice... When losing the point messi changes the subject to sentence structure.
HSprauge
2/9/13 11:22am
Losing what point? I posted because I was
messi
2/9/13 11:41am
So you see no disconnect when Cougar Nation gleefully celebrates...
HSprauge
2/9/13 11:54am
There probably is a disconnect. That happened almost
messi
2/9/13 12:04pm
The BYU administration liked Whit... in fact they liked him better than Bronco.
HSprauge
2/9/13 12:08pm
A decade ago they did. They wouldn't take
messi
2/9/13 12:16pm
So in his supreme self assurance Bronco has to bolster himself with...
HSprauge
2/9/13 12:30pm
He was just giving it back for the Roderick
messi
2/9/13 12:57pm
Oh, so now Bronco isn't capable of making his own hires so Tom H. steps in?
HSprauge
2/9/13 12:32pm
Sorry... wrong tread.
HSprauge
2/9/13 12:34pm
And speaking of unqualified and over his head... BYU has hired a RB coach...
HSprauge
2/9/13 11:13am
We should have hired an ambulance chasing attorney
PrisonMike
2/9/13 11:15am
Just pointing out that "unqualified and over his head" cuts both ways...
HSprauge
2/9/13 11:19am
Atuaia helped Anae during his last stint at BYU. And another point, guys who
kabslc
2/9/13 11:27am
Having 2 first year coaches on the same offensive staff with no D1 exeriencece..
HSprauge
2/9/13 11:48am
I'll go out on a limb and say that Robert Anae knows how to choose qualified
kabslc
2/9/13 11:54am
That remains to be seen... what we do know is that Bronco has a poor record...
HSprauge
2/9/13 12:03pm
Indeed, which is why I think they'll do better this time around.
kabslc
2/9/13 12:05pm
Bronco hired Anae... Did his hiring judgement improve from when he promoted...
HSprauge
2/9/13 12:24pm
Maybe, maybe not. That's why Tom Holmoe stepped in.
kabslc
2/9/13 12:26pm
Oh, so now Bronco isn't capable of making his own hires so Tom H. steps in?
HSprauge
2/9/13 12:35pm
Yes, I do believe that is how things unfolded.
kabslc
2/9/13 12:41pm
Seems to be a hallmark of disfunction when the head of a program...
HSprauge
2/9/13 12:52pm
I think Holmoe actually helped stop the dysfunction. The greater
kabslc
2/9/13 12:59pm
Right... new offensive scheme, inexprienced
HSprauge
2/9/13 1:19pm
(cont.) QB coming off knee surgery, 2-4 offensive coaches who have never...
HSprauge
2/9/13 1:23pm
I think you're wrong. There is more than one QB on the roster,
kabslc
2/9/13 2:34pm
BYUs best option at QB is an injured sophomore with 2 starts under his belt...
HSprauge
2/9/13 6:56pm
I'll take this option at QB over Jordan Wynn's little sister.
Jonce17
2/10/13 9:42pm
Interesting situation...
bigjohn
2/9/13 1:37pm
Without a resume of D1 experience 2J and Atuia are risky hires at best.
HSprauge
2/9/13 7:04pm
When one cannot win the argument, one has to change the argument
DazeofBlue
2/9/13 2:10pm
Not changing the arguement at all. Shoganai brought up the inexperienced...
HSprauge
2/9/13 7:00pm
Agree about Atuaia, but 2J inexperienced?? Come on. I think moving from head
doups3
2/9/13 2:47pm
Is college of the canyons FCS?
kabslc
2/9/13 3:07pm
I assumed so, but maybe it's a step further down. Either way, dude has
doups3
2/9/13 3:22pm
I think it is another step down. I think he is an awesome hire for BYU.
kabslc
2/9/13 3:36pm
D1 and BCS is a long way from college of the canyons competition.
HSprauge
2/9/13 7:01pm
Weird how inexperience doesnt matter in this sport
Y4LYFE
2/9/13 2:39pm
Experience does matter... there are just no other options for BYU.
HSprauge
2/9/13 7:06pm
Why is BYU so obsessed with proving they beat Utah at something.
jt04
2/9/13 3:57pm
It's called a rivalry lol. And the "obsession" really started at
kabslc
2/9/13 4:12pm
So, when Utah started winning again.
jt04
2/9/13 4:13pm
Yep. He made beating BYU priority #1. It worked.
kabslc
2/9/13 4:19pm
Calling him "Doctor" is lame. Ute fans do that with their AD. It's lame.
haroldskilley
2/9/13 4:28pm
I agree. When someone works outside the field of their doctoral study,it is
kabslc
2/9/13 4:38pm
IIRC, Anae's doctoral dissertation was on wide-gap OL formations.
BluePete
2/9/13 8:04pm
Well excuse me. I did not know that sociologists studied offensive line
kabslc
2/11/13 8:54am
RE: The Utah-Anae story...
dunc4BYU
2/9/13 5:12pm
Thanks Shoganai- I always
reezonablecoug
2/9/13 9:39pm
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