they make good products. I will own a Tesla in the next 5-10 years when they redesign them most likely. But he doesn't need to lie. And yes, it's lies. Not only are the timelines WAY off (and getting worse honestly), the actual results are getting further off from the initial unveiling. No other big company does that. Nvidia doesn't regularly show vaporware or miss most of it's targets by multiple years. And the reason it doesn't qualify as a prototype is because it can't self drive on the roads they are promising even sometimes, it's a concept vehicle, those two things are very different.