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Jul 3, 2024
10:21:11am

Alan Schaefer Redshirt Freshman

Uh. No…. Of course not. Not sure how that conclusion entered into

your brain.

I’m saying it wasnt just “bad timing”. It happened because she choked, like tons of people and athletes do at the biggest moments. And that’s okay. Shes still an amazing athlete and person. But it’s NOT choking at the biggest moment that separates the goods from the greats.

But let’s be truthful and real about what happened.

I joke about her being the biggest hero of all time if she chokes again, and the media and her fans praise her as being “so brave”. But my sincere hope is that she kills it and wins the gold. I love redemption and overcoming weaknesses stories.

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For those touting Biles, who is remarkable,

Archaea

Jul 3, 9:31am

Didn’t Biles wet the bed at the last Olympics and let down the team and the

Magneto

Jul 3, 9:34am

No. She did not let anyone down.

Mister P

Jul 3, 9:36am

Call it what it is. She dropped out of the what, final round? That’s a let down.

Dr MoBYU

Jul 3, 9:40am

There is plenty of info out there on what happened to her at the last Olympics.

Jul 3, 10:29am

Go ahead and point out where I dump on her. And where I’m wrong.

Dr MoBYU

Jul 3, 1:04pm

You can respect her and recognize her amazing accomplishments but also recognize she did, in fact, let people down.

Tokolosh

Jul 3, 9:41am

And this Olympics is her redemption

Archaea

Jul 3, 9:45am

Huh?

Jul 3, 9:49am

I have zero issue with her having a panic or anxiety attack and her making

Alan Schaefer

Jul 3, 9:50am

I guess I liken it to an injury. She was well prepped and deserving, but

Mister P

Jul 3, 9:54am

You seriously think that it was all just a coincidence? Come on man.

Alan Schaefer

Jul 3, 9:58am

You thought she conspired to have a bad performance? For what?

Mister P

Jul 3, 10:05am

You think the pressure of the world’s biggest stage had nothing to do with the mental difficulties that arose? It was

mvtoro

Jul 3, 10:15am

Uh. No…. Of course not. Not sure how that conclusion entered into

Alan Schaefer

Jul 3, 10:21am

Not sure if we’ll ever know the “real” reason she quit on her team. The GOAT

Magneto

Jul 3, 10:15am

Flo-Jo should at least be mentioned too.

Courtimedes

Jul 3, 9:34am

Comparing Olympians is hard. Michael Phelps has more medals than

Mister P

Jul 3, 9:35am

But Phelps was great in fly, free and IM.

Archaea

Jul 3, 9:38am

Another example would be gymnastics.

Mister P

Jul 3, 9:40am

Yeah & the thing about gymnastics is that the window for excellence is so short

runnincoug

Jul 3, 9:47am

The window of excellence has been closed

Archaea

Jul 3, 9:49am

For gymnastics it's also about changing bodies. It's easier for 16 year olds

runnincoug

Jul 3, 10:30am

TNT: How many dominant women are you talking about? Where can one meet them?

Ted Lasso

Jul 3, 9:36am

RE: TNT: How many dominant women are you talking about? Where can one meet

Mister P

Jul 3, 9:38am

It's not recency bias. Biles has dominated a full sport for close to a decade. It's a sport that's

CSoul

Jul 3, 9:37am

JJK was a heptathlete and long jump specialist.

Archaea

Jul 3, 9:40am

I don't buy this. I'd wager there are many more people competitively swimming

Jul 3, 9:49am

Yeah I'm confused by that comment.

JuicyJam

Jul 3, 9:50am

Yes. Gymnastics is a sport for the elite

Archaea

Jul 3, 9:51am

Not in each individual event. Everyone does the same events in gymnastics. And popularity

CSoul

Jul 3, 9:57am

Are you talking about tv viewership as opposed to participation?

Archaea

Jul 3, 10:02am

It's both. I don't think this is hard to understand. All participation isn't created equal. Track and swimming and

CSoul

Jul 3, 10:12am

You are working too hard and wrong about swimmers.

Archaea

Jul 3, 10:22am

You are talking to Americans here so why are we switching to talk about global participation? Also my daughter is

CSoul

Jul 3, 10:25am

Starting good.

Archaea

Jul 3, 10:34am

Ok. In America there are way more children and adults in competitive swimming than gymnastics. There are 4x as many

mvtoro

Jul 3, 10:44am

Yet most of those swimmers would also say Biles vs Ledecky. Again, it's not looked at the same and

CSoul

Jul 3, 11:18am

I shouldn't have gotten into this argument. It's dumb and I don't really care. I like all the

CSoul

Jul 3, 11:28am

What data do you have that most start at 10-11?

Archaea

Jul 3, 11:32am

For most of our local clubs they don't have any competitive swimming until 8 at the earliest

CSoul

Jul 3, 11:37am

We probably took swimming too seriously too early because

Archaea

Jul 3, 2:26pm

No, I wasn’t a swimmer. Just saying the idea that there are “way more” gymnasts competing than swimmers isn’t remotely

mvtoro

Jul 3, 11:35am

I was touting the fact that she's 4'8" and jumped 12 ft in the air. I can't think of another human achieving that kind

Supercoug

Jul 3, 9:45am

She is very remarkable but there are other remarkable

Archaea

Jul 3, 9:47am

Agree, and watching Ledecky absolutely torch her competition is really fun, but I think people see somebody swimming,

RoaroftheCougartails

Jul 3, 10:03am

Possibly but as a former swimmer people are deluding themselves

Archaea

Jul 3, 10:05am

True, but not everybody is a former swimmer. I'll even say most former athletes or people who still work out would

RoaroftheCougartails

Jul 3, 10:14am

Well I did gymnastics as a youth and know I couldn’t

Archaea

Jul 3, 10:23am

Kinda. Those floors have springs. Still amazing but...

Mister P

Jul 3, 9:48am

On a trampoline, yes.

Longseason

Jul 3, 9:48am

She does seem to get noticeably higher, but how does that compare to the other

JuicyJam

Jul 3, 9:56am

It's this, not only does she dominate her sport, she is doing things that nobody else can do. Incredibly athletic things

RoaroftheCougartails

Jul 3, 10:01am

But more incredible than JJK, Shiffrin, Ledecky or Serena Williams?

Archaea

Jul 3, 10:03am

I am a huge Serena fan. GOAT in my book. But even watching her serve in her prime doesn't bring the same wow or flash

RoaroftheCougartails

Jul 3, 10:22am

Wilt then Jordan.

Archaea

Jul 3, 10:25am

I'd like to see how caitlyn jenner would fare against fellow modern women

Belboz

Jul 3, 10:29am

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