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B12 standings are a total mess, but you know who isn't in the mix.....?

Penske Material Don't worry about it

12:19am

Wish we had Tanner Mangum on that Hail Mary pass. That guy was a master at it

sportsbro

12:15am

POLL: How many championships from the non-revenue generating sports would you give up to make the CFP this year?

LaVellIfIKnow

12:14am

I wouldn’t trade a NC in another sport for a chance to win one in FB

Hawk Talons

12:17am

I would trade a XC championship, we already have like infinity of those.

dfudge

12:18am

I would also add that Coach Eyestone and Coach Taylor are rock stars.

Sandstone Cougar Your true friend

12:11am

Did Kalani say why the entire team failed to show up in the first half, and what

Hinta

12:11am

He has to look at film

DirtyWater

12:19am

Anyone watching the F1 race in Las Vegas?

CougarGuy84

12:11am

F1 races are way too short for the amount of money people drop on them.

Sandstone Cougar

12:14am

True.

CougarGuy84

12:15am

Kalani Sitake is one of the few coaches out there who inspires me to be a better person. Some hires and calls are

Sandstone Cougar Your true friend

12:09am

Agreed. I hope for his success on the field because he’s a legend off the field

Hawk Talons

12:12am

There’s a picture of him taking his hat off straining to shake the other coaches

franklyvulgar

12:14am

Crazy that he was high giving ASU fans during the delay. I’d be too petty.

cougarblue

12:19am

Is ASU playing for anything this week? They’re in no matter what, maybe they

the_byu_flash

12:09am

They have to beat Arizona to guarantee it

Tuskaloosa Cougar

12:10am

They need to win or have others lose

johnnybyu

12:10am

If they lose their out

Crowd Factor

12:10am

Of course it was a record setting day for posts. 2 NCAA national championships

fbguru

12:08am

BYU could potentially have a win over the ACC champion SMU

BleedingBlue01

12:07am

Based on Massey ratings BYU has a little more than 51% prob to get to CCG

Rexy Coug

12:06am

Being in a conference is cool look at all the teams that still have something to

franklyvulgar

12:05am

Wahoo! Free NFL Prime Ticket Day!

TNT

12:02am

I sure wish Kansas was playing one of the teams we need to lose- they’re on a

franklyvulgar

Nov 23, 11:58pm

Only reason we have a chance at all is cause they beat Colorado today and ISU a

BYUFootballisBack

12:03am

This team is so predictable, they have one hiccup to the season last week so

missourijok

Nov 23, 11:58pm

The second half was good except for the end tough to come back from 21-3

franklyvulgar

12:00am

Especially on the road. Our fans showed out though.

NYCougz

12:00am

10 thoughts after attending the game

Crowd Factor

Nov 23, 11:57pm

What if BYU wins, but ASU and ISU both lose?

Penske Material Don't worry about it

Nov 23, 11:56pm

Yes I think so

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:57pm

Colorado has to win also.

Busting Coveys

Nov 23, 11:57pm

BYU co if they win else byu vs winner of Kansas and Baylor lol I think

franklyvulgar

Nov 23, 11:57pm

Baylor if Baylor wins otherwise Kansas State not kansas

BYUFootballisBack

12:04am

BYU vs CO if CO wins

Crowd Factor

Nov 23, 11:57pm

What if ISU, ASU, AND Colorado lose....? Not likely, but not impossible.

Penske Material

Nov 23, 11:58pm

Baylor if they win, KState if Baylor loses.

molodyets

12:03am

I missed it, was the hold call on the utah field goal a legit call? Seems crazy.

Bluedarts

Nov 23, 11:52pm

They called holding on Utah’s dline while Iowa state attempted a field goal. Never seen that before.

Haysom Till

Nov 23, 11:58pm

Any word from Harlan on whether or not he’s happy to be in the Big 12 tonight?

cougarmeister

12:07am

The institutional lack of response to his idiocy is beyond baffling.

fbguru

12:12am

They sweep everything under the rug at the "U".

dfudge

12:17am

Silver lining- games when defense struggles, I’m less concerned Hill leaves 😂

Das_Countach

Nov 23, 11:51pm

BYU’s paths to the championship game.

Haka

Nov 23, 11:50pm

5, 7, 9, 14, 15, 16, 19 all lost today.

It's A Bowling Ball

Nov 23, 11:46pm

What a day for us to lose....

Penske Material

Nov 23, 11:47pm

We'd have jumped at least 3 spots

byuluvr

Nov 23, 11:49pm

Crazy day for the sec. Bama getting housed and ole miss losing.

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:48pm

And byu will probably fall the farthest…

cougaman

Nov 23, 11:57pm

This legitimately was a quality loss too.

vagabonder

12:00am

If Tennessee loses to Vanderbilt & Texas beats A&M, SEC is in big trouble...

PortlandCoug

Nov 23, 11:43pm

They’ll still have 5 teams in which is a jone

Kolipoki

Nov 23, 11:46pm

Santa Clara pushed 1 seed UNC to limit in second round but UNC wins 1-0 on very

cwilke1

Nov 23, 11:43pm

It's actually a pretty solid performance for the Big 12.

Gentleman Stan

Nov 23, 11:45pm

On the last BYU possession in the last two games the team was in position to win

Hinta

Nov 23, 11:42pm

Seems like the big moments have often been too big for him

Tuskaloosa Cougar

Nov 23, 11:43pm

Man, he has delivered several big games this year. Everyone needs to step up

byusage

Nov 23, 11:43pm

The story is cool and everyone wants him to be the guy. But he isn’t good enough to be a BYU starting quarterback

BYU Tar Heel

Nov 23, 11:44pm

I dunno he’s been good at times in the clutch I’d point to maybe his overall

franklyvulgar

Nov 23, 11:44pm

I think I'd rather have JR with another year of experience than taking a chance on a young QB. Unless that QB is the

Colorado

Nov 23, 11:46pm

Seems like an over generalization to say JR can't get it done in big games.

Bartimaeus

Nov 23, 11:46pm

He's fine. He made a lot of great plays. No help from run game. Critical drops

KayakCoug

Nov 23, 11:50pm

That last one was on Lassiter

2FarGone

12:02am

I’m not an X’s and O’s Expert, but I rewatched that play a handful of times

Crowd Factor

12:10am

I have a million thoughts… But man am I proud to be a BYU fan and our culture.

cougarmikey

Nov 23, 11:41pm

Remember that it literally took Tuiaki resigning because he couldn't deal with

CougfromtheSouth

Nov 23, 11:41pm

For old time's sake

Carnac

Nov 23, 11:40pm

Can someone that knows the Big 12 tiebreaker explain why Iowa State is in over

Gentleman Stan

Nov 23, 11:35pm

Someone mentioned the record of their conf opponents ?

franklyvulgar

Nov 23, 11:36pm

Simple we will have beat and lost to the same teams, it goes to strength of

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:36pm

Same record vs common opponents, so it goes to conference sos

molodyets

12:04am

It’s crazy to think that there is a path for Kansas to get into the playoff at 7-6 as Big 12 Champion

2FarGone No One of Consequence

Nov 23, 11:34pm

I missed the little St next to Kansas 😅 Baylor could play us but not Kansas

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:35pm

If Baylor won under those conditions do they get in ?

franklyvulgar

Nov 23, 11:36pm

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BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:37pm

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BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:38pm

Would a 7-6 Kansas be one of the top 5 ranked conference champions?

hydro

Nov 23, 11:38pm

This. People just assume the new playoff format guarantees the P4 champs a spot.

bluesloth

Nov 23, 11:40pm

Not likely. Army for starters if they win the AAC.

WizeGuise

Nov 23, 11:40pm

Kansas would not make the playoff. Have to be fifth highest ranked conference

WizeGuise

Nov 23, 11:39pm

I don’t think that’s right. Kansas has 4 losses in conf. There will definitely b

Rexy Coug

Nov 23, 11:40pm

It should be Kansas State not Kansas

richvan

Nov 23, 11:49pm

POLL: How superstitious are you?

RJCOD

Nov 23, 11:28pm

I guess I’ll go first. I have lucky shoes.

RJCOD

Nov 23, 11:30pm

I HAD lucky shoes.

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:32pm

My lucky shoes haven’t been very lucky lately.

RJCOD

Nov 23, 11:39pm

I have worn the same t-shirt for every game this year. Bought it from Royal Army walking into the first home game.

Busting Coveys

Nov 23, 11:31pm

Just a little stitious

Buffalo

Nov 23, 11:32pm

RE: Just a little stitious

Mr. Belding

Nov 23, 11:57pm

I take the blame for this loss. I didn’t watch all of the pregame, and used a

NorthernCougifornia

Nov 23, 11:34pm

Do better!!

RJCOD

Nov 23, 11:41pm

I also had friends buy tickets to the Big 12 CCG & BYU hasn’t won since.

RJCOD

Nov 23, 11:40pm

I only sit in certain seats to watch games. Shirts, hats, and even socks.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

Nov 23, 11:59pm

The two teams that didnt want to come to B12 both causing the biggest trouble

ABCoug

Nov 23, 11:25pm

From the ESPN article on the game:

garyfan

Nov 23, 11:24pm

They control their own destiny, BYU doesn’t

cougaman

Nov 23, 11:26pm

Not to mention that ASU doesn’t need any help while BYU does.

garyfan

Nov 23, 11:27pm

That’s, uh, exactly what he said.

XORCoug

Nov 23, 11:32pm

In in the original post it stated that

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:36pm

Ahhh…

XORCoug

Nov 23, 11:39pm

BYU doesn't have a greater than 50% chance

Carnac

Nov 23, 11:26pm

Yes they do, well depending on updated game probabilities

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:27pm

Here's the breakdown, but the odds will change after today's games so could drop

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:30pm

He said greater than 50% to make the playoffs

Carnac

Nov 23, 11:32pm

My bad, I've blocked playoffs from my brain all I'm thinking is CCG 😅

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:34pm

You’re right. I misspoke on that. More like 25% ish odds for playoff. Still not

garyfan

Nov 23, 11:35pm

Close to 50% on straight up 50% finishes next week above 50% if considering odds

ABCoug

Nov 23, 11:29pm

RE: BYU doesn't have a greater than 50% chance

cougfanblue

Nov 23, 11:30pm

RE: BYU doesn't have a greater than 50% chance

garyfan

Nov 23, 11:30pm

Isn’t it beat Houston & then KState beats Iowa St & BYU has tie breaker vs CU?

Das_Countach

Nov 23, 11:30pm

That or ASU loses and we play ISU, or both lose and we play Colorado, if all 3

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:33pm

…crazy, but I think the most likely scenario is KSU beats Iowa St- I feel good

Das_Countach

Nov 23, 11:36pm

I think KSU "should" win but who knows in this conference

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:39pm

Yes because k state beat co

franklyvulgar

Nov 23, 11:34pm

Good let them think that and then get stomped

franklyvulgar

Nov 23, 11:31pm

They key play was the onside kick. Dodge that and it's a different game.

dYrtbYkerYder

Nov 23, 11:23pm

ASU coach said they weren’t trying to hit BYU player.

RJCOD

Nov 23, 11:24pm

I don’t believe anything he says

franklyvulgar

Nov 23, 11:25pm

2 weeks in a row we were super dumb on a kick or punt and it resulted in a fumbl

icecougar

Nov 23, 11:29pm

He said the exact opposite actually.

rad dawg

Nov 23, 11:30pm

Yep, that’s what I heard.

XORCoug

Nov 23, 11:34pm

Ok. I guess I heard they just wanted to squib kick it

RJCOD

Nov 23, 11:37pm

He said they were going to squib so might as well try to hit a player

dtownCoug

Nov 23, 11:46pm

Taking a full half to score 3 points was the difference.

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:24pm

Taking 3 quarters to force a punt was too

puntersarepeople

Nov 23, 11:26pm

Difference is most folks were fully expecting BYU to have to score a lot to keep

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:28pm

You expected our D to get dominated? I didn’t.

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:35pm

28 points is dominated? Dudes on byusn were expecting the O to need to score 30

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:37pm

21 points in a half and a 7 minute drive to start the half where they dropped a

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:40pm

3 points in 1 half. Our O struggled hard today - just like the last 2 games

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:41pm

Yep it did. It’s hard to score without the ball but yes.

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:43pm

Offense took 4 drives to score 3 points in the first half. They had the ball.

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:46pm

Yep. And asu scored touchdowns on three of their first four drives and we

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:50pm

Board name checks out.

Malathion

Nov 23, 11:56pm

I guess the good news is byu has been in every game that’s pretty crazy

franklyvulgar

Nov 23, 11:25pm

Kinda like the pooch to helmet. But would be nice to score TDs in the first half

BleedingBlue01

Nov 23, 11:25pm

At a minimum.

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:26pm

Or give up less than 21 points

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:35pm

Defense carried the team the last 2 games. It was time for the O to show up.

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:38pm

Got it. I forgot whose turn it was.

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:41pm

Offense has to show up at least once in 3 games.

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:42pm

Right so offense owes the defense 3 games now? I hope we are tracking this.

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:44pm

Don't worry, I am. So each time a moron tries to blame the D for a loss when the

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:48pm

You are on fire today. Every time skatabo ran of chunk plays I said

NYCougz

Nov 23, 11:51pm

Key play was ASU running it down our throat. But onside kick was my #3. Big

johnnybyu

Nov 23, 11:29pm

Nah, this was a team loss. The D had short fields due to an inept O.

KayakCoug

Nov 23, 11:54pm

First td yes second was a 95 year drive

johnnybyu

12:04am

4th drive in 1st half was 50 yards. Short field from onside. Not O’s fault but

Malathion

12:11am

When is the last time we've had a dominant D-Tackle? Khyris Tonga?

UnhealthyAddiction

Nov 23, 11:18pm

We knew the Dline was gonna be an issue before the season started.

karatekid

Nov 23, 11:21pm

Three or four years in a row though...

UnhealthyAddiction

Nov 23, 11:23pm

When our starting DT transferred to Arkansas, it hurt.

Dark Forest Green

Nov 23, 11:26pm

He was not on track to start. Not close

puntersarepeople

Nov 23, 11:27pm

Does he even play? Thought he was minimal role player. Lost track.

coug10278

Nov 23, 11:27pm

Not much. Obviously went for the money

Dark Forest Green

Nov 23, 11:30pm

Kalani vs asu coach 3 rounds cage match who you got

franklyvulgar

Nov 23, 11:17pm

I’d have to watch the tape first

LaVellIfIKnow

Nov 23, 11:18pm

Kalani. Little dude has passion and intensity, but he’d burn himself out quickly

gwalker

Nov 23, 11:18pm

Kalani by a million.

CougsBeatU

Nov 23, 11:18pm

Kalani would (pre Buster) Tyson him.

coug10278

Nov 23, 11:18pm

Kalani is one big dude

ABCoug

Nov 23, 11:21pm

KS would win…but he might not start fighting until midway 3rd round

Borg

Nov 23, 11:25pm

He'd be toast by the 3rd. Better put him down early

Plato

Nov 23, 11:32pm

I think you missed the irony of KS and BYU slow starts

Borg

Nov 23, 11:37pm

Last time BYU had a defensive player that struck fear into opponents?

BleedingBlue01

Nov 23, 11:15pm

That is the one that immediately comes to mind. Or Dirty Dan

TNT

Nov 23, 11:17pm

Or Fred Warner

Hawk Talons

Nov 23, 11:18pm

Daniel Sorenson. That dude could hit!

pigfoot

Nov 23, 11:19pm

If you were a kick returner watch out

TNT

Nov 23, 11:19pm

Mo Langi.

Shore10

Nov 23, 11:21pm

2012 but offense struggled with better teams

coug10278

Nov 23, 11:29pm

Takitaki in 2018 was our last big star player

puntersarepeople

Nov 23, 11:37pm

Oh yeah. Good call

TNT

12:03am

What would you have felt better about? Needing a TD for the win or needing a FG

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:14pm

All the 2-pt tries made sense in context. Hindsight is 20-20

arcawley

Nov 23, 11:15pm

You almost never go for 2 before the 4th quarter. Should not have done it

johnnybyu

Nov 23, 11:15pm

Making it a 10 point is valuable and NFL teams do it all the time

arcawley

Nov 23, 11:18pm

Rarely in the 3rd q. We could have gone for it on out next td

johnnybyu

Nov 23, 11:19pm

Analytics don’t agree. Better to do it sooner so you know where you stand

arcawley

Nov 23, 11:21pm

It wasn't the first half... It was 21-3 at half, no first half tds

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:21pm

And we went for 2 in the 3rd quarter

johnnybyu

Nov 23, 11:22pm

Well now you edited your message

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:25pm

We went for 2 in the third quarter. There is no arguing that. My point is don’t

johnnybyu

Nov 23, 11:35pm

Hindsight could be brought up with going for it on 4th as well

foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:23pm

I trust Ferrin more than Jake so I guess that’s my answer

LaVellIfIKnow

Nov 23, 11:15pm

Didn't matter because of the interception

ochobeeguy

Nov 23, 11:15pm

Not true we got 2 pts, if kicked all xps we would have got 3 pts, down 4 not 3

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:19pm

Can't just add the two missed 2 points, you also have to subtract the 1 success

BYUFootballisBack

Nov 23, 11:22pm

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foofcoug

Nov 23, 11:22pm

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