Last year in the Big 12 is a guidepost. First team out was Oklahoma with 19 wins. They were 19-16 and went 7-11 in conference. The other two teams left out were Kansas state (14-17 overall, 6-12 in conference) and West Virginia (16-17 overall and 4-14 in conference). I stand by my prediction that getting 15 wins next year will be an achievement. Getting 20 wins, which even in the Big 12 seems to be what you need to do to get off the bubble, would be a miracle, absent a huge infusion of talent in the offseason. I'm talking at least two players of the caliber of Haws/Toolson/Childs from our 2020 team.