Iowa State not just 0-2 against BYU

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Mar 13, 2025
8:59:41pm

BondWeaver Starter

Iowa State not just 0-2 against BYU

But they finish behind BYU in conference play and conference tournament play. Both have almost identical overall records. Makes no sense they get a higher seed in the dance just based on those facts alone. They beat Dayton and Marquette in preseason. Good wins but not earth shattering.

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The Iowa State love fest in the projections is fascinating, even if

Mar 13, 3:47pm

On a 9 game winning streak and have won our last 5 quad 1 games and still no

Chefcurry

Mar 13, 3:48pm

Weird, I thought college basketball season was more than 9 games!

Mar 13, 3:49pm

We also won 15 games before the 9 game win streak and were considered a bubble

Cosmodiar

Mar 13, 3:51pm

I’m fully aware. So did Iowa State. That’s why it’s weird to bring up the last 9

Mar 13, 4:01pm

Committee should care about how a team is performing now. Example: FB.

Cougarbib

Mar 13, 11:09pm

They do care. That’s why a month ago we were projected as an 11 seed (if we got

Mar 13, 11:16pm

We likely are ranked Top 15 now and should be Top 10 based on how we would play

Cougarbib

Mar 13, 11:22pm

I know. Who cares about how well a team is playing in March.

slatecoug

12:28am

Well, you'd have to read the OP as well. I know it's a big ask

Goliath

Mar 13, 3:57pm

Ah, so you think a team’s overall record is all you need to compare two team’s r

Mar 13, 4:02pm

Similar schedule, similar record, 2-0 for the team ranked way lower?

Mar 13, 4:22pm

Not similar schedules.

Mar 13, 4:26pm

Again, similar schedules… the metric is programmed incorrectly.

Mar 13, 4:35pm

Iowa State’s schedule is thirty spots higher than BYU’s. What do you think

Mar 13, 4:40pm

I believe the metric judging the schedules is flawed. Needs revamped to be more

Mar 13, 5:33pm

You don’t change metrics just because they don’t fit your narrative.

Mar 13, 5:44pm

Nope, just when they kick out improper data. Such as having teams with inferior

Mar 13, 6:05pm

Who should be ranked higher, BYU or Drake?

Mar 13, 6:12pm

RE: Who should be ranked higher, BYU or Drake?

Mar 13, 7:20pm

Now do Texas Tech

BYUFootballisBack

Mar 13, 5:10pm

Kenpom: BYU 23 TT 7 BPI: BYU 24 TT 8 T-Rank: BYU 10 TT 7 KPI: BYU 32 TT 19 SOR: BYU 20 TT 9

TCuz

Mar 13, 5:21pm

Strength of schedule ooc and in conference basically identical, and have

BYUFootballisBack

Mar 13, 6:02pm

Does head to head not figure into it?

thirdgencoug

Mar 13, 5:54pm

It does play into it, for sure. But it’s not the end all, be all like everyone

Mar 13, 10:55pm

NOBODY HAS SAID WE SHOULD BE A 3 SEED BECAUSE WE BEAT ISU.

thirdgencoug

Mar 13, 11:17pm

You were wrong. When you win the games is also important (or should be).

Benfica1

Mar 13, 10:16pm

Yeah, it definitely plays a part. But you don’t just go from on the wrong side

Mar 13, 10:59pm

Yep, BYU is winning at the right time.

Benfica1

10:07am

Bring it on! Best external motivator money can buy! And it costs nothing!

jaba166

2:42am

ISU is #10 in KenPom and BYU is #23. And that's after the game today.

RGGeemer

Mar 13, 3:49pm

Last season we couldn't keep from great ratings. This year really hard to come

EM_Puma

Mar 13, 3:50pm

The thing is November, December, and January matter in the metrics.

RGGeemer

Mar 13, 3:51pm

And it appears February and March do not.

Mar 13, 3:52pm

Sure they do. We have increased from a bubble team (~11-12 seed) to a 5-6 seed.

RGGeemer

Mar 13, 3:54pm

And I think if we beat Houston, we'll end up with a 4 regardless of the final

RGGeemer

Mar 13, 3:56pm

And last season our pre season schedule and results were much better

pink22

Mar 13, 3:52pm

And our conference play was worse. I guess being in the Big 12 must be

Mar 13, 4:13pm

Our preseason schedule was really bad last year

BYU '80

Mar 13, 8:29pm

It is interesting, but I can understand why head to head results in basketball

NOCAL_YFAN

Mar 13, 3:50pm

ISU is a very good team. I wouldn't be mad if they were a 3 seed. Great resume wins for BYU

RSL

Mar 13, 3:50pm

It makes me sad how many BYU fans are asking this same question

Mar 13, 3:50pm

It’s as if nobody is listening to the answers given.

pink22

Mar 13, 3:51pm

It makes me sad that you thought the OP was a question

Goliath

Mar 13, 3:58pm

It’s like it may have been programmed wrong on how to evaluate teams.

Mar 13, 4:09pm

2 games vs a season of 32/33 games. Analytics pay attention to all games, not some small subset of them

Indy Coug

Mar 13, 3:51pm

Teams headed in different directions. Injuries have hurt them. I don't really

Mar 13, 3:53pm

Almost like the entire season is evaluated and not viewed in a 2 game vacuum.

Mr. Scoobs

Mar 13, 3:53pm

They've been good for many years

TarCoug

Mar 13, 3:54pm

Media talking points? ISU with two starters out is something committee considers

bluebrotha

Mar 13, 3:57pm

The ISU injuries are impossible to ignore.

jimmything

Mar 13, 7:20pm

To put ISU ahead of us is to say "conf play and second half of season don't

Mitty

Mar 13, 4:08pm

Agreed. KenPom is programmed faulty if it’s kicking out these results.

Mar 13, 4:11pm

I love our team. It’s fascinating what they did, but I St missing their two best

44C

4:06am

And those two BYU wins are on the road and on a neutral court

Brandoblueblood

Mar 13, 5:15pm

Iowa State not just 0-2 against BYU

BondWeaver

Mar 13, 8:59pm

No way in hades we’re a 7-seed now.

andrewg3

Mar 13, 11:04pm

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