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Nov 21, 2018
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1-Wing RCAF
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Most of Utah’s players were not that highly recruited/rated
Is it more player development/coaching under Whittingham than superior talent?
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Had a good chat with a Ute that I work with...
saltlakecoug1
11/21/18 9:28am
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Cougazul
11/21/18 9:30am
If he is healthy Corbin and Takitaki could be swapped over. Honestly those were
saltlakecoug1
11/21/18 9:33am
Those two would be backups at Utah.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 10:05am
Kaufusi would be in the rotation at DE and play a fair amount.
Scratch
11/21/18 10:12am
At the start of the year I think Corbin would have started across from Bradlee
BigT801
11/21/18 10:18am
Yep, probably agree re starting, but I imagine there would be 4 guys rotating
Scratch
11/21/18 10:22am
Kaufusi is wayyy better than mike tafua
BountifulCoug5
11/21/18 11:42am
I agree with that, Tafua is at the bottom of these 4 guys, which is why Tupai
Scratch
11/21/18 11:51am
Takitaki would be their best LB
BYURider
11/21/18 10:23am
Over Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year Chase Hansen...No!
Gathers
11/21/18 10:30am
Not a chance in Hades.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 10:37am
you guys listen to hans olsen and the slc media too much.
BYURider
11/21/18 10:58am
Well, Hansen is starting over Bernard...
reddead
11/21/18 11:22am
I think Takitaki would start for them
BYURider
11/21/18 11:34am
Think that all you want, you're wrong.
displacedute
11/21/18 11:43am
OK coach....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 11:45am
RE: OK coach....
displacedute
11/21/18 11:47am
He also has 4 DL in front of him better than any DL that BYU has, which makes a
cougaman
11/21/18 5:59pm
Takitaki has played MLB for about half the season. Different systems also weigh
puntersarepeople
11/21/18 9:22pm
The New York Giants GM was at the Utah Oregon game a couple weeks ago
LifelongAP
11/21/18 9:35pm
I agree. Takitaki > Hansen
zerome4sooners
11/21/18 2:17pm
I don't know about that.
Byu_1988
11/21/18 12:22pm
Francis Bernard seems to be a good example
BYU Fan
11/21/18 9:30am
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Cougazul
11/21/18 9:31am
If Chase is 1a Cody Barton is 1b
BigT801
11/21/18 10:14am
Tough comparison though, he sat out last year (not practicing or working out
Martin Van Nostrand
11/21/18 9:33am
Bushman and holker would both be upgrades, maybe even hoge and empey. Kaufusi
Sandy Lyle
11/21/18 10:07am
No.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 10:10am
Hoge would probably start, but I haven't watched enough BYU O-Line play to say
Scratch
11/21/18 10:16am
Barton is great but takitaki is a lot faster and more athletic than Barton. If
Sandy Lyle
11/21/18 11:16am
Have you seen Barton play? He’s bigger, just as fast, and better in coverage.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 11:23am
Yes I have....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 11:25am
Takitaki is a great pass rusher. He’s not ANYWHERE near
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 11:29am
Like I said I watched both live twice this year....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 11:33am
I’m a BYU fan fella. A level headed one, who can celebrate
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 11:38am
No you aren't....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 11:46am
Yes, really, I am. I notice you did not address any
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 11:48am
Because I don't care to....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 11:59am
You are giving me so mich joy today. I be you are a terrific
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 12:04pm
I was....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 12:16pm
Again, thank you so very much. You are downright adorable.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 12:29pm
Of course I am...
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 12:37pm
Your son is a heck of a player and one of the best qb’s in Utah
Jdoc
11/21/18 12:48pm
He's ranked 3rd in the country in passing yards....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 1:08pm
He is a terrific player and fun to watch. I hope he does well at the next level
Jdoc
11/21/18 1:10pm
Wait, is he going to New Mexico St.?
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 12:42pm
Maybe....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 12:47pm
I know UNHuskerCoug. He was an all state basketball player
Jdoc
11/21/18 12:52pm
So that makes him an expert in football?
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 1:11pm
That wasn't your question. You asked what he had ever done. He has done quite a
Jdoc
11/21/18 1:15pm
He's the one acting as if he's the final authority on who's the "best" LB....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 1:21pm
Nobody is the final authority. It's all opinion and it really doesn't matter.
Jdoc
11/21/18 1:26pm
His was first....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 1:32pm
I understand your frustration. I don't think he is claiming he knows more about
Jdoc
11/21/18 1:38pm
So where did he play D1 sports?
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 1:16pm
He didn't. He had opportunities to play JUCO ball, but went on a mission a few
Jdoc
11/21/18 1:18pm
He also has a PHD. I am serious. Can you beat that?
Jdoc
11/21/18 12:59pm
I'm not a PHd...
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 1:13pm
Analytics, CoachSpeak, analytics! I kid.
Jdoc
11/21/18 1:15pm
If your analysis of how opposing teams treat the other team's best LB (double
Scratch
11/21/18 12:07pm
Because Hansen is an elite player....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 12:12pm
Just going off of what you said about interpreting stats.
Scratch
11/21/18 12:20pm
I am enjoying the ute fans telling us how not one single BYU player....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 12:19pm
Swell. I certainly never said that.
Scratch
11/21/18 12:23pm
If one exists, it ain’t Takitaki.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 12:31pm
RE: If one exists, it ain’t Takitaki.
Sandy Lyle
11/21/18 12:33pm
OK, so which position player for BYU is better than the same one at Utah?
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 12:38pm
I would expect Hoge to start. Kaufusi would play a lot, and possibly start,
Scratch
11/21/18 12:41pm
I've seen all of their games. Takitaki is faster, sheds blocks better, and
Sandy Lyle
11/21/18 12:11pm
Taki Taki is probably slightly more athletic, but Barton is one of the smartest,
Scratch
11/21/18 11:31am
Bernard and takitaki didn't play the same position then. Takitaki was a de
Sandy Lyle
11/21/18 12:13pm
I'd Takitaki over Barton.....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 11:21am
I agree 100% on Takitaki. He has "it"
BYURider
11/21/18 1:18pm
He also has the ability to play any LB position, from 4-3 MLB to 3-4 OLB.
cougaman
11/21/18 6:04pm
Utah has two freshman TE who have been fantastic this year
BigT801
11/21/18 10:16am
Bushman wouldn't start at Utah unless he learned how to block. Which he doesn't
wcj99
11/21/18 11:28am
Bernard will start next year.
cav73
11/21/18 11:07am
Played one year at BYU as LB. Was not star
Mot
11/21/18 10:10pm
better question is who on BAMA's roster would start at Utah. I can't think of
Bostonblue
11/21/18 10:21am
Nobody, apparantly their D-Line looks like the Monsters from SpaceJam
CougarTailDevourer
11/21/18 10:25am
RE: better question is who on BAMA's roster would start at Utah. I can't think
displacedute
11/21/18 11:53am
You're right, it is funny, BYU's O-Line is bigger
CougarTailDevourer
11/21/18 12:11pm
While that is probably true, I wonder if you could say the same for Utah and USC
lilpenny
11/21/18 10:24am
Utah State would cream Utah this year, yet Utah clearly has better recruiting cl
CougarTailDevourer
11/21/18 10:28am
Utah would beat Boise St so let’s see how USU plays this week. I think
Gathers
11/21/18 10:32am
Has Utah ever beaten Boise State?
Extra Biscuits
11/21/18 11:53am
Just in Tennis
CougarTailDevourer
11/21/18 12:16pm
Utah is 2-5 all time vs Boise, BYU is 2-7.
cav73
11/21/18 1:01pm
When were those two wins? Back before Boise was any good?
Extra Biscuits
11/21/18 4:53pm
I found one of your wins: 20-17 Utes in 1985 when BSU was not D1
Extra Biscuits
11/21/18 4:58pm
Looks like the Utes lost to BSU (non-D1) in 1980, 7-28
Extra Biscuits
11/21/18 4:59pm
Looks like you smashed them again 31-27 in 1987 when they were still non-D1
Extra Biscuits
11/21/18 5:03pm
Up in the night.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 10:38am
The same Utah St that was 2 inches from losing to 3-8 CSU?
cav73
11/21/18 11:09am
And lost to a below average Spartans.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 11:12am
and almost lost to Wyoming
BYURider
11/21/18 11:20am
And the same Utah that was one play away from losing to NIU?
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 11:22am
We are talking about Utah St. Not Utah. Try to keep up.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 11:24am
we're talking about both ute....
CoachSpeak
11/21/18 11:34am
There you go again. You are so cute.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 11:56am
Utah beat NIU 17-6, not sure how that's one play from losing...
cav73
11/21/18 11:30am
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CougarTailDevourer
11/21/18 12:20pm
FCS?
Scratch
11/21/18 12:29pm
My bad, I thought they were FCS
CougarTailDevourer
11/21/18 12:36pm
You mean the team BYU lost to at home???
BigT801
11/21/18 12:51pm
Uh, you know BYU lost to NIU, right? At home too.
cav73
11/21/18 12:58pm
Yep, and it was a really close game for the Utes
CougarTailDevourer
11/21/18 1:03pm
Haha. "Other than the Pick 6."
lilpenny
11/21/18 1:05pm
With how much chest thumping the Utes are doing I would have expected more
CougarTailDevourer
11/21/18 1:15pm
Utah st. would not cream Utah. Silly to even say that.
lilpenny
11/21/18 1:04pm
I think it's different comparing active players as opposed to recruits.
displacedute
11/21/18 11:55am
I haven't watched Shelly play at all, does he look better than Wilson?
BYUFootballisBack
11/21/18 10:39am
Yes.
UNHuskerCoug
11/21/18 10:43am
Wow, you're adamant, passionate and 100% consistent in this thread! smh
ColoSpgs
11/21/18 5:01pm
He’s yet to hurdle anyone...
BigT801
11/21/18 10:45am
He looks really composed. You can tell he played serious football in Texas.
Gathers
11/21/18 10:46am
Will make it all the more special when we beat them
Agaricus
11/21/18 11:44am
Kyle Gunther has been saying for years that you can count on one hand the number
Extra Biscuits
11/21/18 11:50am
If that were true
Tuskaloosa Cougar
11/21/18 12:30pm
Most of Utah’s players were not that highly recruited/rated
1-Wing RCAF
11/21/18 12:48pm
Over the last 4 years, Utah's recruiting classes have been ranked 33, 33, 37,
Scratch
11/21/18 1:14pm
Yeah, it's a huge advantage. We'll be lucky to win a couple in a 20 year span.
IronPotato
11/21/18 12:59pm
Utah started to recruit better before their move to the PAC.
JmThms
11/21/18 3:09pm
Interesting thread. So after reading this I need to believe takitaki is not as
Mot
11/21/18 7:15pm
How's that a good chat?
Y05
11/21/18 8:13pm
They wish they had Troy Warner as their starting safety. It’s
Gerald-DeGroot
11/22/18 12:25am
RE: They wish they had Troy Warner as their starting safety. It’s
displacedute
11/22/18 2:27pm
Posts like this are stupid
UberDeek
11/22/18 10:28am
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