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BYU fandom coming in handy starting Puka and Taysom today.

JuicyJam

3:13pm

Do you guys remember under Gary Crowton in 2001 BYU's average scoring drive was

HouseDeeking

3:09pm

POLL: What percent chance to win vs ASU do you give us?

Rexy Coug

3:06pm

💯 because I’m not a little Ute

Longseason

3:08pm

This turned out to be pretty accurate.

momowagon

3:04pm

How predictable is ARod's offense, based on tendencies, formations, situations,

SV72 Sale

3:02pm

What about all the plays that were successful and worked? Was the defense

Polecat

3:03pm

Notice that I didn't say EVERY play?

SV72 Sale

3:05pm

Oh ALMOST every play. Gotcha. I honestly don’t think it’s the play selection

Polecat

3:10pm

Hans asked the same question. Says maybe there are sets or people on the field

Flyski

3:03pm

It was obvious when Jake said “kill”, Kansas knew it was an audible to option.

idcougarfan

3:08pm

I think he does a good job mixing it up. We saw things we haven’t last night.

Cougarite

3:09pm

Roughly the same predictability as everyone else's offense. I'm not sure why

shoganai

3:10pm

This guy is CB

cruiserhead Truly Addicted User

3:01pm

The emotional roller coaster that is CFB

NYCougz

3:02pm

Also CB: fire coaches AND our players aren’t good enough to compete

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:03pm

💯

JayCoug

3:08pm

Before anyone crowns CU & Coach Prime

RockyBalboa

3:00pm

Yes, but the way that CU is playing the last month ... I think it's a foregone

runnincoug

3:02pm

CU is playing great right now.

RockyBalboa

3:03pm

What about the way Kansas is playing? Knocked off ISU & BYU

Cougarite

3:11pm

I'm tired of Drake Toll. He's saying we were supposed to be the team that gave respect to the B12 and slams us over it.

AltTabbins I got UtahFootballGM banned.

2:56pm

Drake Toll is just an entertainer with a good broadcasting voice. His stuff

Polecat

3:00pm

Drake Toll is a YouTuber...it honestly doesn't matter what he thinks

MaximusMeridius

3:06pm

I disagree, he is a good advocate for us. We lost, he shouldn’t need to spin it

Ol Big Bear

3:06pm

He’s a good cheerleader for us. I don’t think we can say advocate because

Polecat

3:13pm

We have to take the bad with the good. Drake is solid.

shakarocks

3:10pm

He basically has had this opinion since the KSU game

canuckchuck

3:10pm

I read that as "I don't like Drake Toll, because he's not a BYU homer"

RealSimsShadY

3:14pm

Do you believe BYU can beat Az State in Saturday?

Coug Dude

2:55pm

Yes they can and I believe they will

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:56pm

I liked what I heard from Kalani in the post game. I think the boys will be ready

WDaddy

2:56pm

Can? Yes. Will?

XORCoug

2:56pm

22 points scored against Utah. 13 against

Archaea

2:57pm

Run out of gas? No.

NYCougz

3:04pm

13 points against KU is good?

Archaea

3:06pm

Who said that? The running out of gas is just a silly analogy

NYCougz

3:13pm

You’re right, let’s forfeit the rest of the season. Can someone draft a memo to the team?

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:12pm

Yes

Rexy Coug

2:56pm

At beginning of season yes. Now no.

Archaea

2:56pm

100%

TANK

2:57pm

Can? No. Will, with the refs’ help? Definitely.

Nikomedes

2:58pm

If we recapture the fire we had in the first 3 games.. yes. If we don't make any changes, no.

AltTabbins

2:58pm

Absolutely. They have been driving on offense all year they have just struggled finishing

CSoul

2:59pm

Defenses have figured ARod out.

Archaea

3:00pm

No they haven't. Kansas didn't "figure us out". It's fixable.

CSoul

3:01pm

Next year. Scoring only 13 points against a mediocre defense

Archaea

3:05pm

What, exactly, did they figure out?

shoganai

3:07pm

What plays we run near the red zone.

Archaea

3:08pm

There's pills for that

MaximusMeridius

3:07pm

of course

JOPE

3:00pm

Not as the offense is presently constituted. Can they get it together? Who knows

kurda

3:00pm

We’ll have to get turnovers and points out of them.

Bluforever

3:00pm

Yes. In some ways ASU is an easier matchup than Kansas.

shoganai

3:06pm

I’ll ask this again since nobody replied last time . BYU has some guy named Matt

Polecat

2:55pm

His profile on byucougars.com is literally blank.

Polecat

2:56pm

I found it:

Polecat

2:58pm

X Twitter feed

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:00pm

Points scored on Kansas in conference play: 32,38,35,14,29,36,13

texbird33

2:53pm

We all expected a shootout. We got the opposite.

NYCougz

2:54pm

Thanks ARod

idcougarfan

3:11pm

True or false...the BYU vs ASU game is essentially a CCG play-in game for both

MaximusMeridius

2:53pm

Of course it is.

shoganai

2:54pm

BYu is toast. No offense.

Archaea

2:54pm

Not the question I asked

MaximusMeridius

3:04pm

If BYU were playing well yes it would be but

Archaea

3:07pm

True

Bluforever

2:55pm

I believe it is but obviously there are scenarios where BYU sneaks in

coug10278

3:01pm

Interesting thread on Big 12 media rights.

UNLVcougar

2:50pm

Pretty disappointed. I don’t want to have to pay for Max 3 or 4 times a year and

Charles Darwin

2:52pm

Zero chance I get Max. I'll be using other means if that's the case

MaximusMeridius

2:54pm

Add max to the Disney +. Cheap. I love byu. Can’t help it. I’d rather go a

Don Carlton

2:56pm

Zero chance I add any more subscription services. I'll still be watching...just

MaximusMeridius

3:03pm

Stealing is wrong.

TCuz

3:04pm

RE: Zero chance I add any more subscription services. I'll still be

Charles Darwin

3:10pm

If you’re on an old AT&T cell plan you may have Max and not know it.

Tokolosh

3:10pm

Was that written by AI? That wasn’t interesting at all

TCuz

2:56pm

As a side note, Max has a great catalog

Gustav

3:09pm

No reason to believe that a team that was sub 500

Archaea

2:50pm

Need a better OC as well.

foofcoug

2:50pm

Or at least someone who calls better plays

Archaea

2:52pm

Bittersweet season lol this is comedy gold

puntersarepeople

2:54pm

It will likely lose the next three

Archaea

2:55pm

What on earth are you talking about?

puntersarepeople

2:57pm

It scored 13 points against KU.

Archaea

2:58pm

Log off. This ain't it chief.

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

3:00pm

You are drunk on your own pessimism and projecting it on the team

puntersarepeople

3:02pm

So you think the offense is progressing?

Archaea

3:02pm

No I just don’t believe in a death spiral we can’t get out of

puntersarepeople

3:04pm

We were three plays from winning that game 20-3. 1. Uncalled massive offensive PI that allowed them to get the first TD.

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

3:00pm

Offense scored 13 and 22 points.

Archaea

3:01pm

Why are you even a BYU fan if that's the way you view the football program? Sounds like a miserable way to fan.

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

3:02pm

Why are you a fan if you live losses

Archaea

3:04pm

I would have been happy with just making a bowl game this season. This season has far surpassed all of my expectations

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

3:10pm

For me it is playoffs or bust.

Archaea

3:11pm

We can still get to the playoffs. We just need to win the conference championship game, and this team is totally capable

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

3:12pm

Uh 9-1 is competing…

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:01pm

Competing means winning everything you have a chance to win

Archaea

3:02pm

Colorado has lost twice = must have lousy players or they didn’t have a chance to win

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:05pm

But now they are playing well at the end of the season and

Archaea

3:09pm

Give them a week

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:12pm

No that is not what it means.

NYCougz

3:05pm

Man, some of you guys are unstable. BYU is going to be a 10 win team, maybe more. All while playing in a P4

Busting Coveys

3:02pm

If you see a special season in sight and lose it that is bittersweet

Archaea

3:04pm

The prelude to 84 was a one loss 83 season

puntersarepeople

3:08pm

Then I will be excited next year.

Archaea

3:12pm

Very special season so far no one saw coming except the very coaches and team who fought in the game and lost the

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:08pm

The worst thing about the fade throw yesterday

Coug Dude

2:49pm

We have play makers. That’s is who should be targeted especially in the RZ

NYCougz

2:51pm

The problem is that Jake made the wrong decision. Perhaps the team needs to

Polecat

2:53pm

The fade cost BYU the game. If BYU gets a FG they go into the half 13-10. Then

Benfica1

2:53pm

That was only 1 option. Should only be thrown if the TE is totally open

MaximusMeridius

2:56pm

I choose to believe that isn't necessarily the first read on the play yesterday.

JuicyJam

3:10pm

Wow hopefully you had Taysom on your fantasy team today. Unbelievable

OU Cougar

2:48pm

And he’s NOT a HOF player?

Dr MoBYU

2:51pm

I did, and he may have saved my week.

SoCalCoug

3:07pm

That'll tick off Kamara

Hank Rearden

3:12pm

Left 50 points on my bench between Goff and Williams

Icelandic Cougar

2:46pm

Why did you have an active QB on your bench?

Belboz

2:47pm

I have 2 QB’s. I started hurts this week.

Icelandic Cougar

2:47pm

You'd be better off using that spot on someone like Blake Corum or Cam Akers

Belboz

2:49pm

Oh ye of little faith

TheMoose

2:44pm

Could be a blessing in disguise.

rockhound

3:11pm

Ref for Chiefs-Bills was the same ref for the Carlin Clay drop

Conan Best Poster on CB -JD Power

2:43pm

So the Cougs lay an egg so will the Chiefs. When it rains it pours

Archaea

2:45pm

I just realized sum thing

Father_Ezekiel

2:39pm

Two weeks from now we’re going to be talking about how to best stop Hunter

allaboutthegainz

2:38pm

Beat asu

NYCougz

2:40pm

Tall order

Big12Yfan

2:45pm

Quality team. Get it done.

NYCougz

2:47pm

Yessss

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:41pm

A lot of sad BYU fans on my flight home.

cruiserhead All-American

2:36pm

Nobody saying much. Just some minor nods in commiseration.

cruiserhead

2:38pm

At least we chose Allegiant this time & saved money.

BigD Coug

2:39pm

Hello!

cruiserhead

2:39pm

I love having meaningful football games deep into November. So exciting!

VirginiaPeanut

2:35pm

Idk I really miss the 8:15 pm kickoffs vs Idaho in November on ESPNU.

allaboutthegainz

2:39pm

And umass

NYCougz

2:49pm

Yep. I don’t miss independence at all. The season was over in oct

NYCougz

2:49pm

I doubt A Rod purposefully constructed together a 10-minute drive to start

brazilcoug

2:35pm

Not finishing drives=bad offense

idcougarfan

2:36pm

I’m not here to argue that point.

brazilcoug

2:39pm

When Kansas had the ball, they only had one sustained drive

Idacoug

2:59pm

13 points = bad

Still Blue

2:37pm

Yup. Yards and TOP doesn't matter. Points are what wins games and they got 3 in the second half.

foofcoug

2:39pm

Ummmm.....13 points against that D is Baaaaaaddddd.

notsofast

2:38pm

Horrible

Big12Yfan

2:49pm

We kept them off the field for sure. If we’d hit the fade and scored the FG to start 2nd everyone would talk about how

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:44pm

Of course the plan was to keep the ball away from Kansas, but you have to finish

Idacoug

2:57pm

Three points on three possessions inside the 15

LV Coug

2:59pm

So on the punt play, why wasn't the Kansas WR flagged for a penalty? He didn't

astroman

2:34pm

Refs no showed worse than BYU. Made 0 calls when they could’ve made some

puntersarepeople

2:37pm

Don’t know for sure, but I imagine the receiving team’s player has to actually

XORCoug

2:39pm

When it hits a player in the back of the head he wasn't preparing to catch it.

Bonoman

2:44pm

He wasn't a punt receiver. It'd be the same if the punt hit a player blocking a gunner.

foofcoug

2:41pm

Got it. Without a designated punt receiver there is no interference?

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:45pm

Doesn't have to be designated. Had Johnson turned and tried to receive the ball or signal fair catch, then you could

foofcoug

2:48pm

Pooch kick is so rare…

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:53pm

“Kick catch interference” requires an attempt to catch.

Tricky

2:56pm

If we had lost to Okla st, I would’ve been frustrated but tip my cap to them.

Mr. Scoobs

2:34pm

Our defense was completely lost that game. Jake bailed us out. Kansas was the

momowagon

2:43pm

Yep. Perspective. Offense had to bail out 2nd Q defense meltdown at U. This team has found ways to win together.

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:46pm

That’s been the strength of the team. All groups play hard and believ in each

puntersarepeople

2:49pm

Defense crapped the bed on the punt. Not many possessions that game. So many

Mr. Scoobs

2:48pm

Dude it was one of the top 5 flukiest plays of our lifetime. Easy on the defense who played their hearts out.

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:52pm

Saints gave Taysom a lot more touches this week

El Paso Coug

2:32pm

Dennis Allen did not utilize him at all. They have paid him so much money to

Cougz19

2:36pm

Probability: Jake lands in the Feterik / Walsh range of BYU QBs who are good but

oxcoug

2:30pm

How does he compare to Sarks junior year?

cruiserhead

2:34pm

He was shaky and not good until he put it together in the final game for an

oxcoug

2:37pm

This year? Better than Sark’s jr year

Bluforever

2:59pm

Oh man. He's not as good as Walsh. That's just nuts

Belboz

2:36pm

When you factor his running ability vs Walsh's total inability to run he

oxcoug

2:37pm

I.e. that 5. whatever combine 40 that got him run from the NFL draft

oxcoug

2:40pm

I'll take a guy who is capable of throwing over 600 yards in a game

Belboz

2:43pm

Walsh went 2-6 vs current power programs. Got destroyed on most of those

oxcoug

2:48pm

Yeah, BYU had terrible defenses those years

Belboz

2:52pm

We scored 14 and he threw three INTs vs UCLA. Hard to write that off to our D.

oxcoug

2:57pm

Some of Retzlaff's big wins (SMU and Utah)

cwilke1

3:01pm

Sure. I wouldn't argue with that. Retz made a great play to get that SMU win tho

oxcoug

3:02pm

Because our defenses sucked.

NYCougz

2:53pm

Mmm hmm. See above.

oxcoug

2:57pm

Neither Walsh nor Retzlaff are playing defense and special teams. Retzlaff has

cwilke1

2:58pm

Different eras… qb’s didn’t run back then unless you’re Randall Cunningham

Das_Countach

2:42pm

How often does Retzlaff throw for 300, 400, 500, 619 yards in a game?

Belboz

2:43pm

As noted above. Walsh played UTEP twice, New Mexico, etc etc. And went 2-6 and

oxcoug

2:49pm

he played schedules similar to those of Wilson, McMahon, Steve Young, Bosco

Belboz

2:54pm

McMahon and Young were a combined 9-4 vs current P4 teams. Walsh was 2-6.

oxcoug

3:09pm

That includes wins over Wisky and Mizzou in addition to the obvious four wins

oxcoug

3:11pm

I was at the USU game but in general count me unimpressed with his leadership

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:54pm

Walsh is very underrated in byu lore

NYCougz

2:39pm

Walsh gets a bad rap because he didn’t beat Utah and BYU had horrid defenses

arizonacougarfan

2:45pm

Yep. And followed detmer.

NYCougz

2:52pm

Wash clears— (in the words of today’s kids)

Das_Countach

2:47pm

He can't throw the ball to the inside on that fade. That is QB 101 and speaks to your good, but not great argument.....

Bonoman

2:37pm

He is a "gamer" though and leaves it all out there. We know that, we also know the other stuff will happen too

Bonoman

2:38pm

Walsh was way better than Retzy

arizonacougarfan

2:44pm

Neither of those guys are a 10th the leader Jake is and didn’t face the competition or scrutiny. I’ll take retzlaff

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:50pm

Feterik seems like a really good comparison.

shoganai

2:56pm

That's pretty accurate I think. He's a pretty good QB, but not elite.

runnincoug

2:59pm

Maybe a better leader than pure QB skill, but so much improved YoY

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:10pm

He's got another year too. He improved a lot year 1 to year 2. I'd expect

pinolero

3:03pm

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Just watched the punt for the first time on video and I’m even more stunned

Gonna take a long time for me to forgive that outrageous corner-fade call. Cost

I am a 47 yr old man, that looks like a pudgy 37 yr old. I am a very boisterous

Perspective...

I’m calling it

Tyler Batty, on behalf of a very grateful Cougar nation, please please please

CB is so laughable and predictable after a game like last night

Roberts said the fade was the wrong read

KS surprised me tonight on the post game. Actually had more than coach speak.

Ugh. The media is bring insanely disrespectful towards BYU.

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