"Similar production" doesn't mean that much if you're talking Asst / TO ratio

Mar 29, 2025
5:40:06pm

oxcoug Intervention Needed

once you factor that Demin makes and attempts passes that aren't even on the map for Hall.

Hall does some really good work on PnR but he doesn't make high difficulty passes, Demin often changes the direction of the game with a high difficulty pass.

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Variety of reasons why Dallin's soph stats don't add to "starting Sweet 16 PG"

oxcoug

Mar 29, 3:36pm

TNT is surprised so many CBers think he is good enough against great competition

TNT

Mar 29, 3:45pm

Had similar stats as demin. Don't think it's a stretch to say he can play

SUAVO

Mar 29, 3:50pm

Demin got us the Sweet 16 with an 11/8/8 and makes passes DH would never attempt

oxcoug

Mar 29, 3:53pm

Demin also made horrible passes that Hall did not. I don't really care about

SUAVO

Mar 29, 4:30pm

So in your opinion Hall is good enough to start and get BYU beyond Sweet 16?

TNT

Mar 29, 4:36pm

Really depends on the pieces around him, but I think KY did things right this

SUAVO

Mar 29, 4:40pm

So yes or no

TNT

Mar 29, 4:42pm

Probably not, but I never said he should start over demin

SUAVO

Mar 29, 4:46pm

The evidence of this year says otherwise

DrBYU

Mar 29, 4:54pm

No, the evidence says they had similar production playing the game

SUAVO

Mar 29, 5:06pm

oxcoug

Mar 29, 5:40pm

Demin also makes very dumb passes that Hall knows not to take. So yes,

SUAVO

Mar 29, 8:07pm

Demin was 18 when he made most of those passes. Hall is 22. And yet Hall has

oxcoug

Mar 29, 5:51pm

Don’t bring common sense to this discussion

KYU

Mar 29, 6:42pm

Agreed, but I'm not making an excuse for dumb passes because he's 18. I don't

SUAVO

Mar 29, 8:13pm

Hall had more than his share of dumb passes, can’t hit a free throw and has tunnel vision as a distributor. He did have

KYU

Mar 29, 11:28pm

He's not quick enough. You don't see it? Again TNT is fine with him as a backup

TNT

Mar 29, 3:55pm

I'm not arguing that he should start, but in terms of production he was very

SUAVO

Mar 29, 4:36pm

😂. Hall is no Demin

KYU

Mar 29, 4:18pm

Agreed. Hall was a much steadier hand than demin was through most of the year.

SUAVO

Mar 29, 4:33pm

Halls lows are just as low. If you can’t see the impact Demin had even in a game with turnovers I cant really help

KYU

Mar 29, 4:39pm

Of course he had an impact, but there were and are definitely times demin

SUAVO

Mar 29, 4:45pm

Well yeah he's 22 and has like 100 career starts

oxcoug

Mar 29, 5:37pm

Yep

SUAVO

Mar 29, 8:05pm

Similar? Egor averaged 4 points more per game, 1.5 more assists per game,

Rise Against

Mar 29, 4:41pm

No one thinks he can't play against great competition, just that we don't want

russkiejedi

Mar 29, 8:16pm

Tons of guys on here think he can't play against great competition

SUAVO

Mar 29, 8:26pm

He is a 20 minute a game guy. Needed when possession ball matters. Most important for the regular season slog

CSoul

Mar 29, 3:47pm

I think that's accurate.

oxcoug

Mar 29, 3:48pm

I don't hate Hall, but he was one of our worst players in tournament play.

kimdaddy35

Mar 29, 4:25pm

I’m not really seeing the struggle part outside of the Bama game

puntersarepeople

Mar 29, 4:56pm

Not just a bad TO against Wisky but a terrible whiff of a final shot that he

oxcoug

Mar 29, 5:36pm

He’s had his moments but is inconsistent for a player with 100 career games and

rivercitycoug

Mar 29, 3:50pm

I think KY will be looking to build a roster that can go beyond the Sweet 16

icecougar

Mar 29, 3:55pm

I am a Dallin fan and I think he is a valuable role play. My worry is that he

ShellieCooper

Mar 29, 3:58pm

Well a lot of guys think of themselves as NBA players. It is what it is

TNT

Mar 29, 4:00pm

Go watch our games at Kansas and Oklahoma. Hall was brilliant with Fouss

johnnybyu

Mar 29, 4:57pm

AJ will run the offense a lot of the time

Coop

Mar 29, 5:06pm

Agree with this

johnnybyu

Mar 29, 5:15pm

Hall is a better point guard than Demin

Remigius

Mar 29, 5:27pm

Demin was a better PG at 18 than Hall was at 18 and will be a better PG at 20

oxcoug

Mar 29, 5:48pm

This is true

johnnybyu

Mar 29, 8:30pm

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