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Mar 26, 2025
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Toolson in the portal

Mostlyaccurate

Mar 26, 2:33pm

Why do we keep doing this?

C-dubb

Mar 26, 2:34pm

We never want a transfer from a lowly school like Ohio or North Dakota State

Charles Darwin

Mar 26, 2:38pm

As a news item it's fine but realistically, come on.

BigHouse Coug

Mar 26, 4:18pm

2 yrs to play 2, I believe. Not sure if KY will want him but he certainly fits at BYU, even rooms w/ Hall now.

Soupie

Mar 26, 2:34pm

I think we can afford someone better.

2FarGone

Mar 26, 2:35pm

Utahns will disagree. Gotta have the Utah element dominate the program

Archaea

Mar 26, 2:38pm

Like Belle, they should want much more than their provincial life.

2FarGone

Mar 26, 2:39pm

Um he is from Washington

BYU Grounds

Mar 26, 3:29pm

Went to HS in Wash but family lived in Utah before that and moved back here a few yrs ago.

Soupie

Mar 26, 3:33pm

He was born and raised in Washington State.

ATX

Mar 26, 4:16pm

Archea wants us to be Rutgers

johnnybyu

Mar 26, 4:19pm

I think we should get Toolson, Whalin, Welling, Van Komen and maybe round out the roster with one of the Snow players if

mokelembembe

Mar 26, 4:50pm

lol us Utahns do NOT agree. Get the best guys we can get that fit the program

titlecoug

Mar 26, 5:02pm

Good for you for being an outlier.

Archaea

Mar 26, 5:39pm

He makes a perfect fit. We don't need all the shiny toys. Causes locker room

Chefcurry

Mar 26, 2:41pm

I’ve been a huge advocate of raising our sights for the transfer portal.

ldssdl

Mar 26, 3:48pm

People ignore that we have a backbone of LDS players.

Archaea

Mar 26, 5:42pm

Burgess is going on a mission, and Saunders/Hall/Baker all graduate next year.

ldssdl

Mar 26, 6:17pm

Felesi and Goolsby ring a bell?

Archaea

Mar 26, 8:18pm

No. Are these high school recruits? Or proven college players in the portal?

ldssdl

Mar 26, 9:07pm

That is a big assumption. We might lose 2 or 0 or 5. TBD. Enjoy the Sweet 16

Cougarbib

Mar 26, 10:27pm

Haven't watched Falslev but 1st team all defensive team and avg 15 ppg is

puntersarepeople

Mar 26, 6:39pm

"against the top schools"? The MWC is a league of top schools? Since when?

Archaea

Mar 26, 8:17pm

One of the best players in the MWC can be a difference maker against the best in

puntersarepeople

Mar 26, 8:29pm

When I saw him against UNM both times, he was less than impressive

Archaea

Mar 26, 8:39pm

it seems like you're mixing up two players here: Falslev who never played for

cwilke1

Mar 26, 8:43pm

You gotta remember that Archaea doesn’t know ball.

shimmy

Mar 26, 10:48pm

Well he’s a 40% three point shooter, tough defender, and was the best player on

puntersarepeople

Mar 26, 8:47pm

take your hate blinders off dude, big 12 player of the year Toppin is an

cwilke1

Mar 26, 8:41pm

John Tonje was a pretty good player as well.

shimmy

Mar 26, 10:50pm

Baller. He would fill the Knell role

Blueto

Mar 26, 2:37pm

Yep, perfect replacement. He looked impressive when I watched him play this

Chefcurry

Mar 26, 2:38pm

Knell is a key contributor to a sweet 16 run. Show a little respect. Knell

Cougarbib

Mar 26, 4:56pm

He can’t shoot like Knell, his 3 point% is significantly lower

califcougar

Mar 26, 8:17pm

He doesn't shoot well enough to fill the Knell role

tacallaway

Mar 26, 2:41pm

We're probably not getting a 44% volume 3 point shooter in the portal

Jesse Pinkman

Mar 26, 2:47pm

Sure, maybe. But we can probably do a lot better than 35%.

tacallaway

Mar 26, 2:48pm

I mean, Mag went from 25% to 39% in one year in KY’s offense. Everyone’s 3P% is

Odysseus

Mar 26, 2:55pm

If Mag is an indication of what KY can do for players, we are in for a fun ride

LifeLongLakerFan

Mar 26, 2:58pm

Fair point, but I think that success is a combination of two factors

tacallaway

Mar 26, 3:43pm

And Knell - the shot doctor - is the reason why. He has had multiple teammates

Cougarbib

Mar 26, 4:59pm

Knell was 38% last year & 36% year before that. Baker is 38% this year. Hall is 36%.

Soupie

Mar 26, 2:55pm

Was 30% as a Frosh. Also 79% FTs last year vs 67% the year before. His is on a

LeGrandBleu

Mar 26, 3:27pm

He'd get more open looks at BYU. At UVU teams were all over him. We need floor

Blueto

Mar 26, 2:47pm

that's questionable. quality of defender from WAC up to Big 12 is a big

cwilke1

Mar 26, 2:52pm

He’s a much better athlete than Knell and is better at driving to the rim.

marinact

Mar 26, 3:09pm

He played a ton of minutes for them and drew a lot of attention. Hard to imagine him being a

Soupie

Mar 26, 3:22pm

I agree with that. I don’t think he’d start next year but I could see a scenario

marinact

Mar 26, 3:27pm

Keeping in mind we have 2 4 star recruits highly sought after that basically did

Cougarbib

Mar 26, 5:06pm

It said Tool played for BYU then UVU. Why wasn’t he good enough to stick but

Cougarbib

Mar 26, 5:04pm

He got injured as a Freshman so he didn’t get a chance to play much because he

marinact

Mar 26, 5:18pm

iOW - missed opportunity due to impatience or lack of confidence to compete with

Cougarbib

Mar 26, 5:36pm

He got a lot of playing time at UVU that he needed to close the gap

puntersarepeople

Mar 26, 5:53pm

We have another Toolson that did the same thing and was a stud for us

johnnybyu

Mar 26, 8:52pm

Part of Knell's success owes to the guards passing him the ball

Threw and Through

Mar 26, 6:40pm

Having Demin and Hall to play with is great as a spot up shooter

puntersarepeople

Mar 26, 6:43pm

Knell's actually filling the Koz role. 6'5 Power Forwards ain't ideal

SinkingQuffa

Mar 26, 4:49pm

If Baker left he could slide into a similar role very easily

puntersarepeople

Mar 26, 5:54pm

He could. I think KY'd rather have a legit fast scoring guard, though.

SinkingQuffa

Mar 26, 6:07pm

If Baker leaves they need to bring in more than one guard and they can do both

puntersarepeople

Mar 26, 8:35pm

For sure. I'm assuming Wahlin's mismatch value's gonna be hard to pass up.

SinkingQuffa

Mar 26, 8:57pm

Can he defend as well as Knell?

Mitty

Mar 26, 6:54pm

RE: Toolson in the portal

ballen

Mar 26, 2:37pm

If hes the best we can do, for sure

Rhubarb

Mar 26, 2:44pm

I'd definitely use him to upgrade end of the bench. If he earns playing time

ATX

Mar 26, 4:13pm

I would rather try and retain the rumored players that want to transfer

arizonacougarfan

Mar 26, 4:19pm

UVU player with 13 p, 3 r, 1.6 a seems a very low bar compared to players found

NYC and Japan

Mar 26, 4:36pm

Maybe He's Looking at the U

CougScore

Mar 26, 4:45pm

If a dude is a double digit scorer at the D1 level, he can likely contribute

Thrill

Mar 26, 5:02pm

He's like Baker but not as good imo. We need a 3 & D athlete with length ie Mag

pinolero

Mar 26, 5:21pm

If we get tookson that doesn't mean there isn't room to get a 3 and D guy

ATX

Mar 26, 5:31pm

Better to diversify your skill sets. Definitely need a post and an athletic wing

pinolero

Mar 26, 5:34pm

Crawford?

Cougarbib

Mar 26, 5:37pm

There is room for 15 total players

ATX

Mar 26, 5:38pm

Room for 10 maybe 11 to play. Plus you like WNBA so you're lost

pinolero

Mar 26, 6:14pm

You are funny, like seriously funny.

ATX

Mar 26, 6:40pm

Toolson will come and fill MacGregors end of the bench role? No way.

pinolero

Mar 26, 8:59pm

I'm just saying he’s an upgrade to the roster and there is room for him if he

ATX

Mar 26, 9:12pm

Toolson would fill a baker/knell role and knows that’s what he’d be

1984coug

Mar 26, 5:27pm

If Crawford and Baker left and we needed to bring in a couple of guards he'd be

puntersarepeople

Mar 26, 5:55pm

I think* he understands that and would be willing to come seeing what KY has

1984coug

Mar 26, 9:35pm

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arizonacougarfan

Mar 26, 6:22pm

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