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In offensive statistics here are our lowest stats when compared to other teams

CSoul Hardcore Democrat

3:15pm

Arod said in media this last week the offense is pretty banged up…

Cougs2012

3:15pm

The awesome thing is we've played 10 games and still control our destiny to NC.

maYbe

3:15pm

Excel help

dmatt

3:15pm

ChatGPT it

Kelbob

3:15pm

BYU fandom coming in handy starting Puka and Taysom today.

JuicyJam

3:13pm

Do you guys remember under Gary Crowton in 2001 BYU's average scoring drive was

HouseDeeking

3:09pm

POLL: What percent chance to win vs ASU do you give us?

Rexy Coug

3:06pm

💯 because I’m not a little Ute

Longseason

3:08pm

This turned out to be pretty accurate.

momowagon

3:04pm

How predictable is ARod's offense, based on tendencies, formations, situations,

SV72 Sale

3:02pm

What about all the plays that were successful and worked? Was the defense

Polecat

3:03pm

Notice that I didn't say EVERY play?

SV72 Sale

3:05pm

Oh ALMOST every play. Gotcha. I honestly don’t think it’s the play selection

Polecat

3:10pm

Hans asked the same question. Says maybe there are sets or people on the field

Flyski

3:03pm

It was obvious when Jake said “kill”, Kansas knew it was an audible to option.

idcougarfan

3:08pm

I think he does a good job mixing it up. We saw things we haven’t last night.

Cougarite

3:09pm

Roughly the same predictability as everyone else's offense. I'm not sure why

shoganai

3:10pm

You know the short side is going to used like a free swearing pass on CB would be.

foofcoug

3:14pm

Offense has been good the past couple games outside of RZ

puntersarepeople

3:14pm

Well, the fade on 1st and goal from the 5 with plenty of time

GSwarriorcoug

3:14pm

This guy is CB

cruiserhead Truly Addicted User

3:01pm

The emotional roller coaster that is CFB

NYCougz

3:02pm

Also CB: fire coaches AND our players aren’t good enough to compete

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:03pm

💯

JayCoug

3:08pm

Before anyone crowns CU & Coach Prime

RockyBalboa

3:00pm

Yes, but the way that CU is playing the last month ... I think it's a foregone

runnincoug

3:02pm

CU is playing great right now.

RockyBalboa

3:03pm

What about the way Kansas is playing? Knocked off ISU & BYU

Cougarite

3:11pm

They aren’t playing nearly as well as Colorado is

byuTX

3:15pm

I'm tired of Drake Toll. He's saying we were supposed to be the team that gave respect to the B12 and slams us over it.

AltTabbins I got UtahFootballGM banned.

2:56pm

Drake Toll is just an entertainer with a good broadcasting voice. His stuff

Polecat

3:00pm

Drake Toll is a YouTuber...it honestly doesn't matter what he thinks

MaximusMeridius

3:06pm

I disagree, he is a good advocate for us. We lost, he shouldn’t need to spin it

Ol Big Bear

3:06pm

He’s a good cheerleader for us. I don’t think we can say advocate because

Polecat

3:13pm

We have to take the bad with the good. Drake is solid.

shakarocks

3:10pm

He basically has had this opinion since the KSU game

canuckchuck

3:10pm

I read that as "I don't like Drake Toll, because he's not a BYU homer"

RealSimsShadY

3:14pm

Do you believe BYU can beat Az State in Saturday?

Coug Dude

2:55pm

Yes they can and I believe they will

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:56pm

I liked what I heard from Kalani in the post game. I think the boys will be ready

WDaddy

2:56pm

Can? Yes. Will?

XORCoug

2:56pm

22 points scored against Utah. 13 against

Archaea

2:57pm

Run out of gas? No.

NYCougz

3:04pm

13 points against KU is good?

Archaea

3:06pm

Who said that? The running out of gas is just a silly analogy

NYCougz

3:13pm

You’re right, let’s forfeit the rest of the season. Can someone draft a memo to the team?

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:12pm

No but chill on happiness when it should be angry how badly it is

Archaea

3:15pm

Yes

Rexy Coug

2:56pm

At beginning of season yes. Now no.

Archaea

2:56pm

100%

TANK

2:57pm

Can? No. Will, with the refs’ help? Definitely.

Nikomedes

2:58pm

If we recapture the fire we had in the first 3 games.. yes. If we don't make any changes, no.

AltTabbins

2:58pm

Absolutely. They have been driving on offense all year they have just struggled finishing

CSoul

2:59pm

Defenses have figured ARod out.

Archaea

3:00pm

No they haven't. Kansas didn't "figure us out". It's fixable.

CSoul

3:01pm

Next year. Scoring only 13 points against a mediocre defense

Archaea

3:05pm

What, exactly, did they figure out?

shoganai

3:07pm

What plays we run near the red zone.

Archaea

3:08pm

There's pills for that

MaximusMeridius

3:07pm

of course

JOPE

3:00pm

Not as the offense is presently constituted. Can they get it together? Who knows

kurda

3:00pm

We’ll have to get turnovers and points out of them.

Bluforever

3:00pm

Yes. In some ways ASU is an easier matchup than Kansas.

shoganai

3:06pm

I’ll ask this again since nobody replied last time . BYU has some guy named Matt

Polecat

2:55pm

His profile on byucougars.com is literally blank.

Polecat

2:56pm

I found it:

Polecat

2:58pm

X Twitter feed

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:00pm

Points scored on Kansas in conference play: 32,38,35,14,29,36,13

texbird33

2:53pm

We all expected a shootout. We got the opposite.

NYCougz

2:54pm

Thanks ARod

idcougarfan

3:11pm

True or false...the BYU vs ASU game is essentially a CCG play-in game for both

MaximusMeridius

2:53pm

Of course it is.

shoganai

2:54pm

BYu is toast. No offense.

Archaea

2:54pm

Not the question I asked

MaximusMeridius

3:04pm

If BYU were playing well yes it would be but

Archaea

3:07pm

True

Bluforever

2:55pm

I believe it is but obviously there are scenarios where BYU sneaks in

coug10278

3:01pm

Interesting thread on Big 12 media rights.

UNLVcougar

2:50pm

Pretty disappointed. I don’t want to have to pay for Max 3 or 4 times a year and

Charles Darwin

2:52pm

Zero chance I get Max. I'll be using other means if that's the case

MaximusMeridius

2:54pm

Add max to the Disney +. Cheap. I love byu. Can’t help it. I’d rather go a

Don Carlton

2:56pm

Zero chance I add any more subscription services. I'll still be watching...just

MaximusMeridius

3:03pm

Stealing is wrong.

TCuz

3:04pm

Being a huge jerk is wrong too but you preach that we should be jerks to

MaximusMeridius

3:14pm

RE: Zero chance I add any more subscription services. I'll still be

Charles Darwin

3:10pm

If you’re on an old AT&T cell plan you may have Max and not know it.

Tokolosh

3:10pm

Was that written by AI? That wasn’t interesting at all

TCuz

2:56pm

As a side note, Max has a great catalog

Gustav

3:09pm

No reason to believe that a team that was sub 500

Archaea

2:50pm

Need a better OC as well.

foofcoug

2:50pm

Or at least someone who calls better plays

Archaea

2:52pm

Bittersweet season lol this is comedy gold

puntersarepeople

2:54pm

It will likely lose the next three

Archaea

2:55pm

What on earth are you talking about?

puntersarepeople

2:57pm

It scored 13 points against KU.

Archaea

2:58pm

Log off. This ain't it chief.

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

3:00pm

You are drunk on your own pessimism and projecting it on the team

puntersarepeople

3:02pm

So you think the offense is progressing?

Archaea

3:02pm

No I just don’t believe in a death spiral we can’t get out of

puntersarepeople

3:04pm

We were three plays from winning that game 20-3. 1. Uncalled massive offensive PI that allowed them to get the first TD.

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

3:00pm

Offense scored 13 and 22 points.

Archaea

3:01pm

Why are you even a BYU fan if that's the way you view the football program? Sounds like a miserable way to fan.

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

3:02pm

Why are you a fan if you live losses

Archaea

3:04pm

I would have been happy with just making a bowl game this season. This season has far surpassed all of my expectations

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

3:10pm

For me it is playoffs or bust.

Archaea

3:11pm

We can still get to the playoffs. We just need to win the conference championship game, and this team is totally capable

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

3:12pm

Uh 9-1 is competing…

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:01pm

Competing means winning everything you have a chance to win

Archaea

3:02pm

Colorado has lost twice = must have lousy players or they didn’t have a chance to win

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:05pm

But now they are playing well at the end of the season and

Archaea

3:09pm

Give them a week

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:12pm

Every week is a new week. For those that watch football.

NYCougz

3:15pm

No that is not what it means.

NYCougz

3:05pm

Man, some of you guys are unstable. BYU is going to be a 10 win team, maybe more. All while playing in a P4

Busting Coveys

3:02pm

If you see a special season in sight and lose it that is bittersweet

Archaea

3:04pm

The prelude to 84 was a one loss 83 season

puntersarepeople

3:08pm

Then I will be excited next year.

Archaea

3:12pm

Very special season so far no one saw coming except the very coaches and team who fought in the game and lost the

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:08pm

The worst thing about the fade throw yesterday

Coug Dude

2:49pm

We have play makers. That’s is who should be targeted especially in the RZ

NYCougz

2:51pm

The problem is that Jake made the wrong decision. Perhaps the team needs to

Polecat

2:53pm

The fade cost BYU the game. If BYU gets a FG they go into the half 13-10. Then

Benfica1

2:53pm

That was only 1 option. Should only be thrown if the TE is totally open

MaximusMeridius

2:56pm

I choose to believe that isn't necessarily the first read on the play yesterday.

JuicyJam

3:10pm

Marion was wide open. Terrible decision and throw by Jake.

idcougarfan

3:14pm

Wow hopefully you had Taysom on your fantasy team today. Unbelievable

OU Cougar

2:48pm

And he’s NOT a HOF player?

Dr MoBYU

2:51pm

I did, and he may have saved my week.

SoCalCoug

3:07pm

That'll tick off Kamara

Hank Rearden

3:12pm

Left 50 points on my bench between Goff and Williams

Icelandic Cougar

2:46pm

Why did you have an active QB on your bench?

Belboz

2:47pm

I have 2 QB’s. I started hurts this week.

Icelandic Cougar

2:47pm

You'd be better off using that spot on someone like Blake Corum or Cam Akers

Belboz

2:49pm

Oh ye of little faith

TheMoose

2:44pm

Could be a blessing in disguise.

rockhound

3:11pm

Ref for Chiefs-Bills was the same ref for the Carlin Clay drop

Conan Best Poster on CB -JD Power

2:43pm

So the Cougs lay an egg so will the Chiefs. When it rains it pours

Archaea

2:45pm

I just realized sum thing

Father_Ezekiel

2:39pm

Two weeks from now we’re going to be talking about how to best stop Hunter

allaboutthegainz

2:38pm

Beat asu

NYCougz

2:40pm

Tall order

Big12Yfan

2:45pm

Quality team. Get it done.

NYCougz

2:47pm

Yessss

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:41pm

A lot of sad BYU fans on my flight home.

cruiserhead All-American

2:36pm

Nobody saying much. Just some minor nods in commiseration.

cruiserhead

2:38pm

At least we chose Allegiant this time & saved money.

BigD Coug

2:39pm

Hello!

cruiserhead

2:39pm

I love having meaningful football games deep into November. So exciting!

VirginiaPeanut

2:35pm

Idk I really miss the 8:15 pm kickoffs vs Idaho in November on ESPNU.

allaboutthegainz

2:39pm

And umass

NYCougz

2:49pm

Yep. I don’t miss independence at all. The season was over in oct

NYCougz

2:49pm

I doubt A Rod purposefully constructed together a 10-minute drive to start

brazilcoug

2:35pm

Not finishing drives=bad offense

idcougarfan

2:36pm

I’m not here to argue that point.

brazilcoug

2:39pm

When Kansas had the ball, they only had one sustained drive

Idacoug

2:59pm

13 points = bad

Still Blue

2:37pm

Yup. Yards and TOP doesn't matter. Points are what wins games and they got 3 in the second half.

foofcoug

2:39pm

Ummmm.....13 points against that D is Baaaaaaddddd.

notsofast

2:38pm

Horrible

Big12Yfan

2:49pm

We kept them off the field for sure. If we’d hit the fade and scored the FG to start 2nd everyone would talk about how

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:44pm

Of course the plan was to keep the ball away from Kansas, but you have to finish

Idacoug

2:57pm

Three points on three possessions inside the 15

LV Coug

2:59pm

So on the punt play, why wasn't the Kansas WR flagged for a penalty? He didn't

astroman

2:34pm

Refs no showed worse than BYU. Made 0 calls when they could’ve made some

puntersarepeople

2:37pm

Don’t know for sure, but I imagine the receiving team’s player has to actually

XORCoug

2:39pm

When it hits a player in the back of the head he wasn't preparing to catch it.

Bonoman

2:44pm

He wasn't a punt receiver. It'd be the same if the punt hit a player blocking a gunner.

foofcoug

2:41pm

Got it. Without a designated punt receiver there is no interference?

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:45pm

Doesn't have to be designated. Had Johnson turned and tried to receive the ball or signal fair catch, then you could

foofcoug

2:48pm

Pooch kick is so rare…

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:53pm

“Kick catch interference” requires an attempt to catch.

Tricky

2:56pm

If we had lost to Okla st, I would’ve been frustrated but tip my cap to them.

Mr. Scoobs

2:34pm

Our defense was completely lost that game. Jake bailed us out. Kansas was the

momowagon

2:43pm

Yep. Perspective. Offense had to bail out 2nd Q defense meltdown at U. This team has found ways to win together.

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:46pm

That’s been the strength of the team. All groups play hard and believ in each

puntersarepeople

2:49pm

Defense crapped the bed on the punt. Not many possessions that game. So many

Mr. Scoobs

2:48pm

Dude it was one of the top 5 flukiest plays of our lifetime. Easy on the defense who played their hearts out.

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:52pm

Saints gave Taysom a lot more touches this week

El Paso Coug

2:32pm

Dennis Allen did not utilize him at all. They have paid him so much money to

Cougz19

2:36pm

Probability: Jake lands in the Feterik / Walsh range of BYU QBs who are good but

oxcoug

2:30pm

How does he compare to Sarks junior year?

cruiserhead

2:34pm

He was shaky and not good until he put it together in the final game for an

oxcoug

2:37pm

This year? Better than Sark’s jr year

Bluforever

2:59pm

Oh man. He's not as good as Walsh. That's just nuts

Belboz

2:36pm

When you factor his running ability vs Walsh's total inability to run he

oxcoug

2:37pm

I.e. that 5. whatever combine 40 that got him run from the NFL draft

oxcoug

2:40pm

I'll take a guy who is capable of throwing over 600 yards in a game

Belboz

2:43pm

Walsh went 2-6 vs current power programs. Got destroyed on most of those

oxcoug

2:48pm

Yeah, BYU had terrible defenses those years

Belboz

2:52pm

We scored 14 and he threw three INTs vs UCLA. Hard to write that off to our D.

oxcoug

2:57pm

Some of Retzlaff's big wins (SMU and Utah)

cwilke1

3:01pm

Sure. I wouldn't argue with that. Retz made a great play to get that SMU win tho

oxcoug

3:02pm

Because our defenses sucked.

NYCougz

2:53pm

Mmm hmm. See above.

oxcoug

2:57pm

Neither Walsh nor Retzlaff are playing defense and special teams. Retzlaff has

cwilke1

2:58pm

Different eras… qb’s didn’t run back then unless you’re Randall Cunningham

Das_Countach

2:42pm

How often does Retzlaff throw for 300, 400, 500, 619 yards in a game?

Belboz

2:43pm

As noted above. Walsh played UTEP twice, New Mexico, etc etc. And went 2-6 and

oxcoug

2:49pm

he played schedules similar to those of Wilson, McMahon, Steve Young, Bosco

Belboz

2:54pm

McMahon and Young were a combined 9-4 vs current P4 teams. Walsh was 2-6.

oxcoug

3:09pm

That includes wins over Wisky and Mizzou in addition to the obvious four wins

oxcoug

3:11pm

I was at the USU game but in general count me unimpressed with his leadership

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:54pm

Walsh is very underrated in byu lore

NYCougz

2:39pm

Walsh gets a bad rap because he didn’t beat Utah and BYU had horrid defenses

arizonacougarfan

2:45pm

Yep. And followed detmer.

NYCougz

2:52pm

Wash clears— (in the words of today’s kids)

Das_Countach

2:47pm

He can't throw the ball to the inside on that fade. That is QB 101 and speaks to your good, but not great argument.....

Bonoman

2:37pm

He is a "gamer" though and leaves it all out there. We know that, we also know the other stuff will happen too

Bonoman

2:38pm

Walsh was way better than Retzy

arizonacougarfan

2:44pm

Neither of those guys are a 10th the leader Jake is and didn’t face the competition or scrutiny. I’ll take retzlaff

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:50pm

Feterik seems like a really good comparison.

shoganai

2:56pm

That's pretty accurate I think. He's a pretty good QB, but not elite.

runnincoug

2:59pm

Maybe a better leader than pure QB skill, but so much improved YoY

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:10pm

He's got another year too. He improved a lot year 1 to year 2. I'd expect

pinolero

3:03pm

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Just watched the punt for the first time on video and I’m even more stunned

Gonna take a long time for me to forgive that outrageous corner-fade call. Cost

I am a 47 yr old man, that looks like a pudgy 37 yr old. I am a very boisterous

Perspective...

I’m calling it

Tyler Batty, on behalf of a very grateful Cougar nation, please please please

Roberts said the fade was the wrong read

CB is so laughable and predictable after a game like last night

KS surprised me tonight on the post game. Actually had more than coach speak.

Ugh. The media is bring insanely disrespectful towards BYU.

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