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Any fellow CBers that are spending their Tuesday night at Pleasant Grove High?

ProvoProwler

7:51pm

Dickinson, you stiff. If he's not a mismatch, he needs to be a <10 min player. He's costing KU both ways.

SinkingQuffa Truly Addicted User

7:51pm

Very good win!

upperdecky

7:49pm

What the heck is wrong with some of you? Calling him a “fatty”? Embarrassing.

Mr. Rumsfield

7:47pm

I'm short with thinning hair. He's chubby. Whatever

Belboz

7:50pm

Everytime we rewatch Lord of the Rings we pause and go watch this about an hour

paulb

7:40pm

Very deserved win! Nice!

DavisCoCoug

7:40pm

Such a nice pass by Schmaltz

B Blue

7:42pm

US Soccer will NOT be changing the age cutoff next year. The plan is to give

shoganai

7:37pm

Link?

Odysseus

7:40pm

Somebody just emailed me a letter. Don't know if it's posted publicly yet.

shoganai

7:42pm

It’s been weird. There’s supposedly a letter from a rec league in Michigan that

Odysseus

7:49pm

Winning WWII was a worthy endeavor but was it worth it if we’re stuck with

DKN

7:36pm

Did you see it?

Future_Tacos

7:37pm

No. I have a personal rule against watching anime.

DKN

7:41pm

As you should

Gustav

7:50pm

Dickinson still owns the most punchable face in college bball

ElCapo

7:33pm

Dude is taking in that sweet NIL $

NYCougz

7:34pm

KU and Iowa State look really tough.

kansascougar

7:32pm

Crazy how good Iowa State is at everything

Shore10

7:47pm

Boler still refers to an up-and-under as a wrap-around. Are people

Hypnotoad

7:30pm

Do coaches openly share halftime adjustments loud enough for non coaches to hear

RJCOD

7:29pm

He’s speaking in generalities that aren’t always 100% true

puntersarepeople

7:37pm

I'm waiting for leaked audio from the B12 discussing this behind closed doors

ryebrye

7:38pm

At that level it takes a competent opposing coach about 45 seconds to see what

shoganai

7:41pm

What can they do? I would have a grad asst stand outside the locker room.

truecougster

7:45pm

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7:25pm

I think I’ll become a Notre Dame fan

Future_Tacos

7:23pm

What is wrong which you?

TNT

7:25pm

Has Disney invested any $ into ESPN since buying it. ESPN & ESPN+ apps sucks. I use to think it was my devices. Nope.

Malcolm Reynolds All-American

7:22pm

I doubt it. Modern Disney sucks.

Ted Lasso

7:31pm

This has been an encouraging month from Keyonte.

DieHarder

7:19pm

Is your sound bad?

BYU71

7:27pm

Yep. Broadcast issue.

Hypnotoad

7:28pm

I was just thinking that. At this point I don't care how well he shoots. I care

Hypnotoad

7:28pm

The Committee to the Big 12: keep complaining about getting only one team in,

Shinshin

7:17pm

The Big 12 has five top 25 teams, same as the B1G, yet its conference champion may not get a bye or could be left out

runningryan Pretend Athletic Director

7:16pm

B1G is ridiculously overrate

BYU '80

7:19pm

But it won't be once Utah joins!

Cougar Junkie

7:36pm

I mean, four B1G teams have a combined 0 losses to all other teams

NGB

7:35pm

I wasn’t criticizing the B1G, merely showing the Big 12’s number of ranked teams should have told them something

runningryan

7:38pm

Play people on the road and play some tougher games and that doesn’t hold up.

gwalker

7:38pm

Sagarin has the B12 as better than the B1G. B1G is just too heavy, which

Scratch

7:47pm

The committee has no idea what they are doing.

RGGeemer

7:12pm

They know exactly what they are doing.

Ode to Hoy

7:14pm

Putting out senseless drivel instead of actual rankings? Apparently.

RGGeemer

7:19pm

Protecting 2 conferences which will expand in the future, making a super conf

Malathion

7:34pm

Oh yes they do.

Future_Tacos

7:30pm

I’ve seen 2 WWII movies recently: Bonhoeffer and When Hitler Stole Pink Rabbit

Florwood

7:11pm

Good point Criddle. Get this info to the committee

AF Cougar

7:10pm

But Tcuz has the only stats that matter.

coug10278

7:12pm

Is K St's coach right? Do we need an 8 game conf schedule?

RGGeemer

7:21pm

If the SEC and B10 are doing it, so should XII

Jimo Dashen

7:24pm

Utes dragging our average down.

Abe Froman

7:22pm

Because they play the most in conference games.

Coach's Dad

7:35pm

Did you see Clemson smack the Citadel??

NYCougz

7:36pm

So what. BYU has blown their chance by choking the last 2 games. Just needed 1

SoValleyCOUG

7:38pm

That’s literally the point of the discussion. If byu schedules Weber st instead

NYCougz

7:42pm

Just showed a wide shot inside the Huntsman Center. Not kidding, looks like fewer than 1,000 people there.

Pollster QB2

7:09pm

The weather and the product are bad.

rivercitycoug

7:09pm

The weather could be perfect and the attendance would be the same.

Flyski

7:12pm

Were they trying to spotlight the cheerleaders?

Ragnar Danneskjold

7:10pm

Will BYU have more fans when they play there?

thewaterboy

7:21pm

Clemson vs. BYU Resumes

d10e15

7:05pm

Logo and preseason expectations

Mr. Scoobs

7:05pm

And Clemson got pounded in both games

BYU '80

7:06pm

Clemson and Alabama are ranked where they are based on brand alone.

Shinshin

7:06pm

Sure, I’ll make it make sense for you. Sagarin: Clemson #17 BYU #28 FPI: Clemson #14 BYU #30 SP+: Clemson #15 BYU #18

TCuz

7:07pm

Garbage metrics used only when convenient

coug10278

7:08pm

FPI isn’t a real metric

puntersarepeople

7:09pm

Ok, add KFord: Clemson #13 BYU #28 and Massey: Clemson #15 BYU #18

TCuz

7:11pm

Two of the metrics you’ve used have a very slight edge to Clemson

puntersarepeople

7:16pm

Resume metrics also matter. I’m not saying they don’t. But every efficiency metric favors Clemson

TCuz

7:19pm

Maybe you just can’t read

puntersarepeople

7:22pm

I can read fine. You only care about the resume metrics and want to exclude all efficiency metrics

TCuz

7:23pm

Edited for clarity

puntersarepeople

7:26pm

Doesn’t FPI still have USC is at like 15 with their 5 losses

Kolipoki

7:11pm

It loves high recruiting rankings which artificially props up bluebloods

puntersarepeople

7:12pm

Well clearly if there is a result or two by the metrics you don’t like you just throw it out completely.

TCuz

7:13pm

Throwing out bad data is something scientists do all the time

puntersarepeople

7:18pm

Make the objective rankings as subjective as possible! Redo it until we agree with the AP Poll!!

TCuz

7:22pm

I don’t think you understand science very well

puntersarepeople

7:25pm

Can you make those rankings make sense? If byu has played a tougher schedule

bulletproof

7:14pm

They are efficiency metrics. It’s like KenPom in basketball. It’s how well you have played in games

TCuz

7:17pm

The problem with computer rankings in college football is they use data from

RGGeemer

7:24pm

No, that’s not why BYU is low at all. Why is Indiana ranked so highly in most of them then?

TCuz

7:27pm

That Kansas loss at home along with close wins over OSU and Utah torpedoed us

AF Cougar

7:07pm

Yet close wins over zero mwc win Nevada (3-8) by 6 and 2-9 Wyoming by four

BYU '80

7:11pm

Losses to top 10 teams (like Georgia and Oregon) don't hurt a team

krindorr

7:19pm

But apparently a 5 pt loss on the road to the #21 team drops you 5 spots

CaliWG

7:41pm

I love that bama cannot torpedo their season

NYCougz

7:23pm

The last 4 games, BYU won by two miracles against the two worst teams in the

idcougarfan

7:13pm

I can't be critical of it because I am not confident BYU can beat any of the

JAGA97

7:23pm

I dont think Clemson could beat a top 20 team as they haven’t.

NYCougz

7:28pm

In fairness Clemson beat..

NYCougz

7:27pm

BYU has squeaked by all year, analytics don't like them

Projectoor

7:29pm

Clemson squeaked by teams that aren’t good.

NYCougz

7:31pm

True, but Clemson has been much more efficient overall

Projectoor

7:35pm

The got crushed by the two good teams they played

CaliWG

7:41pm

Not “much” better

NYCougz

7:49pm

They haven’t lost to teams that are bad.

RealTaysomHill

7:39pm

Neither have we. And we have a win that is way better than anything they have.

NYCougz

7:48pm

Sparkling Ice has black tea extract. Thoughts on ok to drink from CB perspective

SoValleyCOUG

7:04pm

Forgiveness is more easily obtained than permission.

Cougar Junkie

7:06pm

Save this for the offseason.

immacougar

7:06pm

Does Natty Ice have any tea in it?

foofcoug

7:08pm

Let me check...

Gunga Galunga

7:16pm

IMHO, not WOW compliant

MoscowCoug

7:10pm

It actually has green tea extract.

Coach's Dad

7:12pm

How could that be? It's black

TNT

7:22pm

It’s green before it’s black.

Coach's Dad

7:31pm

Get outta here. Magic?

TNT

7:33pm

I drink it often. It's a yes in my book🤷

ThEJOKER

7:19pm

I've always been no on green tea extract. But yes on vanilla extract, which has

cruoti

7:24pm

Do you drink it straight?

Cougar Junkie

7:28pm

Put a drop in your whipping cream plus powdered sugar. You're welcome.

SoValleyCOUG

7:35pm

I don't think you guys understand. Bama has beaten 4 SEC teams this season

HouseDeeking

7:04pm

so, who says the SEC is any good, besides the SEC and their minions

Count Cougar

7:17pm

are you questioning the strength of the SEC?

HouseDeeking

7:22pm

I went to the GA vs TN game

airbug

7:32pm

Why must the world's greatest sport have the most imbalanced and corrupt

Cougar Junkie

7:04pm

FIFA is the worst

7:16pm

So, were Memphis Tigers fans on Thanksgiving?

rainorsnow

7:02pm

I know I am.

reagan21

7:10pm

So MWC = AAC = XII

Beggar

7:01pm

TCuz

7:01pm

Link?

Beggar

7:02pm

RE: Link?

foofcoug

7:03pm

lol. That ridiculous conclusion is based entirely off the ranking of the top current team in each conference

TCuz

7:04pm

Late-season losses hurt. Early losses don’t. Blowouts matter.

rainorsnow

6:59pm

Like Alabama

coug10278

7:00pm

I forgot to add . . . SEC is exempt from these rules.

rainorsnow

7:02pm

BYU is choking away chance. Can't blame the committee.

SoValleyCOUG

7:07pm

Yep. Don't disappear in the 1st half v ASU & only score 13 offensive pts v KU's

Forzaitalia

7:17pm

Committee reasoning

Rivers Cuomo

6:57pm

Where would 11-0 BYU be ranked right now? 3, 4, 5, or 6?

foofcoug

6:57pm

Probably 4 behind Oregon, OSU, and Texas

775coug

6:58pm

They chose a heckuva time to spit the bit.

foofcoug

7:00pm

Actually if they beat a ranked ASU on the road I can see them jumping Texas

775coug

7:00pm

They wouldn’t be near Texas with one loss

BYU '80

7:01pm

Imagine being in a place where we're ranked 4 but arguing we should be 2. Sad...

foofcoug

7:03pm

What’s near? Byu was already 3 spots away from Texas

775coug

7:05pm

You didn’t mention the Kansas game. They lost that one

BYU '80

7:07pm

The prompt this entire time has been if byu was undefeated

775coug

7:09pm

Oh you’re saying byu with one loss? No the prompt has been if byu was undefeated

775coug

7:06pm

You’re right original post was undefeated. They’d be up around 4

BYU '80

7:08pm

I dont want to think about it

Deleted

6:59pm

Bama at 13 is criminal

AZPTCOUG

6:55pm

SMU gonna drop past Clemson if they lose the CCG smh

jigidajrit

6:54pm

Colorado got hosed the most

RealSimsShadY

6:53pm

Seriously bring back the computers

BYU '80

6:53pm

Here you go:

Madam Pattirini

7:03pm

Well that’s one computer and the worst one for byu

BYU '80

7:09pm

SOR is usually just a component of a computer ranking, right?

Madam Pattirini

7:14pm

Probably the best one

BYU '80

7:19pm

BCS rankings:

Madam Pattirini

7:16pm

The Big XII is the sacrificial lamb for the P4 so any allegations of antitrust

kansascougar

6:51pm

Those in power are paving the way to demote a royalty-program-less Big12 to

LeftOfNormal

6:54pm

Dang, just realized the season is almost over! What a great time to be a Coug! Go MBB!

NonmormonYfan89 Starter

6:51pm

Don’t we still have like 6 games left?

Viva Campeche

6:55pm

Indiana played well against Ohio st for five minutes

BYU '80

6:50pm

Tulane is a 2-loss team

Cougs4Lfe

6:50pm

The committee:

oxcoug

6:50pm

3 3-loss SEC teams ranked above 3 2-loss Big 12 teams... C'mon man.

Cougs4Lfe

6:49pm

And B12 teams play 9 conference games too

Projectoor

6:50pm

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6:49pm

Bama is so overrated it’s maddening. Too bad Georgia had to take a dump the

jigidajrit

6:47pm

Lose to a cellar dweller by three tds. Go down same amount as byu

BYU '80

6:49pm

Three very high quality losses tell a different story.

vagabonder

6:50pm

They shouldn't even be in the CFP conversation at this point

ElCapo

6:53pm

Definitely not after getting blown out.

coug10278

6:58pm

I’ll always remember him for coaching Jim McMahon to the Superbowl

AF Cougar

6:46pm

And for getting the Fridge a Superbowl TD and not Payton.

foofcoug

6:50pm

Close wins aren't valued. Just blowouts and close losses.

IronPotato

6:45pm

Except when Boise barely beats Wyoming and Nevada.

Short_Changed

7:44pm

Tulane has beaten nobody. Even less than bsu

BYU '80

6:45pm

And they’ve lost twice.

rivercitycoug

6:46pm

They have a #28 strength of record. The committee makes no sense.

VirginiaPeanut

6:47pm

Everyone not in the SEC & BIG10 should tell both to kick rocks. No sane person

coug10278

6:44pm

Acc has three teams in with comparable numbers to big12

BYU '80

6:45pm

Clemson also overrated

BYU '80

6:43pm

They’ll lose on Saturday anyway

Beggar

6:47pm

TV dollars run the whole thing. They've made the Big12 the new MWC. Ridiculous.

IronPotato

6:43pm

That people haven't seen this coming a mile away amazes me. Royalty Programs.

LeftOfNormal

6:52pm

With all the money involved, it shocks me that major lawsuits haven’t occurred

Powerbait DPM

7:22pm

The loss to Kansas was catastrophic. Image beating Kansas and losing to ASU.

CObluezone

6:43pm

It appears that losing games late in the season is catastrophic. Lose early you're OK.

GfB

6:49pm

Especially to NIU

pegushin

6:51pm

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