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Jul 9, 2024
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byubyu
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Haha keep making up arguments to cover your ridiculously wrong statement.
Now you're claiming people are saying last year's defense was good enough?
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You know, it’s one thing to criticize citing 109th in total defense if you’re haggling over if it’s better/worse than
Indy Coug
Loquacious Lummox
Jul 9, 9:57am
LOL at anyone that looks at yards per game for anything of value. Per drive
rcbyufan
Jul 9, 10:00am
Does yards per drive in 2023 push BYU into an entirely different category
Indy Coug
Jul 9, 10:04am
Yes it does. You should look at Defensive FEI (which takes into account how good
rcbyufan
Jul 9, 10:24am
Many people choose to ignore that Tuiaki had a tactic of limiting possessions
Huge Manatee
Jul 9, 10:29am
Tuiaki’s strategy was to play passive and hope the offense made a mistake.
Frankfromtheballpark
Jul 9, 12:44pm
If you’re 119th in 3rd down defense, if you’re 113th in yds/run allowed
Indy Coug
Jul 9, 10:30am
I didn't say anywhere that last year's defense was good. Just that it was MUCH
rcbyufan
Jul 9, 10:34am
That's more damning of the Kalani/Lamb/Tuiaki regime than anything else
CameronG
Jul 9, 10:39am
Who is arguing that last year’s defense was good enough? We’ve only argued that
ldssdl
Jul 9, 11:21am
Haha keep making up arguments to cover your ridiculously wrong statement.
byubyu
Jul 9, 11:55am
And... our defense should be better this year compared to last year as per Jay
84 natlchamps
Jul 9, 1:25pm
I wouldn't say that our defense last year was above average however it was much better than the previous year. Also,
ManicBlue
Jul 9, 10:05am
And from the OP, that’s where analytics would have value in comparing BYU 2022 and 2023
Indy Coug
Jul 9, 10:08am
It'll be interesting to see what this year brings ... improvement, status quo, or decline.
ManicBlue
Jul 9, 10:09am
Improvement, as per Jay Hill. He seems pretty confident of that. A few
84 natlchamps
Jul 9, 1:31pm
I'm confident we'll see some improvement. I'd be happy with a defense ranked in the 40s by FEI and F+. Given that
ManicBlue
Jul 9, 1:37pm
2022 and 2023 weren't anywhere near each other. The difference is we had a top
rcbyufan
Jul 9, 10:31am
Again, I feel like you’re deliberately ignoring the main point of the OP
Indy Coug
Jul 9, 10:33am
What is your point?
kotacoug
Jul 9, 10:44am
He won't say because he got owned below.
byubyu
Jul 9, 11:51am
You said: "I have yet to see any valid example of where a team who is 109th or
rcbyufan
Jul 9, 10:55am
And Indy disappears.....lol.
byubyu
Jul 9, 11:51am
Our defense stats outcome had more to do with with who was playing and not the overall coaching
Coug
Jul 9, 10:20am
I don't know if this is common knowledge but since I have a tie to Weber State
CameronG
Jul 9, 10:44am
I mean that's been obvious
Coug
Jul 9, 11:13am
DFEI is really the only thing that really matters… what were those numbers?
kotacoug
Jul 9, 10:37am
From 2016 to 2023, DFEI ranks: 31, 69, 61, 68, 9, 85, 113, 54.
rcbyufan
Jul 9, 10:40am
100% - It baffles me how this board is so convinced Hill is the answer with so
Southpawn
Jul 9, 11:13am
Considering he took Weber State, a program that had done nothing and turned them
CameronG
Jul 9, 11:36am
There’s zero reason to write him off. However, there needs to be more positive results going forward
Indy Coug
Jul 9, 12:15pm
He wouldn't get poached off of last year,sure
stansburycoug
Jul 9, 12:45pm
Are you still doubling down on your bad Tuiaki take from a year ago by trying to say that Jay Hill wasn't an upgrade?
MHallDidNothingWr0ng
Jul 9, 11:24am
Indy held on to Crowton longer than Crowton even did himself
kotacoug
Jul 9, 2:25pm
So if being #54 in DFEI is "a spot that isn't very good", what would you call
byubyu
Jul 9, 12:01pm
Great point.
Atmospheric_Cougar
Jul 9, 4:58pm
Had no idea you were a tuiaki apologist. And I thought you were a stats guy.
Frankfromtheballpark
Jul 9, 12:49pm
You know, it's one thing to criticize a defense for being 109th total defense
here's to hoping
Jul 9, 6:52pm
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