I do not feel like we're killing it. And we both work a lot. If we didn't have support from our family to watch our little boy during the week, we'd be screwed. Childcare is costly. That's why I ask when I see average salaries in Utah. I don't get how people in their late 20s will make it. My wife and I were also blessed to be able to live in a family members basement the past two years to save up. Not everyone has that luxury. I'll admit we built a pretty decent home, but sheesh even some of the absolute crap hole homes are selling in the high 400’s. Its bleak out there. Is the American dream dead?