Competition is specifically factored in to PFF. That's why Rising was not rated

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Sep 18, 2024
8:44:49pm

Socrates Johnson All-American

that well after week one. So no. Wrong again.

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Socrates Johnson

Previous username: jkccoug
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Joined: Jul 19, 2002
Last login: Sep 19, 2024
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Time

NFL QB Gif Nielsen says those hand-wringing over Retzlaff "need to take a

jaba166

Sep 17, 11:39pm

He’s wrong- he’s just being supportive as a former great. I doubt

SBB

Sep 18, 4:29am

He's watched all the games and that was his opinion. By his own words

Zip

Sep 18, 5:28am

I believe that. I also believe that’s not what he really thinks. He’s being

SBB

Sep 18, 5:34am

If he didn’t like JR he’d just keep his mouth shut. He wouldn’t endorse

CougarEat

Sep 18, 5:56am

I disagree

SBB

Sep 18, 6:07am

RE: I disagree

Doogal McCougar

Sep 18, 8:19am

Well, by his own mouth he declared opposite what you think

Zip

Sep 18, 6:12am

What do you want these guys to say when they're asked

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 7:35am

You think he didn’t expect that question before going to a Y’s Guys interview?

CougarEat

Sep 18, 8:25am

You think Giff would dodge an interview because of one question

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 9:16am

All I’m saying is if he didn’t believe in JR he certainly could have chosen to

CougarEat

Sep 18, 10:49am

Take a nervous pill doesnt sound like a shot

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 11:02am

So you're saying there's a chance....Giff Nielsen is telling a lie?? I don't

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:01pm

Ironic take seeing as many on CB

ALC

Sep 18, 10:03am

Why is it ironic?

SBB

Sep 18, 10:14am

Because you are questioning his perspective and assuming

ALC

Sep 18, 12:12pm

Not ironic or contrary to what was expected or intended

SBB

Sep 18, 12:37pm

pff agrees with him. So do the coaches. What would convince people?

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 11:52am

I would be saying the same thing as the coaches

SBB

Sep 18, 12:07pm

Why is pff lying for him? what's the conspiracy?

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 1:22pm

PFF said Retzlaff wasn't a college QB last year. What was the conspiracy then?

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 1:56pm

What if they rated him properly for how he played then and properly for how he

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 6:37pm

He is much better against awful competition than he has been against good(gasp)

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 8:16pm

Competition is specifically factored in to PFF. That's why Rising was not rated

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 8:44pm

PFF is based on an analyst grading your performance on each play

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 9:20pm

I am aware. Are you aware that they adjust it based on how hard it was for you

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 9:47pm

Very aware actually but its not stat driven or weighted the way you are thinking

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 10:10pm

Cam didn't check anything down. You didn't watch the game and are now indulging

Socrates Johnson

10:33am

I wouldn’t call it a lie. I’d call it what I did. Being a team player

SBB

Sep 18, 1:57pm

PFF is being a team player for BYU? PFF is protecting JR from BYU's fanbase now?

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 6:39pm

You got it! The conspiracy runs very deep!

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:06pm

RE: You got it! The conspiracy runs very deep!

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 8:15pm

And there it is....but SBB (and many others) doesn't care. There just has to be

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:04pm

What do you "absolutely love" about Bohanon?

2FarGone

Sep 18, 8:04am

Let's see....hmm. His selflessness, his leadership, his experience as a B12

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:14pm

The hard part for many fans is that Retzlaff hasn't shown enough yet this year

Doogal McCougar

Sep 18, 8:17am

I was asking for GB. After Wyoming and the stats, if we win or JR has a good

Powerbait DPM

Sep 18, 8:59am

Too late! True fans are already onboard since he arrived at BYU, as they are

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:18pm

This is 100% accurate

TheWookie

Sep 18, 8:28am

I hope Kalani got the message. Because he's seemed pretty concerned

Goliath

Sep 18, 8:44am

PFF seems far more positive about JR than most cb'ers, press and odds guys

eyes4byu

Sep 18, 8:57am

RE: PFF seems far more positive about JR than most cb'ers, press and odds guys

XoCougs

Sep 18, 9:19am

PFF absoutely destroyed Jake last year. Before you rely too much on PFF

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 9:21am

But they repented! Have you?

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:20pm

Come on.. Giff played as a backup before most of us were born. He played college before the forward pass was big.

AltTabbins

Sep 18, 8:54am

It's just fun to have a "big game." As Giff said, just win, baby, especially

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:24pm

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