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[BYUtv Sports] BYUtv Sports Nation

7:25pm

I think I’ll become a Notre Dame fan

Future_Tacos

7:23pm

What is wrong which you?

TNT

7:25pm

Has Disney invested any $ into ESPN since buying it. ESPN & ESPN+ apps sucks. I use to think it was my devices. Nope.

Malcolm Reynolds All-American

7:22pm

This has been an encouraging month from Keyonte.

DieHarder

7:19pm

Is your sound bad?

BYU71

7:27pm

The Committee to the Big 12: keep complaining about getting only one team in,

Shinshin

7:17pm

The Big 12 has five top 25 teams, same as the B1G, yet its conference champion may not get a bye or could be left out

runningryan Pretend Athletic Director

7:16pm

B1G is ridiculously overrate

BYU '80

7:19pm

The committee has no idea what they are doing.

RGGeemer

7:12pm

They know exactly what they are doing.

Ode to Hoy

7:14pm

Putting out senseless drivel instead of actual rankings? Apparently.

RGGeemer

7:19pm

I’ve seen 2 WWII movies recently: Bonhoeffer and When Hitler Stole Pink Rabbit

Florwood

7:11pm

Good point Criddle. Get this info to the committee

AF Cougar

7:10pm

But Tcuz has the only stats that matter.

coug10278

7:12pm

Is K St's coach right? Do we need an 8 game conf schedule?

RGGeemer

7:21pm

If the SEC and B10 are doing it, so should XII

Jimo Dashen

7:24pm

Utes dragging our average down.

Abe Froman

7:22pm

Just showed a wide shot inside the Huntsman Center. Not kidding, looks like fewer than 1,000 people there.

Pollster QB2

7:09pm

The weather and the product are bad.

rivercitycoug

7:09pm

The weather could be perfect and the attendance would be the same.

Flyski

7:12pm

Were they trying to spotlight the cheerleaders?

Ragnar Danneskjold

7:10pm

Will BYU have more fans when they play there?

thewaterboy

7:21pm

Clemson vs. BYU Resumes

d10e15

7:05pm

Logo and preseason expectations

Mr. Scoobs

7:05pm

And Clemson got pounded in both games

BYU '80

7:06pm

Clemson and Alabama are ranked where they are based on brand alone.

Shinshin

7:06pm

Sure, I’ll make it make sense for you. Sagarin: Clemson #17 BYU #28 FPI: Clemson #14 BYU #30 SP+: Clemson #15 BYU #18

TCuz

7:07pm

Garbage metrics used only when convenient

coug10278

7:08pm

FPI isn’t a real metric

puntersarepeople

7:09pm

Ok, add KFord: Clemson #13 BYU #28 and Massey: Clemson #15 BYU #18

TCuz

7:11pm

Two of the metrics you’ve used have a very slight edge to Clemson

puntersarepeople

7:16pm

Resume metrics also matter. I’m not saying they don’t. But every efficiency metric favors Clemson

TCuz

7:19pm

Maybe you just can’t read

puntersarepeople

7:22pm

I can read fine. You only care about the resume metrics and want to exclude all efficiency metrics

TCuz

7:23pm

Edited for clarity

puntersarepeople

7:26pm

Doesn’t FPI still have USC is at like 15 with their 5 losses

Kolipoki

7:11pm

It loves high recruiting rankings which artificially props up bluebloods

puntersarepeople

7:12pm

Well clearly if there is a result or two by the metrics you don’t like you just throw it out completely.

TCuz

7:13pm

Throwing out bad data is something scientists do all the time

puntersarepeople

7:18pm

Make the objective rankings as subjective as possible! Redo it until we agree with the AP Poll!!

TCuz

7:22pm

I don’t think you understand science very well

puntersarepeople

7:25pm

Can you make those rankings make sense? If byu has played a tougher schedule

bulletproof

7:14pm

They are efficiency metrics. It’s like KenPom in basketball. It’s how well you have played in games

TCuz

7:17pm

The problem with computer rankings in college football is they use data from

RGGeemer

7:24pm

No, that’s not why BYU is low at all. Why is Indiana ranked so highly in most of them then?

TCuz

7:27pm

That Kansas loss at home along with close wins over OSU and Utah torpedoed us

AF Cougar

7:07pm

Yet close wins over zero mwc win Nevada (3-8) by 6 and 2-9 Wyoming by four

BYU '80

7:11pm

Losses to top 10 teams (like Georgia and Oregon) don't hurt a team

krindorr

7:19pm

I love that bama cannot torpedo their season

NYCougz

7:23pm

The last 4 games, BYU won by two miracles against the two worst teams in the

idcougarfan

7:13pm

I can't be critical of it because I am not confident BYU can beat any of the

JAGA97

7:23pm

I dont think Clemson could beat a top 20 team as they haven’t.

NYCougz

7:28pm

In fairness Clemson beat..

NYCougz

7:27pm

Sparkling Ice has black tea extract. Thoughts on ok to drink from CB perspective

SoValleyCOUG

7:04pm

Forgiveness is more easily obtained than permission.

Cougar Junkie

7:06pm

Save this for the offseason.

immacougar

7:06pm

Does Natty Ice have any tea in it?

foofcoug

7:08pm

Let me check...

Gunga Galunga

7:16pm

IMHO, not WOW compliant

MoscowCoug

7:10pm

It actually has green tea extract.

Coach's Dad

7:12pm

How could that be? It's black

TNT

7:22pm

I drink it often. It's a yes in my book🤷

ThEJOKER

7:19pm

I've always been no on green tea extract. But yes on vanilla extract, which has

cruoti

7:24pm

I don't think you guys understand. Bama has beaten 4 SEC teams this season

HouseDeeking

7:04pm

so, who says the SEC is any good, besides the SEC and their minions

Count Cougar

7:17pm

are you questioning the strength of the SEC?

HouseDeeking

7:22pm

Why must the world's greatest sport have the most imbalanced and corrupt

Cougar Junkie

7:04pm

FIFA is the worst

7:16pm

So, were Memphis Tigers fans on Thanksgiving?

rainorsnow

7:02pm

I know I am.

reagan21

7:10pm

So MWC = AAC = XII

Beggar

7:01pm

TCuz

7:01pm

Link?

Beggar

7:02pm

RE: Link?

foofcoug

7:03pm

lol. That ridiculous conclusion is based entirely off the ranking of the top current team in each conference

TCuz

7:04pm

Late-season losses hurt. Early losses don’t. Blowouts matter.

rainorsnow

6:59pm

Like Alabama

coug10278

7:00pm

I forgot to add . . . SEC is exempt from these rules.

rainorsnow

7:02pm

BYU is choking away chance. Can't blame the committee.

SoValleyCOUG

7:07pm

Yep. Don't disappear in the 1st half v ASU & only score 13 offensive pts v KU's

Forzaitalia

7:17pm

Committee reasoning

Rivers Cuomo

6:57pm

Where would 11-0 BYU be ranked right now? 3, 4, 5, or 6?

foofcoug

6:57pm

Probably 4 behind Oregon, OSU, and Texas

775coug

6:58pm

They chose a heckuva time to spit the bit.

foofcoug

7:00pm

Actually if they beat a ranked ASU on the road I can see them jumping Texas

775coug

7:00pm

They wouldn’t be near Texas with one loss

BYU '80

7:01pm

Imagine being in a place where we're ranked 4 but arguing we should be 2. Sad...

foofcoug

7:03pm

What’s near? Byu was already 3 spots away from Texas

775coug

7:05pm

You didn’t mention the Kansas game. They lost that one

BYU '80

7:07pm

The prompt this entire time has been if byu was undefeated

775coug

7:09pm

Oh you’re saying byu with one loss? No the prompt has been if byu was undefeated

775coug

7:06pm

You’re right original post was undefeated. They’d be up around 4

BYU '80

7:08pm

I dont want to think about it

Deleted

6:59pm

Bama at 13 is criminal

AZPTCOUG

6:55pm

SMU gonna drop past Clemson if they lose the CCG smh

jigidajrit

6:54pm

Colorado got hosed the most

RealSimsShadY

6:53pm

Seriously bring back the computers

BYU '80

6:53pm

Here you go:

Madam Pattirini

7:03pm

Well that’s one computer and the worst one for byu

BYU '80

7:09pm

SOR is usually just a component of a computer ranking, right?

Madam Pattirini

7:14pm

Probably the best one

BYU '80

7:19pm

BCS rankings:

Madam Pattirini

7:16pm

The Big XII is the sacrificial lamb for the P4 so any allegations of antitrust

kansascougar

6:51pm

Those in power are paving the way to demote a royalty-program-less Big12 to

LeftOfNormal

6:54pm

Dang, just realized the season is almost over! What a great time to be a Coug! Go MBB!

NonmormonYfan89 Starter

6:51pm

Don’t we still have like 6 games left?

Viva Campeche

6:55pm

Indiana played well against Ohio st for five minutes

BYU '80

6:50pm

Tulane is a 2-loss team

Cougs4Lfe

6:50pm

The committee:

oxcoug

6:50pm

3 3-loss SEC teams ranked above 3 2-loss Big 12 teams... C'mon man.

Cougs4Lfe

6:49pm

And B12 teams play 9 conference games too

Projectoor

6:50pm

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6:49pm

Bama is so overrated it’s maddening. Too bad Georgia had to take a dump the

jigidajrit

6:47pm

Lose to a cellar dweller by three tds. Go down same amount as byu

BYU '80

6:49pm

Three very high quality losses tell a different story.

vagabonder

6:50pm

They shouldn't even be in the CFP conversation at this point

ElCapo

6:53pm

Definitely not after getting blown out.

coug10278

6:58pm

I’ll always remember him for coaching Jim McMahon to the Superbowl

AF Cougar

6:46pm

And for getting the Fridge a Superbowl TD and not Payton.

foofcoug

6:50pm

Close wins aren't valued. Just blowouts and close losses.

IronPotato

6:45pm

Tulane has beaten nobody. Even less than bsu

BYU '80

6:45pm

And they’ve lost twice.

rivercitycoug

6:46pm

They have a #28 strength of record. The committee makes no sense.

VirginiaPeanut

6:47pm

Everyone not in the SEC & BIG10 should tell both to kick rocks. No sane person

coug10278

6:44pm

Acc has three teams in with comparable numbers to big12

BYU '80

6:45pm

Clemson also overrated

BYU '80

6:43pm

They’ll lose on Saturday anyway

Beggar

6:47pm

TV dollars run the whole thing. They've made the Big12 the new MWC. Ridiculous.

IronPotato

6:43pm

That people haven't seen this coming a mile away amazes me. Royalty Programs.

LeftOfNormal

6:52pm

With all the money involved, it shocks me that major lawsuits haven’t occurred

Powerbait DPM

7:22pm

The loss to Kansas was catastrophic. Image beating Kansas and losing to ASU.

CObluezone

6:43pm

It appears that losing games late in the season is catastrophic. Lose early you're OK.

GfB

6:49pm

Especially to NIU

pegushin

6:51pm

Anyone else feel foolish to still be this hopeful about the playoff?

VirginiaPeanut

6:43pm

We could compete against a handful, but if we get in those teams won’t be

bluecougar1985

6:47pm

How much does Matich make as an ESPN analyst?

Y-Zag

6:42pm

Little enough that he always survives when they do layoffs.

momowagon

6:47pm

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6:42pm

Egor among Big 12 Statistical Leaders in 5 categories

AF Cougar

6:42pm

Dang Fouss has been playing well.

EarlSpeak

6:46pm

Yes, he certainly has

AF Cougar

6:49pm

Yet all the "experts" viewed Keba as the better player. Fous=underappreciated.

Forzaitalia

7:20pm

Zero justification for Tulane to be above byu or asu to be five spots below bsu

BYU '80

6:40pm

You aren’t impressed with two losses and one-score wins against N. Texas &

rivercitycoug

6:45pm

Boise getting a 4 seed? That’s what barely beating a terrible Wyoming gets you?

Zach Morris #NeverNavy

6:40pm

It’s maddening. Beat mwc winless Nevada by 7 too

BYU '80

6:41pm

To be fair, we only beat 1-BigXII-win Utah by 1.

ebv

6:42pm

Utah would trounce Wyoming and Nevada

BYU '80

6:46pm

(I don't disagree at all, just wanted to get that jab in there).

ebv

6:50pm

Just win our own games

airbug

6:43pm

Also struggled to put away Georgia Southern

willkie40

6:43pm

I think regardless of outcomes this weekend, the Big 12 champ will jump Boise

RenoCoug

6:46pm

If Boise gets a first round bye, they lose by 3+ tds

TheLoanArranger

6:57pm

Or they’re a twelve seed on the road and lose by four TDs

BYU '80

7:04pm

Get used to G5s getting more love than before.

LegitCoug

6:40pm

Who is the Big 12 rep on the Committee? Because they suck at their job.

Shinshin

6:39pm

Probably the coffee boy

ElCapo

6:40pm

Mack Rhoades

thewaterboy

6:41pm

So, a BU and UofA guy? Maybe if they didn't suck this year, it would be

Shinshin

6:44pm

At what point do Boise states narrow wins over crap teams count

BYU '80

6:39pm

I just looked at my profile designation. It says "Truly Addicted User". 😁

Cougar Junkie

6:37pm

Welcome to the table.

Ted Lasso

6:39pm

There are dozens of us!

momowagon

6:42pm

And here I thought it was making fun of my board name

Cougar Junkie

6:44pm

Playoff committee hates the Big 12!

djbryant79

6:37pm

Parity is bad I guess. You need to have less than a handful of power players.

coug10278

6:38pm

Pretty wild SMU could lose CCG and is still probably in.

VirginiaPeanut

6:37pm

Thanks WCC but it’s nice not caring about how LMU hoops is doing;)

CougGolf

6:35pm

Where does the 24 Holy War game stack up in the all timer rivalry game?

Borg

6:35pm

10th maybe sounds about right. It was actually a really bad game by both teams.

COACHdrn

6:39pm

The Holdy War? Top 5 for a controversial last minute finish. The actual football

momowagon

6:42pm

We can now add “Harlan craps himself” to “4th and 18” and “Harline is still open” and “Hall to George”

cheezedawg

6:48pm

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6:34pm

The BIGXII champ will jump Tulane.

allaboutthegainz

6:34pm

But not Boise. What a joke.

Kdubb

6:35pm

Why? When we were in Boise's shoes, we would have (rightfully) called it a...

COACHdrn

6:38pm

We would have had good wins. Bsu doesn’t

BYU '80

6:41pm

Exactly, in 1984 we beat the #3 ranked team on the road and also

AF Cougar

6:57pm

Wouldn't be surprised to see Boise drop next week with a win.

whirl

6:39pm

They just beat Wyoming by four and still went up

BYU '80

6:42pm

Not if it’s West Virginia

Nikomedes

6:38pm

You're assuming Boise is going to win the MWC championship game

DJROSS

6:49pm

At home in the cold against a dome team. Pretty good chance

BYU '80

7:02pm

Oklahoma is most likely going to have the same record as Kansas and they kicked Bamas teeth in

Coug Texan

6:34pm

And the committee will never have to answer those questions and be accountable.

COACHdrn

6:41pm

And Kansas has beaten three ranked teams and every loss is close

BYU '80

7:05pm

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