Pres Reese on today's "All In" podcast: "Not a single cent of tithing $$ goes to

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Jun 12, 2024
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Pres Reese on today's "All In" podcast: "Not a single cent of tithing $$ goes to

... our athletics program. That's just not how our athletics program is funded... Athletics are funded by the revenues they create and other donor funds"

"It's amazing to me what athletics can do to increase the visibility and help with some missionary efforts for the church."

Talked about the CougarTown Tailgates and partnering with the local schools/charities when visiting for football games...

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/all-in/id1439975046

Around the last 10-15 minute mark...

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Pres Reese on today's "All In" podcast: "Not a single cent of tithing $$ goes to

BamaCoug

Jun 12, 12:17pm

I disagree. Tell me where I’m wrong on this. I don’t think it’s a bad thing but not technically correct

RdF3

Jun 12, 12:22pm

It could be argued that it's just subsidizing students, because that's the case for all students, regardless of

jaromp

Jun 12, 12:26pm

But then student tuition is used to subsidize the athletic department

krindorr

Jun 12, 12:31pm

Do you have a source on this? I don't think it's true. BYU doesn't use tuition money to fund athletics

jaromp

Jun 12, 12:33pm

in 2019-2020, 14% of athletic revenue came from tuition

krindorr

Jun 12, 12:40pm

That is interesting, though I'm not sure where KSL got their numbers, I went and looked at the report and didn't

jaromp

Jun 12, 12:48pm

These figures were released by BYU

krindorr

Jun 12, 2:53pm

I'll take Pres. Reese's word on this. He knows the details and wouldn't be

Jasbo

Jun 12, 5:44pm

I don't think anyone is making the case that President Reese is lying.

PROBcoug

Jun 12, 6:43pm

I agree with the way you have stated it.

Jasbo

Jun 12, 10:59pm

It says 'tuition allocation'. I don't know what that means and I'll

CMuehle

Jun 12, 1:12pm

There's a few reasons that isn't the case

krindorr

Jun 12, 2:50pm

So where do the athlete stipends fit into your gripe?

Les IsMore

Jun 12, 6:13pm

I don't think I have a gripe

krindorr

Jun 12, 6:29pm

I get that tuition is subsidized, but tuition from students is not tithing money

ThundaDan

Jun 13, 6:11am

I agree with this

krindorr

Jun 13, 7:05am

The part I disagree with is that the church used tithing to lower the cost

ThundaDan

Jun 13, 10:46am

Church absolutely uses tithing to reduce tuition...which is OK

krindorr

Jun 13, 11:01am

Most years BYU Athletics returns Millions of $ to the BYU gen. scholarship fund

slatecoug

Jun 12, 4:10pm

Shocker Krindorr weighs in with the (wrong) negative way to view BYU. Again.

Brandoblueblood

Jun 12, 2:56pm

Are athletes not students?

ManicBlue

Jun 12, 12:26pm

Because the expenses of the athletic department would be significantly higher if tuition costs for athletics were not

RdF3

Jun 12, 12:28pm

But they are students.

mulletino

Jun 12, 12:30pm

Right, but it's not subsidizing "the athletic dept" it's subsidizing all BYU students

jaromp

Jun 12, 12:31pm

So BYU should discriminate specifically against student athletes? That’s your

puntersarepeople

Jun 12, 12:33pm

Not even close. My point is BYU’s AD expenses are lower because tuition is subsidized by tithing.

RdF3

Jun 12, 12:34pm

You are being dumb. Every school in the country has subsidized tuition

puntersarepeople

Jun 12, 12:42pm

So? Tuition is different for EVERY university. BYU's AD pays what the tuition is set at. It doesn't matter what the BOT

ManicBlue

Jun 12, 12:49pm

1- byu does charge every student an athletics fee. It’s reported right here. 2- you’re making my exact point. The AD

RdF3

Jun 12, 12:54pm

EVERY student gets charged an athletic fee? Really? smh

ManicBlue

Jun 12, 1:01pm

Still waiting on an answer how EVERY BYU student pays an athletics fee like ute students do.

ManicBlue

Jun 12, 1:41pm

What do you suppose athletics revenue of “14% tuition allocation” is?

RdF3

Jun 12, 1:46pm

You're hilarious without even trying to be.

ManicBlue

Jun 12, 2:10pm

Not sure why this is challenging for people

PROBcoug

Jun 12, 2:30pm

Agreed, I have no problem with it

krindorr

Jun 12, 3:42pm

I was a double major on a...

Les IsMore

Jun 12, 5:56pm

Typically cost of an athletically scholly is out of state tuition.. or non LDS

1984coug

Jun 12, 12:59pm

Not true. Many BYU athletes are LDS.

Les IsMore

Jun 12, 6:15pm

Not any more. You think Igor is worried about his education.

HenderCoug

Jun 12, 5:51pm

Why are you making unfounded assumptions?

Les IsMore

Jun 12, 5:59pm

One and dones are not coming to college for education.

HenderCoug

Jun 12, 6:48pm

You can make all sorts of loop holes of tithing paying for athletics.

Jun 12, 12:31pm

I agree. I’ll never complain about church tithing money going towards the church funded school. Plus a successful

RdF3

Jun 12, 12:33pm

Exactly. It’s impossible to avoid. The point being made is that the athletic dep

Jun 12, 12:48pm

How do you know that most of that land wasn't just stolen from the indigenous...

Les IsMore

Jun 12, 6:02pm

Tuition costs vary with membership status. If a tithe payer lower cost.

cdr88

Jun 12, 12:35pm

If a *member* then lowe cost.

Madam Pattirini

Jun 12, 12:52pm

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Gustav

Jun 12, 12:47pm

Scholarship tuition is awarded as “non member rates” when declaring the cost of

1984coug

Jun 12, 12:55pm

Are non-member rates not technically subsidized by tithing as well? (just not as much as member tuition)

PROBcoug

Jun 12, 3:25pm

Do you like looking for the mote?

bald man

Jun 12, 12:57pm

Based on what information?

rockyrd

Jun 12, 3:02pm

Don't make this harder than it should be.

Carnac

Jun 12, 3:39pm

This is the same type of argument as "gross vs net" for being a full tithe payer

morningcalmcougar

Jun 12, 3:53pm

I get what you’re saying but the question is - would it cost more for a non

truecougster

Jun 12, 6:25pm

Proof that idiots are on cougarboard.

theperkissystem

Jun 12, 8:39pm

If you are going to bring up tuition then consider this?

GMGlenn

Jun 13, 7:31am

No. It shouldn't cost the student more because he's an athlete--he's a student

Plantagenet

Jun 13, 9:41am

Does that include the scholarships for school?

Jun 12, 12:23pm

Yes, athletic scholarships are completely funded by the athletic dept

jaromp

Jun 12, 12:27pm

No question that the operating expenses allocated to tuition is lower for all

morningcalmcougar

Jun 12, 4:01pm

Would be real cool if tithing money funded athletics

DKN

Jun 12, 12:24pm

I'd pay 15%

Knee Brace

Jun 12, 12:24pm

You can do that now.

charles

Jun 12, 12:34pm

I didn't say I couldn't

Knee Brace

Jun 12, 12:36pm

Can't wait until we pull that lever. It will be glorious.

scootsy

Jun 12, 12:24pm

I think 100% of Ute tithing should go to BYU athletics.

Jun 12, 12:28pm

This. If they are going to tear down the work, they should pay more for it.

Longseason

Jun 12, 12:57pm

Tell Utah fans

Croweater

Jun 12, 12:33pm

That is a horrible policy!!!!!!!! Missionary work should equal INVESTMENT

DodgerCoug

Jun 12, 12:36pm

The problem is, some Aggies and Utes pay tithing. If the “not so converted” Aggies and Utes knew their tithes were

mulletino

Jun 12, 1:51pm

Too bad we can't opt out of the taxes that subsidize their programs

Brandoblueblood

Jun 12, 4:36pm

that's okay, we can still have fun getting yewt fans riled up by propping up...

icecougar

Jun 12, 12:37pm

Of course! That's a different matter altogether 😂

jaromp

Jun 12, 12:41pm

So far it’s the dairy yewts who are riled up

puntersarepeople

Jun 12, 12:43pm

I’m not riled up at all. I understand this fact and don’t care. Others seem riled up by me pointing it out.

RdF3

Jun 12, 12:45pm

You are being intentionally obtuse when you reply to everyone

puntersarepeople

Jun 12, 12:55pm

That is the podcast where Covey said he expected his kids to go to BYU

Longseason

Jun 12, 12:58pm

Don't tell this to ALUF's. Some of them deeply want to believe tithing is used

BlooCoug

Jun 12, 1:03pm

Such a shame. I tell all my Ute friends that I put a special code on my tithing

SnickSnack

Jun 12, 1:28pm

Oooooooooooooooo.......TNT likey

TNT

Jun 12, 1:52pm

Pretty clear what hes saying. In 2024 whatever the gross tithing fund is 0 of

EDthoracotomy

Jun 12, 1:52pm

Seems really weird to acknowledge how the athletics helps the missionary efforts

kotacoug

Jun 12, 1:59pm

yep, seems completely backwards to me but then I'm not a Ute or Aggie fan.

qwerew

Jun 12, 2:21pm

Only true if you pay tithing on NET

Croweater

Jun 12, 2:13pm

This is the way.

BringYourUltimate

Jun 12, 2:40pm

Only Utes and aggies care. My state tax funds your athletics. Cry somewhere else

fan32

Jun 12, 3:21pm

I'm assuming that does not include buildings, facilities and maintenance costs. By the way - that was a great interview

Zenoch

Jun 12, 3:25pm

We have always known this. Anyone who is surprised by it is a little off.

BlueZone

Jun 12, 4:57pm

I’m impressed at the number of experts on BYU finances exist in this board.

Boring

Jun 12, 6:28pm

We should use part of the yearly interest on the $180 Billion in EPA. Win 10 NCs

happyhiker

Jun 12, 11:17pm

It won't change their mind. People want it to be true.

Plantagenet

Jun 13, 9:43am

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